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03-14-2013, 07:47 PM
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I am currently keeping track of people who don't care about the problem I posted numerous times about the wildcard system. When they ***** and moan when their favorite team gets screwed by winning their division and facing a tougher team than the second place team in their division's opponent, I'll show them their post.
I saw you complaining about how no one was paying attention to this problem in the BoH thread. Meanwhile, I posted the same scenario on the page before the first time you put it up, it was discussed, we moved on. Not anyone's fault that you didn't bother reading what came before.

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Vancouver would still be CONFERENCE rivals with Edmonton and Calgary, if they went to the Pacific. They would play them 4 times a year. Under this new system, how many times will VAN play EDM/CAL? FOUR TIMES A YEAR! They aren't building rivalries, most teams are playing their main rivals less!

Every rival does not have to be in the same division under the current format. BOS/PHI is a good one. PIT/WAS is great. CHI/VAN out West has been heated for years. Not only that, but you play a ton within your division and the games get really nasty. That's why it worked so well. But no. Let's scrap it because Detroit is whining. The NHL didn't invent time zones. Up until now, they drew a line between the 30 teams. The 15 to the east were in the East. The 15 to the west were in the West. Yea, it created a couple problems, but the solution to that is not to come up with some ridiculous format that solves a couple problems for a couple teams and creates more for everybody else.

When we get through next year and realize we go months without seeing the Flyers, or Isles, or Devils... you'll understand why this absolutely blows. Enjoy your Jackets/Rangers games! WOW! Bad blood there.
The rivalry building is about the playoffs. Personally, I think they need to tweak the wild card by reseeding crossovers and only implementing the crossover rules when the top 8 in the conf don't match the top 4 in the divisions. Also at issue is the fact, and it is a fact, that 6 division alignments are near impossible to schedule when the demand of the WC teams is for games against every team in the league. You either lose games against your division rivals or you lose them against the conference rivals.

Bos/Phi, Chi/Van. These are rivalries bred by the playoffs. There will be others that are just as good. They'll just be within the division instead of with the conference.

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ryan bodog scored off of a nice pass against pitt.

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Dougie Hamilton got *****ed on that play.

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I saw you complaining about how no one was paying attention to this problem in the BoH thread. Meanwhile, I posted the same scenario on the page before the first time you put it up, it was discussed, we moved on. Not anyone's fault that you didn't bother reading what came before.
Really? Because you posted it on March 8th.

I posted it on:

February 27th Twice

I guess I should check threads over a week from when I post something to see if there's a bigger conversation on what I was talking about.

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Wow Pitt getting shut out half way thru third. oh boy for saturday. haha

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I really hope Bernier stays in the West.

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watch the Devils trade for him they have the depth to do it..

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i see that other teams are having scrums on a regular basis. when was the last time NYR had one?? maybe that will help them become a better team.. they arent the physical team this used to be.. Rangers do miss guys like Dubinsky Prust.... i want a Matt Beleskey/Kyle Cifford type player.... Rangers are too bland and no personality...

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i see that other teams are having scrums on a regular basis. when was the last time NYR had one?? maybe that will help them become a better team.. they arent the physical team this used to be.. Rangers do miss guys like Dubinsky Prust.... i want a Matt Beleskey/Kyle Cifford type player.... Rangers are too bland and no personality...
Haley vs. Hartnell the other week. lol

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Haley vs. Hartnell the other week. lol
Rangers need more of that..... Rangers bottom in fights and out of the playoffs.... last year top in league in fights and one of the better teams in the NHL... i think its a sign...

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i see that other teams are having scrums on a regular basis. when was the last time NYR had one?? maybe that will help them become a better team.. they arent the physical team this used to be.. Rangers do miss guys like Dubinsky Prust.... i want a Matt Beleskey/Kyle Cifford type player.... Rangers are too bland and no personality...
I agree with you. It's really frustrating to watch the team get pushed around all over the ice.

When Rick Nash is the guy that goes over to Wheeler after he shoots the puck after an offsides whistle you've got issues.

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THE EX RANGERS in 2013 (and "the one" that could´ve been)...
PosNameTeamGPGAPts+/-PIMTOICaphit Year left NYRReason
FW PA Parenteau Colorado 26 12 15 27 +1 30 18:59$4,000,0002010 UFA walked
FW Jaromir Jagr Dallas 25 10 8 18 -2 18 18:15$4,550,0002008 UFA walked
FW Vinny Prospal Columbus 28 9 6 15 -1 20 16:32$2,500,0002011 UFA walked
D Fedor Tyutin Columbus 28 1 13 14 -5 18 24:41$4,500,0002008 Trade for Zherdev (who walked)
FW John Malkin Mitchell Colorado 25 8 5 13 +9 10 16:42$1,100,0002012 UFA walked
FW Vladimir TarasenkoSt Louis 17 6 6 12 -1 8 14:01$1,750,0002010 Marty McFly time machine pls hm
FW Lauri Korpikoski Phoenix 27 6 5 11 +0 6 17:29$1,800,0002009 Trade for Lisin (who walked)
FW Brandon Prust Montreal 25 4 5 9 +13 81 13:45$2,500,0002012 UFA walked
FW Brandon DubinskyColumbus 17 1 8 9 -4 39 18:14$4,200,0002012 Trade for Nash
FW Artem Anisimov Columbus 20 6 2 8 -6 8 16:45$1,850,0002012 Trade for Nash
FW Wojtek Wolski Washington 23 4 4 8 -1 6 14:23$600,000 2012 Trade for 3rd rounder in 2013
FW Ruslan FedotenkoPhiladelphia 28 1 7 8 +6 10 12:05$1,750,0002012 UFA walked
D Michal RozsivalChicago 14 0 7 7 +11 12 16:46$2,000,0002011 Trade for Wolski
FW Scott Gomez San Jose 20 2 5 7 -6 10 14:15$700,000 2009 Trade McD
D Tomas KundratekWashington 25 1 6 7 -5 8 16:08$816,666 2012 Trade for Bouchard (walked)
FW Alex Kovalev Florida* 14 2 3 5 -1 6 15:31$1,450,0002004 Trade for 2nd rounder (Bruce Graham = bust)
D Tim Erixon Columbus 20 0 4 4 +4 12 16:01$1,750,0002012 Trade for Nash
D Wade Redden St Louis 17 2 2 4 -2 11 15:09$1,000,0002013 Buyout
FW Mike Rupp Minnesota 25 1 3 4 +0 36 8:15$1,500,0002013 Traded for Powe + Palmieri
D Bobby SanguinettiCarolina 21 1 3 4 -3 4 14:59$700,000 2010Trade for 2nd rounder (=>Nash)
FW Dale WeiseVancouver 26 1 3 4 -3 41 9:12 $615,0002011 Waived
FW Roman Horak Calgary 6 1 1 2 -1 2 12:28$800,000 2011 Trade for Erixon (=>Nash)
D Corey Potter Edmonton 16 0 0 0 -3 4 16:09 $775,000 2010UFA walked
FW JAM Columbus 2 0 0 0 -1 0 10:56$925,000 2012 UFA walked

* - bought out

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THE CURRENT 2013 NEW YORK RANGERS
PosNameGPGAPts+/-PIMTOIPP TOI PP pointsCap hitRoad to NYR
FW Rick Nash 22 9 14 23 +10 22 20:5375:156$7,800,000Traded for 4 assets 2012...
FW Derek Stepan 26 7 11 18 +8 8 20:5178:186$875,000Drafted R2 #51 (2008)
FW Marian Gaborik26 8 9 17 -4 6 18:5380:296$7,500,000 UFA signed 2009
FW Carl Hagelin 26 7 8 15 +5 12 17:5334:581$875,000Drafted R6 #168 (2007)
FW Brad Richards24 4 11 15 +1 8 19:3887:062$6,666,667 UFA signed 2011
FW Ryan Callahan23 9 4 13 +0 6 21:1377:475$4,275,000Drafted R4 #127 (2004)
D Ryan McDonagh 25 2 9 11 +2 8 24:1112:411$1,300,000Traded for Scott Gomez 2009
D Marc Staal 21 2 9 11 +4 14 24:2721:563$3,975,000 Drafted R1 #12 (2005)
D Michael Del Zotto24 2 8 10 +3 12 22:3273:344$2,550,000 Drafted R1 #20 (2008)
D Dan Girardi 24 1 8 9 -2 10 24:4246:070$3,325,000Signed undrafted NYR 2005
FW Taylor Pyatt 26 4 2 6 +3 4 15:0831:471$1,550,000UFA signed 2012
D Anton Stralman26 3 2 5 +4 8 17:5433:390$1,700,000UFA signed 2011
FW J.T. Miller 18 2 2 4 -1 4 13:2427:332$1,244,167Drafted R1 #15 (2011)
FW Chris Kreider11 1 1 2 +0 6 10:2210:230$1,325,000Drafted R1 #19 (2009)
FW Brian Boyle 22 2 1 2 -7 19 13:564:250$1,700,000Traded for 3rd rounder in 2009
FW Arron Asham 12 0 1 1 +1 17 6:120:000$1,000,000UFA signed 2012
FW Jeff Halpern 26 0 1 1 -4 8 9:270:000$700,000UFA signed 2012
D Roman Hamrlik 7 0 1 1 -1 4 13:050:42 0$3,500,000Waiver pickup 2013
D Steve Eminger 13 0 1 1 +0 2 10:290:200$750,000UFA signed 2012
FW Benn Ferriero 4 0 1 1 +0 0 9:361:450$700,000Traded for Chad Kolarik in 2013
FW D. Powe 23 0 0 0 -1 17 9:381:520$1,066,667Traded for Mike Rupp in 2013
D Matt Gilroy 14 0 0 0 -3 2 10:001:240$650,000UFA signed 2012
D/FW Stu Bickel 16 0 0 0 -2 49 5:310:000$750,000Traded for Nigel Williams in 2010
FW Micheal Haley1 6 0 0 +0 12 6:550:10 0$600,000UFA signed 2012
FW Brandon Mashinter 4 0 0 0 -2 0 5:550:00 0$550,000Traded for Tommy Grant in 2013
FW Christian Thomas 1 0 0 0 +0 0 12:461:35 0$970,000Drafted R2 #40 (2010)
FW Brandon Segal 1 0 0 0 +0 2 5:210:000$550,000UFA signed 2012
FW Kris Newbury 1 0 0 0 +0 7 5:000:00 0$600,000UFA signed 2012


7 game series
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Ranger Boy, Da Goon, Bernmeister & Myself get to coach the X-SQUAD

Seriously ---
Who would win?

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03-15-2013, 10:57 AM
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Still irks me they just let Parenteau walk. Same thing will happen with MZA in the not-so-distant future

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Still irks me they just let Parenteau walk. Same thing will happen with MZA in the not-so-distant future
The problem with PAP was that he had an entitlement issue. He was never able to earn a spot on the team in Chicago, and the same thing happened here. He thought his play in the AHL would earn him a spot on the roster out of camp, and it never happened. Renney hated guys like that and so does Torts.

The best thing that ever happened to him was winding up on a team with little competition at his position, and very low expectations as an organization. He made the best of it and he's doing well for himself now.

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03-15-2013, 12:15 PM
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I really want to see Hugh Jessiman play a game with the Rangers. Is there something wrong with me?

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I really want to see Hugh Jessiman play a game with the Rangers. Is there something wrong with me?
he couldnt make a bad Panthers team although he played 2 games in the NHL with them. i hope that scouting staff is gone.... he has to be the biggest bust in Rangers draft history. im shocked Jessiman didnt retire yet... i know i wouldnt want to be known as the 2003 first round bust

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he couldnt make a bad Panthers team although he played 2 games in the NHL with them. i hope that scouting staff is gone.... he has to be the biggest bust in Rangers draft history. im shocked Jessiman didnt retire yet... i know i wouldnt want to be known as the 2003 first round bust
I wouldn't mind it.

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IMO, they will make a trade. They have too many NHL pieces.

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Didn't realize San Jose had moved Burns back to RW for the last few games. Seems to be doing pretty well there. Perhaps we should move Boyle back to the blueline.

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Call something that helps us next time.

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