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07-28-2006, 05:48 PM
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I'd also like to say that I'd rather trade for Richards, if we're going to trade for a center from the Lightning.

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07-28-2006, 06:14 PM
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Does anyone else think we're about a year away from making an absolute HUGE move in aquiring a bonafide 1st line center?
Sather will make that trade within the year - as in "in the 2006-07 season" if he sees a chance to go for it this campaign, JP. For while all the futurists are pining for a roster of homegrown rookies, fact is, you are a team on the rise, not that far from true Cup contention as is. And you have some key "core" vets at their peak.

If NYR progresses during this upcoming season, and he senses a chance to strike, he'll look to add that guy, IMO. And I personally think he will have to, eventually, to get to the next level - I do not think your squad is strong enough down the middle, as currently constituted, to win a Cup.

That does not mean having to go out for VL or Richards per se (neither of whom is even on the market). But upgrading at your #1 (or at least #2) center spot, ideally with some size, for if/when you go up against the likes of Philly, TB, etc. in the playoffs. (Read: teams with major talent and/or size down the middle.) Not disparaging the likes of Nylander (though I am not a big fan of his type come post-season time), Cullen and Immonen, but IMO, that trio, alone, does not get it done come next spring.

But it's a long way from here to there.

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07-28-2006, 06:16 PM
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Sather will make that trade within the year - as in "in the 2006-07 season" if he sees a chance to go for it this campaign, JP. For while all the futurists are pining for a roster of homegrown rookies, fact is, you are a team on the rise, not that far from true Cup contention as is. And you have some key "core" vets at their peak.

If NYR progresses during this upcoming season, he'll look to add that guy, IMO. And I personally think he will have to, eventually, to get to the next level - I do not think your squad is strong enoug down the middle, as currently constituted, to win a Cup.

That does not mean having to go out for VL (who is not even on the market). But adding a solid depth centerman, ideally with some size, for if/when you go up against the likes of Philly, TB, etc. in the playoffs. (Read: teams with tlanet and size down at the pivot.) Not disparaging the likes of NYlander, Cullen and Immonen, but IMO, that, alone, does not get it done come next spring.

But it's a long way from here to there.

Just my opinion.
I agree completely.

I personally feel that Immonen will be moved within the year as part of a package to aquire a top tier center.

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07-28-2006, 06:45 PM
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I can't figure out what's more riduculous: Tampa trading Lecavalier (a key player in their Stanley Cup win) for a 2nd line center with inflated numbers, a #4 defenseman and prospects? Or us trading Lundqvist for anyone in the League?

Lundqvist has a Vezina caliber season before his injury, wins a Gold medal. Prucha scores 30 goals. Great, time to trade them for "Bigger Names" because guys in Hartford who haven't even siniffed the NHL might be better. How did trading Savard work out because York might be "better"? How about Cloutier, Sundstrom? Kim Johnsson was traded for an established #1 center. Zidlicky for a #1 goalie. Norstrom for a HOFamer. Let's not even talk about Zubov. He was traded for an All-Star in Robitaille. That one certainly worked out well.

Good teams don't get better by trading away their key players. They get better by adding to their home-grown core. It's the only way real teams are built. Unless one wants to go back to collecting All-Stars and missing the play-offs.

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I can't figure out what's more riduculous: Tampa trading Lecavalier (a key player in their Stanley Cup win) for a 2nd line center with inflated numbers, a #4 defenseman and prospects? Or us trading Lundqvist for anyone in the League?

Lundqvist has a Vezina caliber season before his injury, wins a Gold medal. Prucha scores 30 goals. Great, time to trade them for "Bigger Names" because guys in Hartford who haven't even siniffed the NHL might be better. How did trading Savard work out because York might be "better"? How about Cloutier, Sundstrom? Kim Johnsson was traded for an established #1 center. Zidlicky for a #1 goalie. Norstrom for a HOFamer. Let's not even talk about Zubov. He was traded for an All-Star in Robitaille. That one certainly worked out well.

Good teams don't get better by trading away their key players. They get better by adding to their home-grown core. It's the only way real teams are built. Unless one wants to go back to collecting All-Stars and missing the play-offs.
I totally agree with you.

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Michael Nylander had 4 more points than Vinny.
Of all the comparisons, this is the least applicable. Do you really think that Nylander is a better player than Vinny? How many points would Vinny have had if he has Jagr as a linemate?

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Does anyone else think we're about a year away from making an absolute HUGE move in aquiring a bonafide 1st line center?
I think it's inevitable. Especially as kids begin to blossom and the Rangers get a better idea of what they've got.

This is where the depth they are developing will be key.

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07-28-2006, 08:44 PM
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Who do you guys think the 1st-line center will be? Do you think one more first-round exit by Tampa Bay next year forces Feaster to trade Vinny?

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This is where the depth they are developing will be key.
I believe that the key is that the depth continue to develop and take steps forward. That will allow a such a trade.

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I believe that the key is that the depth continue to develop and take steps forward. That will allow a such a trade.
Agreed, TB.

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I believe that the key is that the depth continue to develop and take steps forward. That will allow a such a trade.
very true. this is why it's a bit to early to be making such a deal. A year from now we'll have a much better idea about whose a keeper, whose gonna bust and whose going to develop but is expendable (or who is expendable because someone else developed.)

you do it now and your still kind of shooting blind.

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very true. this is why it's a bit to early to be making such a deal. A year from now we'll have a much better idea about whose a keeper, whose gonna bust and whose going to develop but is expendable (or who is expendable because someone else developed.)

you do it now and your still kind of shooting blind.
One of the many reasons that patience is the name of the game for this season. No need to rush out and make a big-name trade (with the caveat that such a trade is such a no-brainer that it has to be done) that will paralyze the cap. Especially since the UFA age is lowered to 27 next year (Kyle Calder anyone?) and 26 the year after that.

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07-30-2006, 09:16 AM
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Vinny

is a stud for sure. We are not 1 player away from winning the cup , we are developing a team to contend for the cup for years to come . I don't see how he fits into that plan considering what it would cost to get him even if he were available.

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