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Better future: Habs or Oilers?

View Poll Results: Which team has a better future?
Oilers 130 39.51%
Habs 199 60.49%
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03-11-2013, 12:01 PM
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Hm... lets see, how can we get everyone to vote my team up? Lets put up a poll of the best team currently in the east with one of the worst in the west.


Theres no way you are going to get a fair assessment in the question you have asked based on the way HF votes and the timing of when you put this poll in.


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03-11-2013, 12:04 PM
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Next year will be different once the Oilers fill their team with better veterans.

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03-11-2013, 12:07 PM
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Habs. For the Oil to get better they need better balance in nets and on the back end. Something that will either go through the draft or go by trading one of the big 4.

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03-11-2013, 01:03 PM
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Hm... lets see, how can we get everyone to vote my team up? Lets put up a poll of the best team currently in the east with one of the worst in the west.


Theres no way you are going to get a fair assessment in the question you have asked based on the way HF votes and the timing of when you put this poll in.
I would have voted for Montreal every time the last 5 years FWIW. Edmonton being one or the most poorly run teams in the league has been obvious for a while.

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03-11-2013, 01:06 PM
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I would have voted for Montreal every time the last 5 years FWIW. Edmonton being one or the most poorly run teams in the league has been obvious for a while.
You didn't even have your account for 5 years.

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03-11-2013, 01:07 PM
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When listing the Habs probable future Ds:

Subban (24)
Beaulieu (20)
Tinordi (20)
Pateryn (22)
Ellis (20)
Dietz (19)
Thrower (19)

With guys like Diaz and Emelin who are 26.

The key guy you can't look over out there is Darren Dietz. Very, very impressive player in all aspects of the game. Don't overlook a guy like Pateryn, who just played his first 2 games in the league this year, and who's a big body with great hockey IQ.

On offense, the Oliers have the obvious advantage, although the Habs have a lot of picks this upcoming draft. I hope they can somehow close the gap and get decent forward prospects.

You got:

Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Kristo, Collberg, Bozon, Hudon, Dumont that are notable prospects out there. Let's add a couple.

In front of the net, Price alone gives the nod to the Habs in that area.

Overall; Habs.
Top-end talent; Oilers

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03-11-2013, 01:13 PM
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As long as Edmonton has the same management and coaching staff I can not see how you can vote for the Oilers. Maybe once they get management that is willing to get better then I can see voting for the Oilers, but intill that I vote for Montreal AINEC

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03-11-2013, 01:32 PM
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You didn't even have your account for 5 years.
Hence the term "would have" .

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03-11-2013, 01:35 PM
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I'd say EDM by a mile.

I don't think using this season is a fair measuring stick. Your team is full of aged vets, and this season there are only half the games and they against your own conf. only. Next season will tell a lot more about the long term future because of the full schedule, more influx of prospects, and a well rounded even schedule across the whole league.

Long Term Future lets take a look at players aged 25 and under.. and that's really a shelf life of only 10-11 years... or should we go 22-23 and under with a longer shelf life of 14-15 years? I'll do 25 but list the rest... correct me if I am wrong..

someone should post the rest of the relevant MTL prospects with high end NHL potential if there are any... here is all i could find on the MTL site... with NHL potential...
EDM's average age is higher than MTL.

OT: MTL without question for me. We have/will have stars in every position. The Oilers future is less certain because of the concentration of forward talent - they lack defensive talent and elite goaltending.

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03-11-2013, 04:03 PM
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take away the outliers and recalculate

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03-11-2013, 04:14 PM
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take away the outliers and recalculate
Our best players:

Price
Subban
Plekanec (he's 30..... not that old)
Pacioretty

Galchenyuk and Gallagher are both very young and look like they'll do great - kind of like Yakupov (young and unproven, but high potential). It's not as though our best players are old. Our old players are fillers, which will be easily replaced from within the system in the coming years. No recalculation necessary. I could call the Oilers full of aged vets too, if I like. Hemsky, Horcoff, etc.; however, I'd be wrong.

From your original list, you're missing potential NHLers like Collberg, Thrower, Hudon, Leblanc, etc.

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03-11-2013, 04:59 PM
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Pacioretty - Galchenyuk - Gallagher = Hall - Nugent-Hopkins - Eberle

Subban - Diaz > Schultz - Petry

Price > Dubnyk

Habs, baby.

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03-11-2013, 05:09 PM
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Habs because it's more balanced. They have a young #1G, #1D, #1D, #1W and a lot of good prospects to fill out the roster in coming years.

Not to mention a lot of draft picks in this year's draft which will help a lot.
But who was #1C?

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03-11-2013, 05:13 PM
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Oilers have the "sexier" names but Habs are the better team by far.

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Pacioretty - Galchenyuk - Gallagher = Hall - Nugent-Hopkins - Eberle
This is quite a stretch.

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03-11-2013, 05:54 PM
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This is quite a stretch.
how so? i prefer the grit the Habs wingers have over the Oils finesse. i recognize the top-end talent the Oilers have, but the Habs have two wingers willing to go to the dirty areas to score.

i know Galchenyuk and Gallagher aren't first liners now... but the poll asks who has the better future.

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03-11-2013, 06:21 PM
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how so? i prefer the grit the Habs wingers have over the Oils finesse. i recognize the top-end talent the Oilers have, but the Habs have two wingers willing to go to the dirty areas to score.

i know Galchenyuk and Gallagher aren't first liners now... but the poll asks who has the better future.
You answered your own question. The top end talent of those Oiler forwards is what sets them apart. Those three Oiler forwards could very well form the core if a very sexy top six. Being able to go to the dirty areas isn't a replacement for talent. It's a complement to it.

Montreal's edge is in their balance. They lose up front.

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03-11-2013, 06:30 PM
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I am surprised to find myself voting Habs. They have strong young talent at all key positions, Edmonton has the young firepower but thin on the blueline and not sold on Dubnyk, it is a bit of a dimemma how their team is constructed and I don't trust that Tambo will play his cards right.

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03-11-2013, 06:34 PM
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Next year will be different once the Oilers fill their team with better veterans.
Said every Oilers fan between 2009-2012 as well.

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03-11-2013, 06:40 PM
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Oilers. All they need is a few balancing, role players and their set.

MTL can have all the balance but they'll never have the skill the oilers have.

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I am a Flame fan and hate to say this but the Oilers will be incredible in 3 years. Well, explosive anyway.

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03-11-2013, 06:42 PM
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This is quite a stretch.
Pacioretty > Eberle (I would give a slight advantage to Patches because of his physical play... both guys have the same production in the last few years but Patches bring that physical aspect as well)

Galchenyuk = RNH (Too early to tell)

Gallagher < Hall

So it's pretty equal

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Pacioretty > Eberle (I would give a slight advantage to Patches because of his physical play... both guys have the same production in the last few years but Patches bring that physical aspect as well)

Galchenyuk = RNH (Too early to tell)

Gallagher < Hall

So it's pretty equal
no its really not

Eberle > Pacioretty
Hall > Gallagher
RNH > Galchenyuk


Forwards - Oilers
Defence - Habs
Goaltending - Habs AINEC

Habs got alot more going for them but when it comes to who they have upfront, the Oilers are a pretty easy choice.

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Said every Oilers fan between 2009-2012 as well.
You understand Oilers started their rebuild in 2010 after drafting Hall? I'm not worried about this year. Oilers are trying to find out who remains on the team and who are traded for supporting cast.

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no its really not

Eberle > Pacioretty
Hall > Gallagher
RNH > Galchenyuk


Forwards - Oilers
Defence - Habs
Goaltending - Habs AINEC

Habs got alot more going for them but when it comes to who they have upfront, the Oilers are a pretty easy choice.
You and your GM think alike and this is why the Oilers is not going to the playoff until they change their GM. Your top 6 has skill but no grit. Your D and goalie is shaky. Without major changes, the Oilers is not going to make the playoff.

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