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07-27-2006, 12:24 AM
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The 1997 draft was one of the best draft in the last 10 years...There was a large pool of quality player like Joe Thornton , Sergei Samsonov, Luongo, Olli Johkinen , Eric Brewer....

and look which player took Rejean Houle....Jason Ward!!!!

and you know which player the Ottawa Senators took right after us??? Marian Hossa!!!

i hate you Rejean!!
oooh , you can see into the well documented past , amazing , now , can you tell me what player'(s) you'll be moaning about the habs passing up this year so they could pick that useless d-man david fischer ? or can you only see into the distant past ?

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07-27-2006, 12:33 AM
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lol i hope you are sarcastic, Marian Hossa is the best 2 way player of the league
Brad Richards!

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This thread made me angry

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07-27-2006, 01:30 AM
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Brad Richards!
Brad Richard is a very good player and i would say that overall he s better than Hossa but Hossa is so good defensively, it amazing for a productive forward like him. He did miracles with Savard (crappy defensive player, Kovalchuk (awful defensive player) and a crappy defensive unit.

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my picks since i've followed the draft more closely via internet and games in 2001,

2001 1st pick : 1-Ruutu,2-Koivu,3-Hamhuis
2nd rd: 1- Roy,2- Paetsh,3- Milroy
2002 1st pick : 1-Semin,2-Anton Babchuk, 3- Alexander steen
2nd round: 1-Hudler, 2- Jarret Stoll, 3- Johnny Boychuk
2003 1st pick : 1-Michalek, 2- Kostitsyn, 3- Getzlaf/Parise (wanted them equally)
2nd round:`1- Pat O'sullivan BIG TIME, 2- Dan Fritsche, 3- Igor Mirnov
2004 1st pick: 1- Meszaros, 2- Radulov, 3- Mike Green//korpikoski
2nd round: no pick
2005 1st pick: 1-JJ, 2- Brule, 3- Kopitar (you should have seen my face when we drafted Price... then the latendresse pick made me smile)
2nd round: 1-LATENDRESSE , 2- Dan Bertram, 3- Dan Ryder
2006 1st pick : 1- Patrick Berglund, 2- Chris summers, 3- Claude Giroux
2nd pick: 1- Ryan White, 2- Michael Forney, 3- Ben Maxwell

Some might not beleive me , but if you could find my old post you'll find that I was real high on the guy afformentioned!
not a bad record , but I also like the habs record.
as for bergeron that's the steal of the 2003 draft, so kudos to bruins scouting staff(btw they are making a great job too)

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07-27-2006, 08:28 AM
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Again, you didn't read right...

I made that comment before they played in the NHL.
Wickenheiser wasn't exactly a slouch before he played in the NHL. He put up some very good numbers with the Pats IIRC.

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07-27-2006, 12:30 PM
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as for bergeron that's the steal of the 2003 draft, so kudos to bruins scouting staff(btw they are making a great job too)
Though even they never suspected. Being a great scout is sometimes a matter of winning the lottery a lot. Of course, you do have to be a good scout to pick good tickets - it's just not enough to make you win.

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07-27-2006, 12:50 PM
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I went back and drafted using hindsight and guess what I hit a home run on every player I picked man this is easy - I should be a GM now

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07-27-2006, 01:41 PM
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This has been beaten to death.

Let's remember 2 things:
(1) Every team has made mistakes in the first round of a draft. It is not easy to draft
(2) A draft is not just 1 round. There are plenty of gems uncovered in later rounds.

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07-27-2006, 02:15 PM
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I had heard, and maybe someone can confirm this, that the Ottawa Senators drafted a dead guy in their first draft. At least we haven't messed up that bad.

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07-27-2006, 02:20 PM
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I had heard, and maybe someone can confirm this, that the Ottawa Senators drafted a dead guy in their first draft. At least we haven't messed up that bad.
That was the Ottawa Rough Riders of the CFL, and yes its true.

Ottawa Senators screwed up their first draft when their laptop computer crashed and they had no backup. They were forced to draft from memory and not their prospect list.

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07-27-2006, 02:49 PM
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You know what,I problably would do much better then they did,
Arrogance???

It's part of the fabric of sports fandom to debate the moves by your own team, even to the point of suggesting "geez, if I was GM, I would have ..." ... but this kind of comment is entirely laughable ... not only arrogant, but extremely ignorant.

Talk is cheap!

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07-27-2006, 02:56 PM
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jason ward > eric brewer.
man, brewer fn sucks.
atleast ward plays his 3rd line checker role to a tee.
brewer can't even stick handle.

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07-27-2006, 02:57 PM
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Again hind-sight is great. The Habs were looking for a big 1st line center (hmm where have I heard that before) and the natural choice was Wickenheiser.

Had they picked Savard and he would have crumbled under the "must learn to play defence first" philosophy of the Canadiens as opposed to the free-wheeling he was allowed in Chicago, I wonder would the nay-sayers would be talking about today.
I remember very well the day Dougy was drafted. Living near Regina and being a Habs fan and all, I was elated ... but also naive. In hindsight, drafting Dougy was not a good mix ... consider the Habs were coming out of their late 70's domination ... a team with strong French-Canadian players ... then drafting a prairie boy over a highly touted French-Canadian boy ... the pressure on Wick in Montreal had to be tremendous ... not an enviable situation. The rest, they say, is history and whether Doug's career, and Denis' for that matter, would be significantly different had the draft went the other way is a subject we can only debate now.

BTW, I was at the Pat's game when they held a memorial service for Doug ... very emotional night ... the fans in Regina have always remembered Wick ... he was a great player for them.

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I remember very well the day Dougy was drafted. Living near Regina and being a Habs fan and all, I was elated ... but also naive. In hindsight, drafting Dougy was not a good mix ... consider the Habs were coming out of their late 70's domination ... a team with strong French-Canadian players ... then drafting a prairie boy over a highly touted French-Canadian boy ... the pressure on Wick in Montreal had to be tremendous ... not an enviable situation. The rest, they say, is history and whether Doug's career, and Denis' for that matter, would be significantly different had the draft went the other way is a subject we can only debate now.

BTW, I was at the Pat's game when they held a memorial service for Doug ... very emotional night ... the fans in Regina have always remembered Wick ... he was a great player for them.
We will never know.

With Mtl coming off those great years, it was going to be hell for whoever they drafted. Bowman and Pollock were gone. Grundman and company were in. The succession plan was not put in place and the Habs felt it.

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07-27-2006, 03:27 PM
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we have a great pool of prospects now, and that's what matters in the end.

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habs 1rst draft choice was always pathetic (since early's 80) since 2001 that look good so far

habs choice my pick

1980 wickheneiser savard

1981 mark hunter al mcinnis

1982 alain heroux tomas sandstrom

1983 alfie turcotte jeff beukeboom

1984 shayne corson gary roberts

1985 jose charbonneau joe nieuwendyk

1986 mark pederson teppo numinen

1987 andrew cassels andrew cassels

1988 eric charron tie domi

1989 lindsey vallis adam foote

1990 turner stevenson keith tkachuk

1991 brent bilodeau glen murray

1992 david wilkie grant marshall

1993 saku koivu todd bertuzzi

1994 brad brown rhett warrener

1995 terry ryan jerome iginla..

1996 matt higgins marco sturm

1997 jason ward marian hossa

1998 eric chouinard simon gagne

1999 alexander buturlin jordan leopold

2000 marcel hossa alexander frolov

end of the horror story!
I can't believe you would have taken Bertuzzi over Koivu

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He suffered that injury AFTER he was drafted.
Are you sure? I could have sworn it was before.

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nevermind Antropov, he had potential, what the h*** is a goon like Parker getting picked in the first round

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Who cares? Marian Hossa is a heartless european.
how many points did he had this year compare to ward ??

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how many points did he had this year compare to ward ??
my calculator just broken down

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I remember that draft. Hossa had a bad knee (I think) injury in junior and that scared a lot of people off. Of course it would have been great to of drafted him but we weren't the only team to pass on him.
didn't he wreck his knee after he got drafted?

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Poor Reggie...he wasn't the best GM in the world but one thing he did do was improve the Habs scouting department when Boudrias and Vadnais were let go. He improved the scouting in Europe, for example, which resulted in Andrei Markov among others. For that, he deserves credit. Jason Ward was considered a good pick and so was Eric Chouinard at the time. Burtulin was offered a contract and preferred to stay in Russia.

I remember the '95 draft in particular. The Habs were dead set on Shane Doan and I think they were pretty sure they were going to get him. The look on the faces at the Habs table when Winnipeg took him was eloquent. That being said, Ryan was considered an elite talent in Junior so, clearly, they went BPA.

Few realize that the Habs stunned everyone when they took Koivu. He stood 5'9" and scored 3 goals that year. Boudrias' justification for the selection was "He is feisty". (Il a du chien). Imagine if Timmins selected someone based on that criteria today. All of you would ask for his head on a platter.

Easy to criticize in hindsight.

Edit: 3 goals instead of 5...


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Few realize that the Habs stunned everyone when they took Koivu. He stood 5'9" and scored 5 goals that year. Boudrias' justification for the selection was "He is feisty". (Il a du chien). Imagine if Timmins selected someone based on that criteria today. All of you would ask for his head on a platter.

Easy to criticize in hindsight.
(Actually 3 goals, 7 assists in 46 games haha. )

That's actually very interesting...I didn't know that...

Imagine if they would have stayed local and drafted local boy Eric Lecompte (who was chosen 3 picks later). Can you imagine how we would have sucked in the late 90's.

(Although, i know things wouldn't have happened the same way. Some trades wouldn't have been made, etc.)

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I remember very well the day Dougy was drafted. Living near Regina and being a Habs fan and all, I was elated ... but also naive. In hindsight, drafting Dougy was not a good mix ... consider the Habs were coming out of their late 70's domination ... a team with strong French-Canadian players ... then drafting a prairie boy over a highly touted French-Canadian boy ... the pressure on Wick in Montreal had to be tremendous ... not an enviable situation. The rest, they say, is history and whether Doug's career, and Denis' for that matter, would be significantly different had the draft went the other way is a subject we can only debate now.

BTW, I was at the Pat's game when they held a memorial service for Doug ... very emotional night ... the fans in Regina have always remembered Wick ... he was a great player for them.
didn't he have a 26 goal season as a hab ? i agree with everything you said , just the wrong place at the wrong time for this man. R.I.P. doug

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