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03-13-2013, 04:32 PM
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Actually a Miller for Quick trade is not out of the realm of possibility. There costs are about the same.

a blockbuster type of trade would be:

TO LA: Miller, Regehr, Pominville
TO BUF, Quick, Brown. 2013 #2, young player (Toffoli???)
This deal truly sucks from an LA perspective. Not even close.

You won't find many if any at all from LA think that is even close to a fair deal.

No......just.......not even close.

The Kings won't move the playoff MVP goalie who should have won the Vezina last year as well along iwth its young cheap Captain who just had an incredible playoffs along with a high pick AND our best prospect for that mess.

Miller was great, was. Rehger is a rental who has lost a step and while I like Poms I don't love the guy to come even close to considering him anywhere near enough value to warrant either Quick or Brown let alone the rest.

Just a terrible one sided proposal that blows for the Kings.


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03-13-2013, 04:50 PM
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Kings have 9 D right now (including Mitchell and Greene hurt). Only two of those are impending UFA's....Drewiske and Scuderi (and they have been talking to Rob about re-signing).

So take that for what's it worth. 7 D under contract past this year and possibly one re-signing.

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03-13-2013, 04:51 PM
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Actually a Miller for Quick trade is not out of the realm of possibility. There costs are about the same.

a blockbuster type of trade would be:

TO LA: Miller, Regehr, Pominville
TO BUF, Quick, Brown. 2013 #2, young player (Toffoli???)
You're being too generous. Why don't the Kings also throw in Kopitar and Doughty just to even things up a little?

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03-13-2013, 04:54 PM
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John, that sounds kinda sad with 11 goals in 103 games as a King.

He's a scorer and does not bring much else to the table, aside from some physical play when is interested. We Kings fans are aready happy when he's active, lately he is, but lets not overreact.

Though, I would just keep him for the playoffs because he doesnt have much value.
He's been one of our best players for weeks. There's really no point in trading him.

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03-13-2013, 04:55 PM
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Actually a Miller for Quick trade is not out of the realm of possibility. There costs are about the same.

a blockbuster type of trade would be:

TO LA: Miller, Regehr, Pominville
TO BUF, Quick, Brown. 2013 #2, young player (Toffoli???)


This logic is out of the realm of possibility.

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03-13-2013, 04:58 PM
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Actually a Miller for Quick trade is not out of the realm of possibility. There costs are about the same.

a blockbuster type of trade would be:

TO LA: Miller, Regehr, Pominville
TO BUF, Quick, Brown. 2013 #2, young player (Toffoli???)
if a leafs fan would have proposed this atrocity huuuuhhh....no way kings would even consider this for 5 seconds...

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03-13-2013, 05:02 PM
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Kings need a top 6. I don't see it being defense.

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what would Buffalo need to get for Myers? Or is he untouchable?

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03-13-2013, 05:23 PM
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what would Buffalo need to get for Myers? Or is he untouchable?
Woah that'd do more harm than good for what we would give up sheesh.

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03-13-2013, 05:23 PM
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what would Buffalo need to get for Myers? Or is he untouchable?
That one, unless you're prepared to pay the ful sticker price on his potential. We have nothing even close to him in terms of potential on the blue line and would be dumb as **** to trade him while some other team is looking to "buy low" on one of the more intriguing/toolsy young defensemen in the game. If he pans out, there's no way we're winning a trade where we move him. If he doesn't, we're not losing anything other than a little cap space keeping him for a few years to find out.

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03-13-2013, 05:27 PM
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Kings need a top 6. I don't see it being defense.
Have you not seen the Kings' current defense? It's absolutely atrocious. Dean is almost certainly looking for a defenseman.

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03-13-2013, 05:38 PM
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Have you not seen the Kings' current defense? It's absolutely atrocious. Dean is almost certainly looking for a defenseman.
you forgot the

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Actually a Miller for Quick trade is not out of the realm of possibility. There costs are about the same.

a blockbuster type of trade would be:

TO LA: Miller, Regehr, Pominville
TO BUF, Quick, Brown. 2013 #2, young player (Toffoli???)
Quick > Miller
Brown = Pominville
Toffoli and a 2nd for Regehr?

Come on. Not even close.

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03-13-2013, 05:46 PM
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you forgot the
Not sarcastic at all. The Kings defense has been terrible by Kings standards. They have performed valiantly given the circumstances, but the bottom line is they are leaving the goalies out to dry far too often. Dean himself said that he is operating under the assumption that Greene and Mitchell are gone for the season. I would be very surprised if he isn't at least looking at other defensemen.

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Actually a Miller for Quick trade is not out of the realm of possibility. There costs are about the same.

a blockbuster type of trade would be:

TO LA: Miller, Regehr, Pominville
TO BUF, Quick, Brown. 2013 #2, young player (Toffoli???)
Seriously, Why do people continue commenting on an over the top deal like this. It's obvious that it would never happen. You don't ship out the reigning Conn Smythe winner and your Captain for arguably similar/lesser pieces.

So just ignore it and get back to more logical choices. Bernier, Regher, and other role players.

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03-13-2013, 06:08 PM
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"@Sfildes1: @DennisTFP any idea as to who they are talking about?" Have to think Regher, Kings gave 5 in PHX last night, need puck stopper
They have a puck stopper, he just needs to stop them (Quick).


I think it's Steve Ott that the Kings want. He's a guy that can play LW/C and has the ability to put up good #'s offensively.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was Penner ++ for Ott.

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03-13-2013, 06:10 PM
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what would Buffalo need to get for Myers? Or is he untouchable?
Myers is basically untouchable unless you offer full potential price.

Likely that would involve getting Kopitar and Bernier in return.

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They have a puck stopper, he just needs to stop them (Quick).


I think it's Steve Ott that the Kings want. He's a guy that can play LW/C and has the ability to put up good #'s offensively.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was Penner ++ for Ott.
I can think of few more angst-ridden positions in sports than a NHL goaltender. Holy smokes....

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Myers is basically untouchable unless you offer full potential price.

Likely that would involve getting Kopitar and Bernier in return.
Right.........

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Myers is basically untouchable unless you offer full potential price.

Likely that would involve getting Kopitar and Bernier in return.
Well that is ridiculous. Kopitar alone would be MASSIVE overpayment any way you look at it.

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03-13-2013, 06:15 PM
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Myers is basically untouchable unless you offer full potential price.

Likely that would involve getting Kopitar and Bernier in return.
Uhh, keep thinking that.

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03-13-2013, 06:16 PM
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Regehr has a no trade clause, worth mentioning.
NMC to be exact but thank you for mentioning this, as almost every poster in this thread forgot it.

I'd be very surprised if Regehr is moved to be honest. He has total control of what happens to him. It won't be easy to get him to waive again. I don't care if it's the Kings or not, Regehr's a family man and it'd take a lot to get him to move across the continent.

Also, Penner is of ZERO interest to Buffalo. Why is his name even coming up? Is Buffalo really interested in an upcoming UFA winger with extreme consistency issues when we're one of the worst teams in the League and won't sniff a playoff spot? Unless we're moving significant salary and Penner's coming back as a cap dump, he's not coming to Buffalo in a trade this year, period, so take him out of proposals involving the Sabres.

Unless Regehr doesn't want to re-sign with the Sabres, which is very unlikely, I personally don't want him moved and think we will make every attempt at re-signing him and he might even take a hometown discount to stay. Regehr could barely leave Calgary and the Sabres are a significantly worse team without him. He's shown that winning and money might not be what he's looking for. He's looking for comfort for his family as one of the first priorities and he has that in Buffalo. Highly doubtful he'd move them again unless it's something he really wants to do. If we won't be re-signing him, then I'm all for moving him for future assets but if he wants to stay, we'd be stupid not to keep him.

Now Stafford on the other hand should be on the block. I hope he's the guy the Kings want, not Regehr. Also, I agree that Regier never lets his plans out which is why I won't be surprised if this isn't true. The Sabres operate very tightly.

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Have you not seen the Kings' current defense? It's absolutely atrocious. Dean is almost certainly looking for a defenseman.
They allow 2.6 goals against a game. That's not bad when you consider that a team like the Ducks, one of the other hot teams in the league right now, allows 2.52 goals against per game.

I think too much is being made out of the "we need help defensively" stuff. When is Mitchell returning?

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They have a puck stopper, he just needs to stop them (Quick).


I think it's Steve Ott that the Kings want. He's a guy that can play LW/C and has the ability to put up good #'s offensively.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was Penner ++ for Ott.
The Kings may want Ott but they aren't getting him. He's not available. Aside from guys like Hodgson, Grigorenko, and Myers, Ott's the last player the Sabres will trade.

Again, Sabres have no interest in Penner. We're almost in dead last and he's a UFA in the summer. Makes ZERO sense for Buffalo. The Sabres will be sellers. We won't be buying anyone's UFAs. Absolute opposite of what a seller does.

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03-13-2013, 06:19 PM
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Have you not seen the Kings' current defense? It's absolutely atrocious. Dean is almost certainly looking for a defenseman.
We are in 4th. No one is gonna make a trade. Buffalo wants long term and the kings want short term. We would have to over pay, our defense is just fine just bone headed at times and quick is average right now. We aren't gonna trade forwards for a defense when we need forwards as well and it's the only thing that's scoring. If we trade forwards it's gonna be quantity for quality. Book it. If we get defense than I will be more than happen to say I'm wrong.

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