It's a bit too much I agree but Calder is much more useful to a team than Ribeiro. Calder brings leadership, grit and good work ethic. He's a hard working guy who brings near 60 points a year. I know 29 other teams looking for a player like him
And Ribeiro is a non-hard-working guy who brings near 60 points a year. With his contract, he'd be a steal if he would actually apply himself at improving.
What the hell are these arbitrator's doing? This is a disgrace, close to 3M I don't like Ribs contract, don't understand why got got a huge raise but if these arbitrator's keep handing out crappy contracts, I fear what some Habs might get next year if any ended up going to arbitration, since Gainey gave out a lot of one year contracts.
What the hell are these arbitrator's doing? This is a disgrace, close to 3M I don't like Ribs contract, don't understand why got got a huge raise but if these arbitrator's keep handing out crappy contracts, I fear what some Habs might get next year if any ended up going to arbitration, since Gainey gave out a lot of one year contracts.
One would assume Ryder would return to arbitration if he pulls out another great season. Higgins and Komisarek might also. Plekanec is unlikely but possible. Maybe even Aebischer if he's still around.
One would assume Ryder would return to arbitration if he pulls out another great season. Higgins and Komisarek might also. Plekanec is unlikely but possible. Maybe even Aebischer if he's still around.
Aebischer will be a UFA next year.
I suspect the arbitrator's have been hired by espn in an attempt to get back at the NHL for going with OLN instead of signing with them, this way they can try and get the NHL back on their networks after the next lockout.
It's a bit too much I agree but Calder is much more useful to a team than Ribeiro. Calder brings leadership, grit and good work ethic. He's a hard working guy who brings near 60 points a year. I know 29 other teams looking for a player like him
hmmm, I could see your point if Calder had produced more than one 59 point season in his 5 nhl seasons.
He may be gritty and bring more leadership than ribs, but he's still way overpaid.
What the hell are these arbitrator's doing? This is a disgrace, close to 3M I don't like Ribs contract, don't understand why got got a huge raise but if these arbitrator's keep handing out crappy contracts, I fear what some Habs might get next year if any ended up going to arbitration, since Gainey gave out a lot of one year contracts.
It is obvious that the Habs will lose players to free agency eventually because of arbitration and Im not sure other free agents will be lined up to sign. There is less encentive to get better and teams have to watch themselves deteriorate as their players leave to bottom feeders or to sunny climes. It is the same garbage as free agency at 27. There will be serious distortions. The Habs are already at a disadvantage with a different language, taxes, weather, press etc. The players rule. There may be a cap but why bother to root for a team when they will be handicapped in terms of free agency of there is less encentive to be rewarded on the basis of fair play merit but sunnier climes, taxes, anglo culture whatever determines success
It is obvious that the Habs will lose players to free agency eventually because of arbitration and Im not sure other free agents will be lined up to sign. There is less encentive to get better and teams have to watch themselves deteriorate as their players leave to bottom feeders or to sunny climes. It is the same garbage as free agency at 27. There will be serious distortions. The Habs are already at a disadvantage with a different language, taxes, weather, press etc. The players rule. There may be a cap but why bother to root for a team when they will be handicapped in terms of free agency of there is less encentive to be rewarded on the basis of fair play merit but sunnier climes, taxes, anglo culture whatever determines success
This thread is blurring the distinction between UFA at 27 and arbitration.
IMO free agency is a more potent disrupter than arbitration because at least with arbitration the team has a choice in keeping a player. Once a player is a UFA, the team is powerless. Also, please note that only a minority of players opt for arbitration. Only one Hab took that path, and the process was aborted when Ryder reached a settlement before arbitration.
Still, arbitration can also affect team stability. The higher the arbitration awards, the less the cap room. However, that principle applies to every NHL team, not just the Habs. A player does not opt for arbitration if his motive is just to play in a sunnier clime or to feel culturally comfortablr or to escape taxes. He does it because he wants to stay, although at a higher salary than what was offered him. If those extraneous issues are the nub of his discontent, he asks for a trade or waits until he eligible for unrestricted free agency.
This thread is blurring the distinction between UFA at 27 and arbitration.
IMO free agency is a more potent disrupter than arbitration because at least with arbitration the team has a choice in keeping a player. Once a player is a UFA, the team is powerless. Also, please note that only a minority of players opt for arbitration. Only one Hab took that path, and the process was aborted when Ryder reached a settlement before arbitration.
Still, arbitration can also affect team stability. The higher the arbitration awards, the less the cap room. However, that principle applies to every NHL team, not just the Habs. A player does not opt for arbitration if his motive is just to play in a sunnier clime or to feel culturally comfortablr or to escape taxes. He does it because he wants to stay, although at a higher salary than what was offered him. If those extraneous issues are the nub of his discontent, he asks for a trade or waits until he eligible for unrestricted free agency.
The pressure is to assign more decision making power in the hands of the players about where they will play as teams will not be able to afford many so the decision to play somewhere else will be based on money, climate, language, taxes, press etc and the habs will suffer. It is an effect it which doesnt mean that the world will explode but it will negatively impact on the Habs if they are gaining because of meritorious drafting trading etc.
This thread is blurring the distinction between UFA at 27 and arbitration.
IMO free agency is a more potent disrupter than arbitration because at least with arbitration the team has a choice in keeping a player. Once a player is a UFA, the team is powerless. Also, please note that only a minority of players opt for arbitration. Only one Hab took that path, and the process was aborted when Ryder reached a settlement before arbitration.
Still, arbitration can also affect team stability. The higher the arbitration awards, the less the cap room. However, that principle applies to every NHL team, not just the Habs. A player does not opt for arbitration if his motive is just to play in a sunnier clime or to feel culturally comfortablr or to escape taxes. He does it because he wants to stay, although at a higher salary than what was offered him. If those extraneous issues are the nub of his discontent, he asks for a trade or waits until he eligible for unrestricted free agency.
If teams are forced to walk away the players will be free agents hence similar impact on teams
Ribeiro is a great passer, has lots of talent, but he's such an anti-Gainey, lazy, slow skater, has such a bad attitude, Ribs is even lazy to get back to the bench for quick line changes which is so selfish...very anti-team of him. Ribeiro brings shame to the CH. I can't wait till he leaves. We need more guys like Higgins, Komisarek, Chipchura...now these guys I'm proud of!
It's a bit too much I agree but Calder is much more useful to a team than Ribeiro. Calder brings leadership, grit and good work ethic. He's a hard working guy who brings near 60 points a year. I know 29 other teams looking for a player like him
no he doesn't.
even if he did, ribeiro doesn't even try and pretty much eclipses what calder does. with our coaching staff ribs will work hard on a nightly basis (or he'll hit the bricks) and he'll be a bargain compared to calder.
calder's contract makes bob look like a genius. he took a few bumps, but he's getting a good handle of things now.
What the hell are these arbitrator's doing? This is a disgrace, close to 3M I don't like Ribs contract, don't understand why got got a huge raise but if these arbitrator's keep handing out crappy contracts, I fear what some Habs might get next year if any ended up going to arbitration, since Gainey gave out a lot of one year contracts.
I don't like Ribs contract, don't understand why got got a huge raise but if these arbitrator's keep handing out crappy contracts, I fear what some Habs might get next year if any ended up going to arbitration, since Gainey gave out a lot of one year contracts.
