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03-11-2013, 09:12 PM
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Burke...just go away. You made some good deals but lets not act like you would have traded Matt Lombardi , put your fellow American on waivers if it was in your hands.

You promised a tough team and didn't live up to it. Nonis didn't promise anything but he's showing a lot of patience with a young team...something he have done.


We're near or at the top of the league in fights and hits. How is that not the tough team Burke promised?

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Couldn't find anyone else to interview? Feschuk is a baby in a mans body. The day Carlyle signed he gets out of the car to the ACC, feschuk tries to ambush interview him, carlyle ignores him, feschuk goes on twitter and whines to the world how he's been mistreated. Scum bag. Burke made mistakes but he's also the reason this team is in the position they are in.

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In this episode we interview Dave Faschuk from the Toronto Star in regards to yesterdays article. we also ask him if he has a personal hate on for Burke.

Ex-Maple Leafs GM Brian Burke wants credit for Leafs turnaround while ignoring his mistakes: Only Brian Burke could ignore all of the shortcomings of his tenure as Leaf GM and crow about how he “set the table” for their current success.
Interesting...when I read the article it seemed to be about downplaying the positives of Burke's time here while exagerating his shortcommings. I guess one could retort that only a Star reporter (agenda?) could ignore all the positives of Burke's tenure as Leaf's GM while focusing on his shortcommings...

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Credit for what?

We are not in the post season yet...

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Burke...just go away. You made some good deals but lets not act like you would have traded Matt Lombardi , put your fellow American on waivers if it was in your hands.
Don Maloney said in his press conference after the trade that he had been discussing the Lombardi trade prior to the lockout and the only reason it took so long to confirm was due Phoenix needing to figure out the financial aspect of the trade.

Somehow I'm sure you knew that but don't really care since it doesn't fit in with your agenda.

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Wasn't Feschuk the ONE who called Reimers mom? If so how was that not personal?
She definitely had things that she wanted to say, as I remember. So good for Feschuk, it's his job to dig for other points of view. I have no problem with that whatsoever.

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03-11-2013, 09:44 PM
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Typical Burke and his big ego! However, he does deserve credit for building this team because pretty much every player who isn't named Mclaren is a Burke product. On the flip side Burke goofed big time by sticking behind Wilson, making promises he couldn't keep and sticking with his "americans", those things did him in IMO and rightfully so.

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Reporters don't need permission to search out the news or truth.

Sorry, but independent people don't need to ask Clubs for permission, that isn't how news is done.
Not that it matters, what Feschuk does isn't news.

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Burke was a great GM. He hired some of the best staff in the game and put some prospects in what was an empty pool for years before he got here. He essentially built this team from nothing, and aside from the Kessel trade didn't make any real bad moves (only because the Kessel trade is hotly debated, feel free to disagree).

However, his inability to fire his pal Ron Wilson when it was clear he wasn't working led to Burke's downfall. This team is the same as Burke's team (minus JVR) and with a different system the team has some early season success.
The biggest factor to Burke's firing is the change in ownership of MLSE.

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I really dislike Feschuk. The only time he writes about the Leafs it's like a vulture trying to pick the bones clean.

So Burke went and spoke to MIT, who effing cares? Did he call media to come and interview him there?

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Burke...just go away. You made some good deals but lets not act like you would have traded Matt Lombardi , put your fellow American on waivers if it was in your hands.

You promised a tough team and didn't live up to it. Nonis didn't promise anything but he's showing a lot of patience with a young team...something he have done.
Yes Burke, please go away and stop people from talking about you on the Internet, how dare you have the audacity to let this moron talk about you.

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Not that it matters, what Feschuk does isn't news.
Unless you call the National Enquirer news.

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03-11-2013, 09:51 PM
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I said long ago Burkes loyalty was his downfall. Ron Wilson took him down because he didn't fire his arrogant arse after year #2 of terrible product he produced on the ice. He has heisted away Lupul,Phaneuf,Gardiner,Kessel,JVR,and possibly that looks somewhat like a core.

No you say? Lets add McCLEM.

When he signed Connolly there was SFA better on the UFA market,Komi never came close to playing up to his pre leaf form,and nobody played well for Wilson anyways (how could they with that piece of %$#@.

Completely burgularized for Fraser,MacArthur is 20 goals in the bank every year almost.

Liles was gotten for a 2nd round pick in 2012 (mark winther)(ever heard of him)? Didn't think so. Liles was darn good until his concussion,and was not terrible this year before Carlyle benched his arse.

Cody franson another heist but he was not able to play with moron Wilson(see a pattern here? That was for Lebda,and Robert Slaney huh.

Listened to his massively built up scouting staff for some late round gems that stocks our system.Insisted on slow developement of prospects(instilled it actually to this day within the organization.

Nonis has added McLaren off waivers/traded Brown to the oilers for a 4th round pick(oil aren't making the play-offs to give the 3rd).Signed franson 1 year,Mike Mattau 1 year 2way contract(Marlies). Moved LOMBO for a 4th to the coyotes,Signed Lupul,Leivo and Holzer.

This is Burkes team and he darn well deserves credit for it.He hired Carlyle too(too late to save his job unfortunately.

Most likely his best move that he will be pretty pround of in years to come is drafting Nazem Kadri at# 7 in the 09 draft. Kadri is looking like he will be every bit as good a point producer as all 6 picked ahead of him.

The he scooped Rielly in 2012 at the 5 slot,and said he would have taken him 1st if he was picking 1st overall.Everyone laughed at him,but now call Reilly the steal of the draft.

Thanks Burkie we'll enjoy your work for years.

Now what was it saying in the Article.i didn't read it!

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Yes Burke, please go away and stop people from talking about you on the Internet, how dare you have the audacity to let this moron talk about you.
Why exactly are people in such a hurry to thank Burke?

What has he done? Sure he won a lot of his deals...what was the goal though? Winning trades or playoffs?

Burke himself said that Wilson didn't like his teams to be the way he(Burke) wanted and YET he kept him for 3 years..

Burke is a hypocrite. The only person we should be thanking is REIMER. Without him...it's Kessel for 2 2nd overall picks that could have given the Bruins Seguin+Landeskog. Easily one of the worst trades in all of pro sports if that happened.

Thank Burke all you want but the credit goes to Carlyle. Had we played great enough to be 9th last year, Ron Wilson would still be coach.

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Why exactly are people in such a hurry to thank Burke?

What has he done? Sure he won a lot of his deals...what was the goal though? Winning trades or playoffs?

Burke himself said that Wilson didn't like his teams to be the way he(Burke) wanted and YET he kept him for 3 years..

Burke is a hypocrite. The only person we should be thanking is REIMER. Without him...it's Kessel for 2 2nd overall picks that could have given the Bruins Seguin+Landeskog. Easily one of the worst trades in all of pro sports if that happened.

Thank Burke all you want but the credit goes to Carlyle. Had we played great enough to be 9th last year, Ron Wilson would still be coach.
What does this have to do with the utter stupidity of blaming a guy for not going away when the moron du jour starts another discussion (feschuk in this case) About him?

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Burke deserves credit for being in the drivers seat of an 18 wheeler that went off a cliff (his own words not mine) under his direction.

Nonis and Carlyle immediately came in this season and changed the culture of the team, putting accountability on the players and playing the best ones regardless of age, experience and contract and wiped out "sense of entitlement.

We all heard Burke call a press conference to demote Orr and complain about the rats taking over the league while he iced a small, soft and easily intimidated lineup. Today we see Nonis recalling Orr and adding McLaren and Frazer and making the Leafs one of the most physical teams in the league. Gone are the powder puffs Lombardi, Connolly and exiled Liles.

Hate to think how bad this team would be again if we still had all those small soft players playing each game while Kadri, Frattin and other kids would have be exiled to the AHL like in the past.

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I said long ago Burkes loyalty was his downfall. Ron Wilson took him down because he didn't fire his arrogant arse after year #2 of terrible product he produced on the ice. He has heisted away Lupul,Phaneuf,Gardiner,Kessel,JVR,and possibly that looks somewhat like a core.

No you say? Lets add McCLEM.

When he signed Connolly there was SFA better on the UFA market,Komi never came close to playing up to his pre leaf form,and nobody played well for Wilson anyways (how could they with that piece of %$#@.

Completely burgularized for Fraser,MacArthur is 20 goals in the bank every year almost.

Liles was gotten for a 2nd round pick in 2012 (mark winther)(ever heard of him)? Didn't think so. Liles was darn good until his concussion,and was not terrible this year before Carlyle benched his arse.

Cody franson another heist but he was not able to play with moron Wilson(see a pattern here? That was for Lebda,and Robert Slaney huh.

Listened to his massively built up scouting staff for some late round gems that stocks our system.Insisted on slow developement of prospects(instilled it actually to this day within the organization.

Nonis has added McLaren off waivers/traded Brown to the oilers for a 4th round pick(oil aren't making the play-offs to give the 3rd).Signed franson 1 year,Mike Mattau 1 year 2way contract(Marlies). Moved LOMBO for a 4th to the coyotes,Signed Lupul,Leivo and Holzer.

This is Burkes team and he darn well deserves credit for it.He hired Carlyle too(too late to save his job unfortunately.

Most likely his best move that he will be pretty pround of in years to come is drafting Nazem Kadri at# 7 in the 09 draft. Kadri is looking like he will be every bit as good a point producer as all 6 picked ahead of him.

The he scooped Rielly in 2012 at the 5 slot,and said he would have taken him 1st if he was picking 1st overall.Everyone laughed at him,but now call Reilly the steal of the draft.

Thanks Burkie we'll enjoy your work for years.

Now what was it saying in the Article.i didn't read it!
Great show. Vancouver is still enjoying Burke's work. Of course Gillis is trying to make a heist and take a big chunk of Burke's work in Kadri plus for Luongo, which is Nonis' work. Alas for Burke, but we're still in good hands with Nonis.

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Burke deserves credit for being in the drivers seat of an 18 wheeler that went off a cliff (his own words not mine) under his direction.

Nonis and Carlyle immediately came in this season and changed the culture of the team, putting accountability on the players and playing the best ones regardless of age, experience and contract and wiped out "sense of entitlement.

We all heard Burke call a press conference to demote Orr and complain about the rats taking over the league while he iced a small, soft and easily intimidated lineup. Today we see Nonis recalling Orr and adding McLaren and Frazer and making the Leafs one of the most physical teams in the league. Gone are the powder puffs Lombardi, Connolly and exiled Liles.

Hate to think how bad this team would be again if we still had all those small soft players playing each game while Kadri, Frattin and other kids would have be exiled to the AHL like in the past.
I agree. Thank you Burke for bringing in Carlyle!!

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Burke deserves credit for being in the drivers seat of an 18 wheeler that went off a cliff (his own words not mine) under his direction.

Nonis and Carlyle immediately came in this season and changed the culture of the team, putting accountability on the players and playing the best ones regardless of age, experience and contract and wiped out "sense of entitlement.

We all heard Burke call a press conference to demote Orr and complain about the rats taking over the league while he iced a small, soft and easily intimidated lineup. Today we see Nonis recalling Orr and adding McLaren and Frazer and making the Leafs one of the most physical teams in the league. Gone are the powder puffs Lombardi, Connolly and exiled Liles.

Hate to think how bad this team would be again if we still had all those small soft players playing each game while Kadri, Frattin and other kids would have be exiled to the AHL like in the past.
Orr was out of shape and was no longer effective as an NHL player. Did you read that article earlier in the year about how Eakins helped turned Orr's career around?

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I agree. Thank you Burke for bringing in Carlyle!!
Hahahaha

How true. People forget that when they bash Burke.

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Burke deserves much of the respect. He built a great team imho. His attitude was what did him in...
Stretch.

The team has been good against bad teams, still need to see if they can be good against good teams, and then if they can do that consistently.

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Why exactly are people in such a hurry to thank Burke?

What has he done? Sure he won a lot of his deals...what was the goal though? Winning trades or playoffs?

Burke himself said that Wilson didn't like his teams to be the way he(Burke) wanted and YET he kept him for 3 years..

Burke is a hypocrite. The only person we should be thanking is REIMER. Without him...it's Kessel for 2 2nd overall picks that could have given the Bruins Seguin+Landeskog. Easily one of the worst trades in all of pro sports if that happened.

Thank Burke all you want but the credit goes to Carlyle. Had we played great enough to be 9th last year, Ron Wilson would still be coach.
Kessel is out scoring Seguin again and is only 8 points out from out scoring both Seguin/Hamilton. Burke turned the boston 30th pick in the first round of 2011 to Tyler Biggs/Colborne for Kaberle to. So when Edmonton sitting 25th this year with all those 1st round/first overall picks miss the play-offs. explain how a Wilson coached team is Burkes fault to me again because of a (if)?

Keep to facts instead of ifs and buts.

here is a fact for you. Kessel is better than Seguin,and when Biggs/Colborne are playing it could possibly turn out Burke got the better of charelli too.


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Stretch.

The team has been good against bad teams, still need to see if they can be good against good teams, and then if they can do that consistently.
Yup, terrible teams like Pittsburgh, Montreal, Ottawa, New Jersey.

Can someone name a single game this year that the Leafs could not have possibly won? A single game where they had no chance?

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Yup, terrible teams like Pittsburgh, Montreal, Ottawa, New Jersey.

Can someone name a single game this year that the Leafs could not have possibly won? A single game where they had no chance?
The only games that I feel like this team has no hope is any game against Boston and even those games have been close.

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This is Burke's team and he deserves the credit for their success thus far. His roster by and large and his coach... Seems pretty simple.

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