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BUF Johen Hecht for VAN Mason Raymond

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03-11-2013, 03:34 PM
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BUF Johen Hecht for VAN Mason Raymond

Canucks fans probably won't like this from the perspective of Raymond's potential, especially considering he's appeared to have regained his form from years prior.

However, Hecht can play center and is decent defensively, and the Canucks have an overload of wingers. Raymond needs to be re-signed next year and I don't think that giving him a raise would provide the greatest value for the Canucks, who will be tight on the cap.. The Sabres' season is looking a bit grim and it would be a bad move to get younger and see what Raymond can provide with some quick, skilled linemates.

Hecht provides some experience, he can skate both ends of the ice, and should provide a bit of stability in the 3rd C spot alongside some good young wingers. He seems like a player AV would enjoy having on his team, and wouldn't be a long-term commitment. He could re-sign cheap next year.

Appears to be an ideal deadline "hockey trade" IMO. Share your thoughts!

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In no way shape or form do I cheer for either one of these teams so I can be honest with the proposal.

Buffalo would be ripping Vancouver off you would have to add a decent prospect or a second round pick at least for your hypothetical trade to even be close to having any value for the Canucks.

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In no way shape or form do I cheer for either one of these teams so I can be honest with the proposal.

Buffalo would be ripping Vancouver off you would have to add a decent prospect or a second round pick at least for your hypothetical trade to even be close to having any value for the Canucks.
I think you underestimate just how many tweener wingers the Canucks harbor and just how few capable centers the organization has.

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I think you underestimate just how many tweener wingers the Canucks harbor and just how few capable centers the organization has.
With Hechts age and statistics over the past few seasons I'm not exactly sure the Canucks would want to lose a trade for a guy 6 years older then the player their dealing, when they can wait for free agency and likely pick up a better center for nothing. Depends how much they want that centerman this season though.

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No interest in a Hecht for Raymond deal straight up. What about Raymond for Ott?

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I think you underestimate just how many tweener wingers the Canucks harbor and just how few capable centers the organization has.
So we should trade a 2nd liner for a 4th liner?
Sounds good.

Pominville for Weise?

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The time for Buffalo to rip us off in a trade again has not come, yet.

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Is Vancouver really that desperate for centers?

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No deal. Look for the Canucks to make a stop-gap acquisition by trading picks to help out at C. That's Gillis' MO.

Hecht for a mid-round pick, or Reasoner (NYI) for a mid-round pick.

Something like that.

It seems to me that Raymond will likely be re-signed to a cap-friendly deal. He's a tweener, but also a versatile 2-way player.

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So we should trade a 2nd liner for a 4th liner?
Sounds good.

Pominville for Weise?
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Weise is a standup 4th liner on the Canucks. On almost all other teams he'd be a third liner, potentially a 2nd liner on some of the weakest teams. I'm happy with him - he's fast, kills penalties, wins fights, hits hard - he could work on upping his energy level though...
Courtesy of Steve Bennett from the "Is Dale Weise the worst player in the NHL" thread.

Done from a Sabres POV

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I think you underestimate just how many tweener wingers the Canucks harbor and just how few capable centers the organization has.
No interest in Hecht. Especially not at the cost of Raymond, who has played very well this year.

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Raymond for Ott

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There's no way Buffalo would part with Ott. I'd love to see him in a Canucks uniform, but I dunno if it's likely.

Canucks 1st for Ott would be an ideal trade.

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Is Vancouver really that desperate for centers?
nope

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Jochen Hecht + Luke Adam for Mason Raymond + 2nd or 3rd

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Jochen Hecht + Luke Adam for Mason Raymond + 2nd or 3rd
Why is Vancouver adding a draft pick?

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No way Vancouver does Raymond for Hecht. Darcy would trip over himself just to get a 4th for Hecht.

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Jochen Hecht + Luke Adam for Mason Raymond + 2nd or 3rd
Done.

As for trading Ott for Raymond, I don't think I do it. I absolutely love Ott. If the Sabres decide to completely rebuild I would trade Ott for a first, though.

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How about hecht for a 3rd

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How about hecht for a 3rd
Ill do that to. To be honest ill trade for anything that allows us to give potential talent a spot in the lineup to see if theyll do anything. ie flynn whose doing pretty good so far.

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Its a bad trade but lets do it, what the Hecht.

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Hecht to Vancouver is a resonable deal. Buffalo would care less of having a disgunrled UFA on their team and instead would take a draft pick.

As what has been mantioned before....a trade of Poinville to Vancouver could include Hecht.

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Its a bad trade but lets do it, what the Hecht.
ahhh I see what you did there

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The time for Buffalo to rip us off in a trade again has not come, yet.
Canucks fans are still mad about Hodgson, eh?

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Canucks fans are still mad about Hodgson, eh?
We're pretty sure they aren't actually Canuck fans now

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