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03-10-2013, 10:07 PM
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It's not a loser point. It's a tie point. You don't get a point for losing. You get a point for being tied after regulation. Although I agree that it should leave the game. IMO, a 3 PT regulation win would be the best idea, but the league likes "parity," AKA more meaningful games late in the season and closer playoff races.
I don't care how the NHL words it. The team that loses in OT leaves the game with one more point than the went in with. That's a loser point.

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It's not a loser point. It's a tie point. You don't get a point for losing. You get a point for being tied after regulation. Although I agree that it should leave the game. IMO, a 3 PT regulation win would be the best idea, but the league likes "parity," AKA more meaningful games late in the season and closer playoff races.
I was thinking about this earlier. Reward the reg win with 3 points, just like they are doing in soccer.

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It's not a loser point. It's a tie point. You don't get a point for losing. You get a point for being tied after regulation. Although I agree that it should leave the game. IMO, a 3 PT regulation win would be the best idea, but the league likes "parity," AKA more meaningful games late in the season and closer playoff races.
I could care less about the overall picture because IMO over the course of an 82 game season.. the best teams get in 99% of the time.

I'd be curious if any of the other point systems would drastically change many of the playoff teams/seeding over the last few years..

I'd prefer a point system that doesn't lead to a dull last few minutes at the end of a third period that's tied. No reason to take any chances because you're going to get a point if you just sit back.. then you can try for another few minutes in OT before sitting back again and waiting for the SO.

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I'm totally into a 3 point game

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I've always said 2 points for Regulation/OT win, 1 point for a SO win, no points for losing. You lose, you lose.

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I could care less about the overall picture because IMO over the course of an 82 game season.. the best teams get in 99% of the time.

I'd be curious if any of the other point systems would drastically change many of the playoff teams/seeding over the last few years..

I'd prefer a point system that doesn't lead to a dull last few minutes at the end of a third period that's tied. No reason to take any chances because you're going to get a point if you just sit back.. then you can try for another few minutes in OT before sitting back again and waiting for the SO.
That's the NHL's reason for adding the loser point. As much as I hate it, it makes sense.

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I don't care how the NHL words it. The team that loses in OT leaves the game with one more point than the went in with. That's a loser point.
Technically, if the game ended before OT/SO ended, each team would leave with a point. Hence, it's a tie point.

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I would prefer that OT and SO wins were not valued the same, but then regulation wins would have to be 4 points.

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Technically, if the game ended before OT/SO ended, each team would leave with a point. Hence, it's a tie point.

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3 pts for regulation win.
2 for OT/SO win.
1 for OT/SO loss.
0 for regulation loss.
I would prefer that OT and SO wins were not valued the same, but then regulation wins would have to be 4 points.
No, if they didn't give the loser point, they would go to OT and one team will leave with nothing. That's how it used to be once the NHL introduced OT in the regular season. I do support the three-point system, though.

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That's the NHL's reason for adding the loser point. As much as I hate it, it makes sense.
Their reason for the loser point is to keep the standings close and exciting.. and while that does the trick for teams that ultimately shouldn't be in the playoff race anyways (i.e. their fans fool themselves into thinking they have a better shot than they actually do because of OTL), I think there are other systems out there that would do the same without dulling play too much.

Or maybe that's just my spoiled POV from a team that hasn't really had any problems (aside from one disastrous season) making the playoffs the last decade and a half.. I guess fans of a franchise that barely competes for the top 8 every year ala Toronto probably have a different view of the loser point.

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No, if they didn't give the loser point, they would go to OT and one team will leave with nothing. That's how it used to be once the NHL introduced OT in the regular season. I do support the three-point system, though.
If the game is tied after 60 mins, each team gets a point. It ends up being the same thing anyway, I just don't like it being called a loser point. It's not a reward for losing. If you want rewards for losing, look no further than the draft. (unless you're the devils in 2011.)

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Pittsburgh's wingers in fantasy are so valuable. You can draft them in late rounds, and have them leech off Cindy and Shrek.
yep. dropping yakupov and picking up kunitz may be my best move ever. kunitz is killing it right now.

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Could these Colorado announcers be any worse?

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Wow! Buzzer beater for the Avs by Duchene!

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Must. Pry. Duchene. Out of Colorado.

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Wow. Anyone see that Boullion snipe today?

Wrong net, unfortunately.
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/con...d=nhl:topheads

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Wow. Anyone see that Boullion snipe today?

Wrong net, unfortunately.
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oh god haha. that might be the worst own goal ive ever seen

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oh god haha. that might be the worst own goal ive ever seen


This one takes the cake for me, but Bouillon's was pretty comical.

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Just wondering if you guys think the Ovie trade rumors are starting to have legs?

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Just wondering if you guys think the Ovie trade rumors are starting to have legs?
I don't know who'd want to acquire him. He has the biggest cap hit in the league, for a ton more years, and he's definitely not the best player. Doesn't backcheck, doesn't kill penalties, takes bad ones, and seems to have lost his edge.

In a vacuum, he's still a great player. Take into account everything that comes with him, however, and he's a huge risk for any team looking to add him.

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I think only teams that can't sell out would want to acquire him. More of a business move than a hockey move.

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No one wants that. Regarding cap, at least Nash brings game. Ovechkin's lost it.

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No. No legs.

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