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03-10-2013, 03:56 AM
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03-10-2013, 06:30 AM
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First serious post: Jason Botterill. 4 seasons as Ass't GM in Pittsburgh, been rumored for a full time job for a while, has a background in cap managment.

Oh, and he was a former Sabre.

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03-10-2013, 07:03 AM
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Julien Brisebois, Jason Botterill, Laurence Gilman, or Ron Hextall.

I question if Brisebois is just one of those types that only knows how to win a Calder Cup, but I liked his work with Norfolk last year, as it was hopefully a new age Cup winner (actually filled with players worth a damn).
Botterill is apparently an encyclopedia (knows the CBA in and out) and is part of one of the best franchises in the league.
Gilman is one of the best at managing the cap even though he's part of one of the richest organizations (key here because we've thrown too much stupid money around) and is way into advanced stats. His amateur scouting record does make me pause a bit, though.
Hextall comes from an organization that is deep through and through that has had some fantastic prospect development in the past few years (seemingly an endless pipeline).

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03-10-2013, 07:45 AM
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And keep Darcy Regier as the GM.

Darcy's a damn fine GM, he's just not a good Architect.

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And keep Darcy Regier as the GM.

Darcy's a damn fine GM, he's just not a good Architect.
Then he isnt a good GM

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03-10-2013, 08:07 AM
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03-10-2013, 09:20 AM
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Gorton, Botterill, Nill, Hextall.

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03-10-2013, 09:30 AM
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We had this thread about 2 weeks ago:
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1360069

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03-10-2013, 10:51 AM
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We had this thread about 2 weeks ago:
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1360069
This, although the top candidates are Nill, Botterill, Hextall, and Burke

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03-10-2013, 11:50 AM
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03-10-2013, 12:54 PM
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Nill or Gillman.

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03-10-2013, 01:42 PM
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Definitely Botterill. This franchise would be in great hands at every level. I wouldn't even mind Pierre McGuire.

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I'd want Jame as Director of Hockey Operations with either Layne Stanley or Stokes84 as GM with the addendum that all meetings have to be recorded for posterity as they would make some must see entertainment.

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Botterill for GM. Could we keep darcy around for scouting/drafting help though? Not sure if it's him or the actual scouting department, but I like most of the guys he's been taking lately

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Someone who can evaluate talent and not just rely on advanced statistics, the teams that rely on advanced stats are often in the bottom half of the league.

A guy with a background is scouting would be nice


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Someone who can evaluate talent and not just rely on advanced statistics, the teams that rely on advanced stats are often in the bottom half of the league.

A guy with a background is scouting would be nice
Got a source to verify this baseless assertion?

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Someone who can evaluate talent and not just rely on advanced statistics, the teams that rely on advanced stats are often in the bottom half of the league.

A guy with a background is scouting would be nice
To pile on to the rebuttal above...
Any "background" in scouting, or, would you like him to have been successful at it?

To the OP:
Luce? Hell no.
Dudley? I believe he is employed. Also pass. I like the guy, want someone younger.

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Got a source to verify this baseless assertion?
We as an organization have relied upon statistics as much as any team in the NHL, how has that worked out? Stats are great to support an argument or decision but their is nothing like someone who can identify talent and put a team together.

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To pile on to the rebuttal above...
Any "background" in scouting, or, would you like him to have been successful at it?

To the OP:
Luce? Hell no.
Dudley? I believe he is employed. Also pass. I like the guy, want someone younger.
It's quite obvious that I would want someone who has been successful

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03-10-2013, 03:03 PM
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We as an organization have relied upon statistics as much as any team in the NHL, how has that worked out? Stats are great to support an argument or decision but their is nothing like someone who can identify talent and put a team together.
Got a source for that? You don't, you're just making baseless assertions so that your argument can be valid. Apparently you have a looking glass into every team's decision-making processes, and you're able to quantify how much the Sabres rely on advanced stats vis-a-vis other organizations.

In other words, you're making **** up.

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03-10-2013, 03:09 PM
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To be clear, I want a GM who can marry talent evaluation and advanced statistics. Those opposed to advanced statistics cling to the contrived viewpoint that those who use advanced metrics want to eradicate talent evaluation and rely solely on computers. This argument is a strawman.

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Got a source for that? You don't, you're just making baseless assertions so that your argument can be valid. Apparently you have a looking glass into every team's decision-making processes, and you're able to quantify how much the Sabres rely on advanced stats vis-a-vis other organizations.

In other words, you're making **** up.
not the article I was looking for, I have heard Darcy Regier say himself that he uses statistics as much as anyone, Friedman or LeBrun mention that Buffalo was the first team to use Video Scouting and Advanced Statistics and and heavily into advance statistics. Their are some very successful GM who won't bother with them at all.

I am not saying I am against Advance Stats, what I am saying is that I want a guy who has a real eye for talent, I don't think DR is great as assessing talent.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...article619847/

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03-10-2013, 03:45 PM
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Definitely Botterill. This franchise would be in great hands at every level. I wouldn't even mind Pierre McGuire.
Shut your whole mouth!

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