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Conner Hurley looking the part thus far, just about two periods into his first state tourney game this year, already has a hat trick.

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Good find RB. Sounds like a Ranger pick for sure.

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Miller was one of the players honest enough to disclose at the scouting combine that he had suffered a concussion.
Haha. This. Most of these players have suffered a concussion at some point. Its hard to avoid it playing at the highest level in your age group with other young kids.

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Good find RB. Sounds like a Ranger pick for sure.
Smooth skating right handed d-man? Sign me up. That is the prospect pool's largest hole, IMO.

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Conner Hurley looking the part thus far, just about two periods into his first state tourney game this year, already has a hat trick.
He's an important player to us already. He'll be playing with Bryan Fogarty at Notre Dame.

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He's an important player to us already. He'll be playing with Bryan Fogarty at Notre Dame.
Steven Fogarty will be jealous.

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He's an important player to us already. He'll be playing with Bryan Fogarty at Notre Dame.
Ugh. Such a sad story.

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Whoa, wrong Fogarty, who will stop the rain?

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Can someone give me some insight on Jaimen Yakubowski? Seems to be very gritty.

Dane Fox should be picked up IMO.

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NBCsports has Maine @ U of New Hampshire Tonight 7:30EST, get a good look at Brett Pesce.

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What about Darcy Ashley...undrafted and playing in the shadows of Drouin & McKinnon and still put up 25 goals thus far . He is small , feisty and can fly . He was also just awarded the Dickie's award for being the hardest working player in the Q league a week ago and IMO that is quite an honor . Who knows...he could be a Marchand lite clone .

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What about Darcy Ashley...undrafted and playing in the shadows of Drouin & McKinnon and still put up 25 goals thus far . He is small , feisty and can fly . He was also just awarded the Dickie's award for being the hardest working player in the Q league a week ago and IMO that is quite an honor . Who knows...he could be a Marchand lite clone .
Really small overager. I would not say in shadows of those great players, but he makes the most of his oppurtunities against 2nd pair opposition. I'm sure he's a hard worker, but he'd have to be exceptional at it to survive in the Pro game.

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Devils have done it a fair bit in the past. I always felt like it was wasting picks too, especially when you have a good scouting staff that could have maybe done some good things with the picks. Esp. now with just 7 rounds in the draft. I mean, unless the player is showing more than just enforcer potential. Everybody wants the toughguy who can also play.

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Anders Lee will be FA this year?

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Nice size, has some skill. Would be an intriguing pick up.

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According to who? Islanders still have his rights.

Wouldn't shock me if he worked the loophole but I had not heard that.

Would be the #1 target, lot of potential.

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These are a few guys mentioned in THN a couple of months ago that might be of interest to us.

New England prospects:

1. Tyler Hill, LW , Hotchkiss, CT - Models game after Eric Lindros and has the mean streak and talent needed to be a top player.

2. Eddie Elliss, LW , Phillips-Andover, MA- Hard-working power forward has great vision, soft hands.

3. Thomas Aldworth, C , Cushing, MA - Mid-Sized speedster. Has some listing him as the top prospect out of New England. Another scout claimed might be the best skater since Chris Kreider, NYR.


Minnesota Prospects:

1. Connor Hurley, C, Edina, MN - Offensive force also spent time with Team USA. Headed to Notre Dame. I know he's been mentioned here before.

2. Parker Reno, D, Edina, MN - Thick at 6' 2",190 pounds. Reno has the physical makeup of a pro and can put up points in a playmaking role.

3. Teemu Kivihalme, D, Burnsville, MN - Finish-American skates like Phil Housley. Has the offensive chops, though sometimes plays like a wild stallion that needs to be reined in.


2013 draft, we have a 2nd and 4 3rd round picks plus our 4th and 6th. These players fit the Rangers MO and we have been drafting from MN and NE lately. Maybe a few of these guys might peek the interest of Gordie and Gorton.

Any personal or inside information on any of these players would be much appreciated.

What do you guys think?


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According to who? Islanders still have his rights.

Wouldn't shock me if he worked the loophole but I had not heard that.

Would be the #1 target, lot of potential.
Didn't they close that loophole in the latest CBA?

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Didn't they close that loophole in the latest CBA?
Thought it was only for players drafted after the CBA took affect.

Could be wrong though.

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I am hoping the Rangers go for some more skilled players and a few players who can bring the pain. Would be nice to have young players who can intimidate and create momentum via hits and physical play on the lower lines. They have to be able to skate though.

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Thought it was only for players drafted after the CBA took affect.

Could be wrong though.
I'm sure RB will show up to clarify.

Either way, I like Lee quite a bit. Stealing a kid like that from the Islanders would be icing on the cake.

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The MOU deals with changes to article 8

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Current rules regarding exclusive negotiating rights for College Players will remain status quo. Parties to incorporate NHL/NHLPA Agreement on College Players leaving college prior to graduation (but following the fourth June 1 after date of Draft) (i.e., Goepfert Letter Agreement).
http://nbcprohockeytalk.files.wordpr...an-12-2013.pdf

Nobody knows what is in the Goepfert Letter Agreement. That deals with the players who play in the USHL or BCHL after being drafted and they leave school after 3 years. Justin Schultz/Blake Wheeler. 4th June. Anders Lee is one of those guys.

The August 15 deadline for players whose class graduates is the same.

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Was put into wrong thread before

Right now we are at 49 contracts
MSC is signed and will count against the 50 number next year. As will Josh Nicholls
Most likely Sam Noreau and Shane McColgan will also get ELCs this offseason
A big ?? is Peter Ceresnak IMO. Might have a very late development curve as is the case with many bigger players. Scouts saw something when he was picked for sure. I think he will not be signed though.
The NCAA College kids (Skjei, Nieves, Fogarty) will most likely stay in school another year, at least...
Do not see us signing any of the unsigned Euros in the org either this year (Fast & Lindberg are already signed and will both be here for camp - maybe earlier)
Mats Zuccarello is of course a big ???
So we will most likely not have many new contracts given to our own draft picks for next season
That makes it around 53(54?) players that will be contracted into the offseason.

But there will be a lot of roster players that are free agents and are also probably goners as well. Maybe something like:

RFAs - likely gone (3)
Sauer , Delisle, Pyett

UFAs - likely gone (7)
Hamrlik, Eminger, Halpern, Gilroy, Collins, Segal, Vernace??

RFAs - will likely resign (8)
McDonagh, Stepan, Hagelin, Ferriero, Palmieri, Mashinter (he is RFA - no?), Parlett, Niemi ??

This means - pending other roster action that you know is going to happen - that we would have something like 53 minus 10 spots = 43 signed contracts for next year.
I could therefore see us take a flyer on 2-4 names listed below here (or other unknowns), all of course depending on what happens in general. In addition - we would likely sign 3 - 5 names as free agents (or through trades) for filling up the NYR & CT Whale rosters.
CT is going to have a young and interesting makeup next year. That is for sure.

Regarding unsigned NCAA players mentioned here

DeKeyser - seems like he chooses his destination. Apparently has high ceiling - but will ne choose NYR? Likely not...
Sustr - was a Ranger camp invitee. Gargantua Kjell Samuelsson reincarnated? Definitely intriguing and a possibility
Laganiere - Big guy. Montreal bound? Interesting name though...
Lain - has history with Jean. Center. Want!

Some more free agent names out of the NCAA that might be of interest are here:

Defense
Nate Schmidt, Minnesota
Chris Casto, Minnesota-Duluth
Shayne Taker, Notre Dame
Kenney Morrison, Western Michigan
Wade Epp, Northern Michigan
Mike Boivin, Colorado College

Forwards
Eriah Hayes, Minnesota State
Ryan Walters, Nebraska-Omaha
Austin Czarnik, Miami
Alex Krushelnyski, Colorado College
Drew Leblanc, St. Cloud
Gabe Guertler, Minnesota

Outside of that there are some more interesting unsigned guys that might warrant a look. They include:
Joel Vermin, Switzerland
Petr Straka, Baie-Comeau Drakkar
Darcy Ashley, Halifax Mooseheads

Regarding the draft
Connor Hurley, Pat Mullane, Parker Reno, Eddie Elliss, Tyler Hill, Brett Pesce, Will Butcher, Miles Bell, Jacob de la Rose, Justin Bailey and Emil Djuse are IMO all names to look into at the draft.
But some of these players will most likely be gone before we pick. We have a 2nd, 3-4 3rds a 4th and a 6th rounder at the moment. I think looking at a goalie or two might be a wise way to use a lower pick too.
Undrafted dark horse Swedish goalies Anton Forsberg or Sebastian Idoff could be worth a 7th rounder (which we then need to pick up) IMO. Back to the future thing...

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Teams that pass on Flanagan are going to regret it later. Carvel is convinced he'll be an NHL player in some role and I can't say I disagree.

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Teams that pass on Flanagan are going to regret it later. Carvel is convinced he'll be an NHL player in some role and I can't say I disagree.
He's not very big. Though, he plays around what I played at so I think he can make it.

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Right now we are at 49 contracts
MSC is signed and will count against the 50 number next year. As will Josh Nicholls
Most likely Sam Noreau and Shane McColgan will also get ELCs this offseason
A big ?? is Peter Ceresnak IMO. Might have a very late development curve as is the case with many bigger players. Scouts saw something when he was picked for sure. I think he will not be signed though.
The NCAA College kids (Skjei, Nieves, Fogarty) will most likely stay in school another year, at least...
Do not see us signing any of the unsigned Euros in the org either this year (Fast & Lindberg are already signed and will both be here for camp - maybe earlier)
Mats Zuccarello is of course a big ???
So we will most likely not have many new contracts given to our own draft picks for next season
That makes it around 53(54?) players that will be contracted into the offseason.

But there will be a lot of roster players that are free agents and are also probably goners as well. Maybe something like:

RFAs - likely gone (3)
Sauer , Delisle, Pyett

UFAs - likely gone (7)
Hamrlik, Eminger, Halpern, Gilroy, Collins, Segal, Vernace??

RFAs - will likely resign (8)
McDonagh, Stepan, Hagelin, Ferriero, Palmieri, Mashinter (he is RFA - no?), Parlett, Niemi ??

This means - pending other roster action that you know is going to happen - that we would have something like 53 minus 10 spots = 43 signed contracts for next year.
I could therefore see us take a flyer on 2-4 names listed below here (or other unknowns), all of course depending on what happens in general. In addition - we would likely sign 3 - 5 names as free agents (or through trades) for filling up the NYR & CT Whale rosters.
CT is going to have a young and interesting makeup next year. That is for sure.

Regarding unsigned NCAA players mentioned here

DeKeyser - seems like he chooses his destination. Apparently has high ceiling - but will ne choose NYR? Likely not...
Sustr - was a Ranger camp invitee. Gargantua Kjell Samuelsson reincarnated? Definitely intriguing and a possibility
Laganiere - Big guy. Montreal bound? Interesting name though...
Lain - has history with Jean. Center. Want!

Some more free agent names out of the NCAA that might be of interest are here:

Defense
Nate Schmidt, Minnesota
Chris Casto, Minnesota-Duluth
Shayne Taker, Notre Dame
Kenney Morrison, Western Michigan
Wade Epp, Northern Michigan
Mike Boivin, Colorado College

Forwards
Eriah Hayes, Minnesota State
Ryan Walters, Nebraska-Omaha
Austin Czarnik, Miami
Alex Krushelnyski, Colorado College
Drew Leblanc, St. Cloud
Gabe Guertler, Minnesota

Outside of that there are some more interesting unsigned guys that might warrant a look. They include:
Joel Vermin, Switzerland
Petr Straka, Baie-Comeau Drakkar
Darcy Ashley, Halifax Mooseheads

Regarding the draft
Connor Hurley, Pat Mullane, Parker Reno, Eddie Elliss, Tyler Hill, Brett Pesce, Will Butcher, Miles Bell, Jacob de la Rose, Justin Bailey and Emil Djuse are IMO all names to look into at the draft.
But some of these players will most likely be gone before we pick. We have a 2nd, 3-4 3rds a 4th and a 6th rounder at the moment. I think looking at a goalie or two might be a wise way to use a lower pick too.
Undrafted dark horse Swedish goalies Anton Forsberg or Sebastian Idoff could be worth a 7th rounder (which we then need to pick up) IMO. Back to the future thing...
Wouldn't mind Dane Fox in here. We would def need a goalie somewhere And IMO Forsberg and Idoff are on the shorter end of the stick. I think there are better available goalies than them like Hartzell or Grosenick.

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