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03-12-2013, 05:59 PM
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Sign a big forward UFA who can play top 6 minutes.
Trade for a top 3 pmd.
Draft Barkov/Monahan/Lazar with your 1st pick, and Comrie/Jarry/Martin with your 2nd pick.

If Tambo can do this then he can stay.
Still won't have a goalie, still won't have a good enough defense, still a mediocre team.

That high first can't go toward another forward. Not with some of the defensemen that will be there in that top ten.

Edmonton's best hope is to wind up in the top 3 or 4, then try to move up to number one, hoping the team picking there needs a forward more than a defenseman and is willing to bypass Jones for Mackinnon\Drouin\Barkov

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03-12-2013, 06:02 PM
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It would be a very longshot. Shero has made it clear that his priority is signing Malkin & Letang before they get to free agency. They are part of the core here. They have enough talent in the pipeline to round out the D with young guys over the next few years when some of the bigger contracts expire so cap issues are unlikely. Depending on who pans out or gets traded Despres/Morrow/Pouliot/Harrington/etc. might make Letang redundant in a few years but it won't be next season.

Even if Shero did decide to move Letang I don't think he would do Letang for Yakupov. I think it would be more Eberle or Hall.
Three way:
Gaborik to Pens
Letang to Oilers
________ to Rangers

and it better be damn good or we'll keep Letang and the improved cap hit ourselves.

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03-12-2013, 06:05 PM
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Three way:
Gaborik to Pens
Letang to Oilers
________ to Rangers

and it better be damn good or we'll keep Letang and the improved cap hit ourselves.
Eberle for Letang?

Yesssss please

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03-12-2013, 06:07 PM
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This past draft they used their 32nd overall pick on an over ager goon. Obviously someone doesn't have a clue on what they're doing. It's a risk and it's not working out yet.
Or someone does not have a clue about who the Oilers actually drafted... funny though... irony really

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03-12-2013, 06:10 PM
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Three way:
Gaborik to Pens
Letang to Oilers
________ to Rangers

and it better be damn good or we'll keep Letang and the improved cap hit ourselves.
Letang for Gaborik is not happening. Ever. So if Letang were to be traded (which is unlikely to begin with), I doubt they Rangers will get to butt in on it.

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03-12-2013, 06:24 PM
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MacT can't find an NHL coaching job, might as well bring him back.
Howson gets fired and is quickly scooped up before the competition gets him.

This is the biggest problem with the oil.
Can't create something legendary with the same crappy cooks in the kitchen.
Need fresh faces and ideas in management, or we are in for more of the same.

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03-12-2013, 06:30 PM
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Get rid of their incompetent GM.
I'd start with this one

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03-13-2013, 05:06 PM
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It's all gonna get better now that Howson was recruited as a pro scout

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03-13-2013, 05:18 PM
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I am a Die hard Oilers fan . I love the skill they put together , but they are not scoring enough to make the playoffs .
Edmonton need a more offensive minded goalie.

Among the one available, Nabokov have already 3 assist this year.

i guess a 3rd could be enough.

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03-13-2013, 05:49 PM
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MacT can't find an NHL coaching job, might as well bring him back.
Howson gets fired and is quickly scooped up before the competition gets him.

This is the biggest problem with the oil.
Can't create something legendary with the same crappy cooks in the kitchen.
Need fresh faces and ideas in management, or we are in for more of the same.
...I'd not even heard about us rehiring Howson. WTF is this team doing? Until that dysfunction stops, we'll never get anywhere.

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03-13-2013, 05:55 PM
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This is why I love HFBoards

Brian Burke as GM of the Leafs - Everyone rants about how awful he is.

Brian Burke as a free agent on the market - Everyone is clamoring to have him come fix their team.

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Brian Burke as a free agent on the market - Everyone is clamoring to have him come fix their team.
It's probably because your "everyone" in both cases is a lie.

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03-13-2013, 06:40 PM
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They must grow some hair on their peaches.

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03-13-2013, 06:45 PM
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Three way:
Gaborik to Pens
Letang to Oilers
________ to Rangers

and it better be damn good or we'll keep Letang and the improved cap hit ourselves.
No way on Earth the Pens give up Letang for Gaborik. Not a chance.

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03-13-2013, 06:56 PM
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What's the identity of the Oilers? Skill? You can't win on skill alone. This is a team that traded away Stoll and Greene for Visnovsky, a team that now badly needs players like Stoll and Greene (not to mention they were homegrown).

They are weak in goal, on D and down the middle, Hall is the only one of their top guys who can play the gritty game and has the body to actually make it work. Until they start adding guys who are going to flat out outwork people and win puck battles they aren't winning anything.

Who's going to stop the Getzlafs, the Kopitars, the Thorntons, the Toews', the Backes' etc. from dominating them? Who on that team is going to force their way to the dirty areas and go up against the big defensmen? The reality is that is a soft team, and you can't win being soft, especially not in Western Conference with the big teams that will eat you up for breakfast.

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03-13-2013, 08:23 PM
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What's the identity of the Oilers? Skill? You can't win on skill alone. This is a team that traded away Stoll and Greene for Visnovsky, a team that now badly needs players like Stoll and Greene (not to mention they were homegrown).

They are weak in goal, on D and down the middle, Hall is the only one of their top guys who can play the gritty game and has the body to actually make it work. Until they start adding guys who are going to flat out outwork people and win puck battles they aren't winning anything.

Who's going to stop the Getzlafs, the Kopitars, the Thorntons, the Toews', the Backes' etc. from dominating them? Who on that team is going to force their way to the dirty areas and go up against the big defensmen? The reality is that is a soft team, and you can't win being soft, especially not in Western Conference with the big teams that will eat you up for breakfast.
That was pretty much the only thing I agree with. The Oil are not as soft as people think. We are constantly out hitting teams. But we have to hit other teams players because it is usually the other team that has the puck.

The Oilers have struggled with puck possession. And they lack the effort at times to get the puck from the corners and win battles.
It isn't so much size that we need, but tenacity and a great work ethic combined with some skill. Hossa is a great example. Although you can't just trade for a guy like Hossa.

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03-13-2013, 08:27 PM
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EDM needs some grinders to balance their team.

Bozak + MaCarthur + Grabovski + Kuleman

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Hall + Eberle

EDM gets a good #2 center, #3 center, they can draft a number 1 since they
will obviously finish dead last again and with Kuleman and Mac they get some good
balance.

Hall is risky with his shoulder and Eberle has come back down to earth so great deal for both.



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03-13-2013, 08:30 PM
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EDM needs some grinders to balance their team.

Bozak + MaCarthur + Grabovski + Kuleman

for

Hall + Eberle

EDM gets a good #2 center, #3 center, they can draft a number 1 since they
will obviously finish dead last again and with Kuleman and Mac they get some good
balance.

Hall is risky with his shoulder and Eberle has come back down to earth so great deal for both.
Forgot this

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03-13-2013, 09:39 PM
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EDM needs some grinders to balance their team.

Bozak + MaCarthur + Grabovski + Kuleman

for

Hall + Eberle

EDM gets a good #2 center, #3 center, they can draft a number 1 since they
will obviously finish dead last again and with Kuleman and Mac they get some good
balance.

Hall is risky with his shoulder and Eberle has come back down to earth so great deal for both.

That wouldn't even get you Hall, let alone both.

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03-13-2013, 09:41 PM
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The core is aging quickly. Time to rebuild.

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03-13-2013, 09:49 PM
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Blow it up, sort of. Trade RNH and trade Yakupov for a king's ransom and fill the holes on your team. Draft Mackinnon.

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EDM needs some grinders to balance their team.

Bozak + MaCarthur + Grabovski + Kuleman

for

Hall + Eberle

EDM gets a good #2 center, #3 center, they can draft a number 1 since they
will obviously finish dead last again and with Kuleman and Mac they get some good
balance.

Hall is risky with his shoulder and Eberle has come back down to earth so great deal for both.

Tambo is so stupid for not thinking of this!

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What must Edmonton do?

Well a start would be to get some real top four defense. They have 1/4, just need three more.

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03-13-2013, 10:18 PM
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Edmonton won't be trading away Hall, Ebs, Nuge, Yak or Schultz. That has been obvious and even our GM said it. Once these guys hit their prime, we will be a good team and all of them will be in their primes together. However, our bottom 6 and defence needs to be improved. We need to bring a top 2 defencemen, we need to bring in effective bottom 6 players that can score, bring grit and energy and shutdown other teams.

Our bottom 6 is so ineffective it's ridiculous. Brown is a good 4th line player. He needs to stay. As much as we hate on Horcoff, he also needs to stay. Jones is kind of up in the air. I would love to keep him but depends on his asking price. Belanger, Petrell, Smyth and maybe Hartikainnen need to be replaced.


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03-13-2013, 11:37 PM
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This past draft they used their 32nd overall pick on an over ager goon. Obviously someone doesn't have a clue on what they're doing. It's a risk and it's not working out yet.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=123846

The Oilers used their 32nd pick on a project power forward. Who did you think the Oilers drafted? Or maybe you don't know anything about Moroz, who wasn't an overager, nor a goon.

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