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03-13-2013, 01:55 PM
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Rangers Preds deal?

Gaborik + 3rd for Fisher, Blum, 1st and rights to Alex Radulov

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03-13-2013, 02:51 PM
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1. Valtteri Filppula
2. Ian White
3. Kyle Quincey (he's not huge, but 6'2" isn't "undersized" or anything; likes cross-checking people into the goal )
4. Tomas Jurco (still not quite ready for prime time, but will be soon)
2 UFA's, one meh contract and 1 prospect. the value is just not there.
How about:
Sproul + Tatar + 1st
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Jarnkrok + Jurco + 1st

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03-13-2013, 02:54 PM
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Crazy idea just popped into my head.

Campbell for gaborik? Thoughts?

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Crazy idea just popped into my head.

Campbell for gaborik? Thoughts?
No. Gaborik is the better player with the better contract.

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Crazy idea just popped into my head.

Campbell for gaborik? Thoughts?
Gaborik is likely to be dealt more so to free up some cap room than it is for anything else. Campbell doesn't help that. Plus we don't really want to take on that much term either.

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Rangers Preds deal?

Gaborik + 3rd for Fisher, Blum, 1st and rights to Alex Radulov

i like this but idk if NSH does this..

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i like this but idk if NSH does this..
As a fan, I'm okay with it. Radulov still has some value and I think would come back to the NHL under the right circumstances, I just don't think he's welcome back in Nashville at this point, so it's a decent throw-in.

Fisher is a popular player that the team really likes, but he's redundant with Legwand here and Austin Watson(who should be a better version of Fisher) coming up in the near future.

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03-13-2013, 03:19 PM
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2 UFA's, one meh contract and 1 prospect. the value is just not there.
How about:
Sproul + Tatar + 1st
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Jarnkrok + Jurco + 1st
Pretty easy no to both. That is an overpayment, and considering we had a rangers fan post something that took a lot less to get Gaborik to Detroit. I can guarantee you that Holland wouldn't trade Jarnkrok in a deal for anyone (within reason), they are the highest they've been on him since Zetterberg came along.

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2 UFA's, one meh contract and 1 prospect. the value is just not there.
How about:
Sproul + Tatar + 1st
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Jarnkrok + Jurco + 1st
You really just want prospects and a pick?

Ouelett + Jurco + 1st?

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Pretty easy no to both. That is an overpayment, and considering we had a rangers fan post something that took a lot less to get Gaborik to Detroit. I can guarantee you that Holland wouldn't trade Jarnkrok in a deal for anyone (within reason), they are the highest they've been on him since Zetterberg came along.
Datsyuk is 34, Franzen is 33, Zetterberg and Kronwall are 32, our window to win again will be closed to this core group in a matter of 3 seasons.

Trading some kids and a prospect for a player who would instantly rejuvenate our team offensively, possibly keep Datsyuk in town for an extension, and most of all allows us to contend for the cup once again would be worth everything.

And to say that Jarnkrok is safe from a trade with ANYONE is just madness.

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Datsyuk is 34, Franzen is 33, Zetterberg and Kronwall are 32, our window to win again will be closed to this core group in a matter of 3 seasons.

Trading some kids and a prospect for a player who would instantly rejuvenate our team offensively, possibly keep Datsyuk in town for an extension, and most of all allows us to contend for the cup once again would be worth everything.

And to say that Jarnkrok is safe from a trade with ANYONE is just madness.
So we keep on moving forward with an aging core, add another expensive contract, one that has to be resigned next offseason? We shouldn't trade anyone unless it helps us now AND in the future.

The Wings window to win was 07-11, we won once made it to the finals twice, made it to the conference finals in 07 and if it wasn't for some bounces would have made it to the Conference finals in 10 & 11.

In order to win Cups in the Salary cup era you have to have either a) Star players on ELCs b) Star players on bridge contracts c) You have a goalie get hot and have super depth/top 5 dman or d) good young players on ELCs to plug the holes around your stars. Right now we have FAR to much dead weight on this team to think about making a move for that "missing piece", we have more pressing issues than a goal scoring winger (Gaborik is one of the best though).

Our current core right now is:

Datsyuk: 34 going on 35, signed for 1 more year
Zetterberg: 32 going on 33, signed forever
Brunner: Just turned 27, FA this year
Franzen: 33, signed forever
Kronwall: 32, signed till 38
Ericsson: 29, signed for 1 more year
Smith: 24, RFA this year
Helm: 26, signed for 3 more years

Right now we are in no state to trade away any player that could be a 65-80 point center for the next decade, that goes for any of our top prospects. Unless we're trading them for a young high upside dman (how many of those are on the block?) we shouldn't move any of them until the time is right.

There will be some lean years as we once again try to pass the torch from one set of stars to hopefully another set. What we shouldn't do is trade away our only shot at keeping our future from looking like the Maple Leafs of old, or the current Flames, just to go for a feeble attempt to give it one last shot when we aren't close to being contenders. The only chance we have of going anywhere is if Datysuk goes into Phoenix playoff mode the whole run, Zetterberg is his typical self and Howard plays like Quick.

Also what happens if Datsyuk goes back home anyways, and Gaborik signs with another team? Now we are most definitely rebuilding and we traded away 3 top prospects for 1 1/2 years of pointlessness.

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03-14-2013, 12:48 PM
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I'd do Hornqvist, Ellis and a 1st.
you might. Nashville certainly wouldn't. I know I wouldn't

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Teams looking to win a stanley cup don't trade players who score 40 goals
maybe not. But they might look to trade a player who despite producing offense (albeit not consistently) abandons their team on defense

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They look about as good as the Kings did this time last year. Does that mean they do what LA did? No, but writing them off is premature, especially considering that they've actually been playing pretty well of late.
not exactly writing them off. having doubts since several teams are actually doing better despite having less talent. The Rags are starting to remind me of late 90's Isles who relied heavily on one or two players and when they couldn't perform the rest of the team spontaniously combusted

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They lost 4 in a row when Nash went down, that certainly did not help.

Rangers are 12-2-1 in their last 15 games with Nash.
they have the talent to win without Nash.
Lundqvist no doubt a top 10 goaltender.
D is perhaps 2nd best only to the Preds
good combination of youth and experience.

and yet a less talented team handed them their number the last time out

they lost in the conference finals last year for one reason. the Devils wanted it more.

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03-14-2013, 01:01 PM
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they lost in the conference finals last year for one reason. the Devils wanted it more.
Not because Gaborik had a bum shoulder?
Not because Girardi and McDonagh were out of gas? Staal and Sauer were injured most of the season, Girardi and McDonagh were the workhorses to replace them.
Not because the Rangers as whole ran out of gas, they played 2 7 game series prior to that, the Devils were fresher?


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