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07-27-2006, 09:27 AM
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OT - Landis fails Drug Test at Tour De France

Just posted at TSN.ca. Details to follow.

Not sure if anyone follows the tour, but this will be a pretty big story.

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I had a feeling it was him when a read an unnamed participant failed a drug test. It's official, cycling is a joke IMO.

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Yeah, I read the news...Wow this sport seriously has a black cloud over it. First the whole controversy with Armstrong and now this...

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"But I'm using the same guy Armstrong was using! I don't understand!"

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I hate this!!! It sucks for the guy who gets the title now. Oscar Pereiro won the thing fair and square as Landis cheated, and he will now be recognized as the winner. However this win is Anti-climatic. He does not get the celebration and absolute elation that comes with realizing you are the winner of a major sporting event.

I doubt being handed the title a week later can replicate the same joy inside that Pereiro would have had after the 20th stage and his moment was robbed of him by this dirty cheater.

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Until the "B" sample is tested the results are not conclusive, perhaps we should wait until all the information is in before crucifying Landis.

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Until the "B" sample is tested the results are not conclusive, perhaps we should wait until all the information is in before crucifying Landis.
How many times has the B sample cleared a guy. I can't think of any.

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Until the "B" sample is tested the results are not conclusive, perhaps we should wait until all the information is in before crucifying Landis.
Meh... that would be the sensible answer. But where's the fun in that? I already have my torch and pitchfork all ready...





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This news report is already out. The world is already crucifying him. Might as well join in.

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oh god

BIG SURPRISE

an American Cyclist cheating...







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The French must have replaced urine samples.

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a Cyclist cheating...






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How many times has the B sample cleared a guy. I can't think of any.
Neither can I, but they take the additional sample for a reason and there are other possible explainations for having an "unusual" level of testosterone besides being a cheat.

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oh god

a Cyclist cheating...





Double fixed.

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Meh... that would be the sensible answer. But where's the fun in that? I already have my torch and pitchfork all ready...





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This news report is already out. The world is already crucifying him. Might as well join in.
Pitchforks are so déclassé, the emerging trend in the tarring and feathering game is branding irons.

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I said American to point out Armstrong the last 7 years.

Thought you're right, a lot of them cheat, but Americans are definitely pioneers in cheating in all the sports.

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Lance Armstrong framed him!!!

Imagine if a european had won and got caught? the newspapers in France would try to pull Armstrong into the story anyway imagineable. This one's too easy though.

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what about all those favored riders coming into the tour who got nailed. none of which were American??? Armstrong never tested positive, what else do you want?

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I said American to point out Armstrong the last 7 years.

Thought you're right, a lot of them cheat, but Americans are definitely pioneers in cheating in all the sports.
please give examples???

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I said American to point out Armstrong the last 7 years.

Thought you're right, a lot of them cheat, but Americans are definitely pioneers in cheating in all the sports.
Holy generalization batman.

BTW when was Armstrong conclusively shown to have cheated? If Equipe's stories and the subsequent investigations had any merit the Tour would have stripped him of his titles.

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Lots of Accusations were made about Armstrong. Plenty of Investigations were launched. NONE showed any proof he cheated.

IMO He is as clean as they come, until proven otherwise.

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High levels of testosterone? Has the guy even had contact with a woman for the past several weeks? That could explain it

How can anyone take this sport seriously anymore, everyone is taking something

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I hate this!!! It sucks for the guy who gets the title now. Oscar Pereiro won the thing fair and square as Landis cheated, and he will now be recognized as the winner. However this win is Anti-climatic. He does not get the celebration and absolute elation that comes with realizing you are the winner of a major sporting event.

I doubt being handed the title a week later can replicate the same joy inside that Pereiro would have had after the 20th stage and his moment was robbed of him by this dirty cheater.
The odds are that Pereiro is probably cheating too. At this point it would be silly to assume that atleast 80% of the peleton is doping (probably higher) and just about all the main competitors.

It's gotten so bad that success itself is about as bad as failing a drug test. Even if the evidence on Amrstrong is shaky, we know he was doping because he dominated guys that we now know where doping (Ulrich, Basso, Mancebo, ect.)

I assumed that Landis (and all the top contenders) where doping befoe the tour started, and once we saw him at the top of the leader board I knew it was the case.

It's a shame because I really enjoy following cycling, but it's hard to maintain interest in a sport in which you know just about everyone is cheeting.

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It's gotten so bad that success itself is about as bad as failing a drug test. Even if the evidence on Amrstrong is shaky, we know he was doping because he dominated guys that we now know where doping (Ulrich, Basso, Mancebo, ect.)
Its impossible to be better than someone who is cheating without cheating yourself?? That's news to me.

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