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03-14-2013, 06:37 PM
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Discussion: Should Tampa Bay Re-Address Their Goaltending?

Tampa Bay has the 8th best goal differential in the league (+7, only non playoff team thats positive)

27th in the league for goals against

2nd in the league for goals for

Lindbacks save % is .899 (.902 ev strength).

Should Stevie Y be addressing his goaltending, and make a push for the playoffs?
Should he wait until the offseason to address goaltending?
Should he stick with Lindback and see if he can pan out?

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03-14-2013, 06:40 PM
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I think the defense in Tampa is equally as atrocious. Too many aging vets where the game is passing them by.

Tampa should target Luongo.

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TB refused Luongo on philosophical grounds. Thier team model does not have room for a thirty four year old goalie with a ten year contract.


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Maybe they should target Cam Ward and let Carolina target Lu/Schneider.

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It would be a mistake to give up on a 24 year old goaltender who has been a starter for only 18 games in his NHL career and has recently played much better.

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TB refused Luongo on philosophical grounds. Thier team model does not have room for a thirty four year old goalie with a ten year contract.

In B4 troll lock.
Doesn't neccessarily have to be Luongo.
Obviously hes (theoretically) the best/most available.

But with rumours of Miller being available, Kipper could be had if Calgary rebuilds, Philly may move Bryz for cheap etc.

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TB refused Luongo on philosophical grounds. Thier team model does not have room for a thirty four year old goalie with a ten year contract.

In B4 troll lock.
They could really use him now though, and Luo said he wants to play in Florida. Tampa is close enough to Miami/Sunrise for him to accept a trade.

Don't think it will happen though

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TB refused Luongo on philosophical grounds. Thier team model does not have room for a thirty four year old goalie with a ten year contract.
Yet they have room for another monstrosity contract that hasn't lived up to his salary at all. If they buy out Lecavalier, and I can't see why on earth they wouldn't, then they should have the cap room to take on Luongo and a few other pieces.


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Not impressed with Lindback at all. I dont think hell be a good starting goalie in the NHL

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Schneider for Connolly

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Something around this work?



Jonathan Bernier
Alec Martinez
Brad Richardson



Teddy Purcell
Mathieu Garon
2nd - 4th round pick'14

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When he played for Nashville he looked amazing. What's changed? Could it be the defense in front of him?

I haven't seen 1 tampa game; I can imagine his confidence has been rocked, but has he let in a lot of softies or something?

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Surely their pathetic defense has something to do with it, no? I don't think Lindback will be winning any Vezinas but very few goaltenders will look good behind that group.

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Schneider for Connolly
I have been thinking

Schneider + Ballard
For
Purcell + Thompson + Ohlund (for $ purposes and retirement purposes).

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Only solid d man is hedman. Salo is always injured,brewer has been bad, carle isn't exactly the safest guy in his own end, lee and bergeron suck.

So you just can't blame the goalie. They just need to draft some good young d-men this year and bring Vasiljevski over in few years

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I have been thinking

Schneider + Ballard
For
Purcell + Thompson + Ohlund (for $ purposes and retirement purposes).

Ohlund sucks.

Purcell would fit on Vancouver's 4th line and 3rd line if injuries persist. zero upside there.

I don't think Vancouver would flip Schneider for Purcell.

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Surely their pathetic defense has something to do with it, no? I don't think Lindback will be winning any Vezinas but very few goaltenders will look good behind that group.
In all fairness, Tampa is giving up nearly identical shots as Nashville last year.

And Rinne is puttin up identical save % behind what (minus Weber) is a pretty weak defense.
(Mind you Rinne is the #1/2 goalie in the world).

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Ohlund sucks.

Purcell would fit on Vancouver's 4th line and 3rd line if injuries persist. zero upside there.

I don't think Vancouver would flip Schneider for Purcell.
Ohlunds knees are ruined and likely is done playing.

Purcell has as many assists as Henrik.

Thompson is also a heavy lifting 3C we lack

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In all fairness, Tampa is giving up nearly identical shots as Nashville last year.

And Rinne is puttin up identical save % behind what (minus Weber) is a pretty weak defense.
(Mind you Rinne is the #1/2 goalie in the world).
Not to nit-pick your posts but do you really think the scoring chances to shots taken are similar too? Nashville plays a very structured game defensively. To compare shot totals is reaching.

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In all fairness, Tampa is giving up nearly identical shots as Nashville last year.

And Rinne is puttin up identical save % behind what (minus Weber) is a pretty weak defense.
(Mind you Rinne is the #1/2 goalie in the world).
Like I said, I'm not pretending that Lindback is doing himself any favors, but Schneider or Bernier or any other goalie Tampa has any chance of acquiring is not going to single handedly change things. No goaltender short of Lundqvist or Rinne would have a chance behind that group.

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Ohlunds knees are ruined and likely is done playing.

Purcell has as many assists as Henrik.

Thompson is also a heavy lifting 3C we lack
Thompson is a dime a dozen player. Not to mention he plays on one of the worst defensive teams in the league - who's to say he's a good fit here? I doubt he plays ahead of Lapierre to be honest. You don't package him to Vancouver when Schneider is heading the other way. More value please you're reaching for weak players.

Purcell may have as many assists as henrik but let's not pretend he has the playmaking skills as Henrik.

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Not to nit-pick your posts but do you really think the scoring chances to shots taken are similar too? Nashville plays a very structured game defensively. To compare shot totals is reaching.
Advanced stats geek will tell you that shot quantity plays the biggest factor.

A good team defensively will limit shot totals, and over a large enough sample (say 1000 shots) shot quality will regress to an average quality.

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Alec Martinez
Brad Richardson



Teddy Purcell
Mathieu Garon
2nd - 4th round pick'14
no ur under valuing bernier and martinez alot. I would however be sorta interested in garon for richardson Should bernier gets traded somewhere. Purcell was giving opportunity here and couldnt find chemistry on a scoring line I doubt the trade for him back,

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Hiller and Miller could be options in the offseason. Can't really see the Sabres moving Miller but you never know.

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Advanced stats geek will tell you that shot quantity plays the biggest factor.

A good team defensively will limit shot totals, and over a large enough sample (say 1000 shots) shot quality will regress to an average quality.
Those statistics are fluff to me. They don't take in to account who is shooting, if it's on the rush, if it's a one-timer and how much time the player has to take the shot.

Simply put. Nashville plays a very structured game that doesn't allow for free flowing offense. You can bring up a graph that shows where all the shots are taken but it really doesn't mean anything.

Defensively Nashville>>>>>>Tampa Bay and that will help Rinne's stats to some extent.

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