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03-14-2013, 06:02 PM
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Two way puck moving dman on a cheap salary to add to the dcore for a playoff push...
Stewart is the Blues leading scorer we need a top pairing guy in return for it to make sense. If it is not that guy we need another piece that addresses a real need as well. Think of Despres + Sutter. If that is to high for you then I don't really know what to say.


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03-14-2013, 06:05 PM
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I would love Stewart but am nervous as his value is very high right now. I would rather keep Kulemin and add a player with toughness to our shutdown line. Maybe someone like Clowe. I think MacArthur and Gunnarsson being left side players are our best trade chips.

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Actually, considering the Blues needs he's right. We don't need another puck mover who is soft in the defensive zone. We need a big, defensive defenseman who is at least remotely capable of moving the puck ala Coburn.
Pretty sure he was taking exception to Kulemin, not Liles.

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03-14-2013, 06:08 PM
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Stewart is the Blues leading scorer we need a top pairing guy in return for it to make sense.
Niskanen played top pair here for stretches and for some complete unknown reason (Blysma's idiotic constant shuffling of dmen), was taken off the top pair, even though he looked steady and fantastic there. Same thing has happened with Despres even though the kid flat out is NHL top 4 ready... He is ridding the pine? Makes no sense. But Niskanen has shown he is capable of top pairing assignments, being the #2 beside P'Jo he would do just as well as he did as the #2 beside Letang.

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Stewart
Cole

for

Gardiner or Gunnarson+2nd
Kulemin
If Cole was right handed, in a second for the bolded package. Would have to think about the Gardiner one.

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03-14-2013, 06:11 PM
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Stewart is the Blues leading scorer we need a top pairing guy in return for it to make sense. If it is not that guy we need another piece that addresses a real need as well. Think of Despres + Sutter. If that is to high for you then I don't really know what to say.
Depres + Sutter? Shero hangs up the phone while laugh then walking out of his office to make everyone else in the head office laugh when he mentions that phone call.

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Depres + Sutter? Shero hangs up the phone while laugh then walking out of his office to make everyone else in the head office laugh when he mentions that phone call.
Cool. Why would we want to trade Stewart for anything short of overpayment anyway?

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03-14-2013, 06:36 PM
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No thanks from a leafs perspective, and i'd rather have Perry and Kessel as my #1 and #2 RW's over Perry and Stewart any day, but that obviously depends on Perry signing in Toronto and not elsewhere.



Macarthur, Lupul and JVR are all LW's I believe, and Frattin plays on the 3rd line with Kadri so Stewart would slot in on the 2nd line RW perfectly.


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He'd be the 3rd-4th best winger. Stewart is better than Frattin/MacArthur.

He'd be right after Kessel, Lupul..and JvR and Stewart switch around.
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My best bet would be Frattin.
I like Stewart my problem is I heard rumors about his work ethic being a big question mark and I wonder if Carlyle would like that. Then again it is rumors so it could be nothing but still something I wonder about.

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Frattin

JVR Bozak Kessel

Lupul, Kadri Stewart,

Macarthur Grabovski Frattin would be our top 9 IMO



Frattin works his best with Kadri so he would most likely be put on his wing. Also Grabovski as a 3rd line C seems like a waste to me. 5.5 million for that he becomes our Horcoff.

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03-14-2013, 06:40 PM
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Liles has no value at all for his contract to the Blues. You need to add at least someone good to the deal......
3.8M is not worth a 40 point PMD? Carlyle is just using him wrong.

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03-14-2013, 06:43 PM
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3.8M is not worth a 40 point PMD? Carlyle is just using him wrong.
Not to the Blues when we have Pietrangelo and Shattenkirk who are better puck movers and better defensively as well. Liles really doesn't fit what the Blues need.

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03-14-2013, 06:46 PM
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Not to the Blues when we have Pietrangelo and Shattenkirk who are better puck movers and better defensively as well. Liles really doesn't fit what the Blues need.
Okay, I can understand that, he doesn't have value to the Blues then. Liles does have value to teams though.

So the Blues are looking for a safe defenseman that makes a good first pass and skates well?

If that's the guys the Blues are looking for, Armstrong must be scouting Gunnar.

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03-14-2013, 06:52 PM
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Liles has no value at all for his contract to the Blues. You need to add at least someone good to the deal......
Wpuld you guys have interest in Carter Ashton?

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Were the reports directly speculating Stewart for Kulemin + ? I had heard the Blues were taking offers for Stewart but were looking for a top 4 D to pair with Pietrangelo in return. It's possible Toronto has that D but maybe not. The interest in Kulemin may be separate from the Stewart situation.
What Darren Dreger stated was that St. Louis is expecting a big return by dangling a player like Stewart and that the Blues have been looking for a defenseman since the start of the year and had some interest in a depth forward like Kulemin since he'd fit into Ken Hitchcock's system.

From my interpretation he never explicitly states Stewart for Kulemin.

Link to the actual Dreger interview


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Liles would be a horrible fit for the Blues. Liles is the type of d-man that needs to play a lot of minutes to be involved offensively and get a lot of PP time (he's a PP specialist) he's not even getting that chance in TO he won't get it playing behind Pitreangelo and Shattenkirk.

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I would love Stewart as a net pressence to team with JVR. Does he play right or left wing? We need to dump a winger though as we already have a bunch even if Kulemin+ is going the other way.


LW

JVR
Mac
Komarov
McClemment
McIntyre

RW
Lupul
Stewart
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Frattin
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03-14-2013, 09:39 PM
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Stewart
Cole

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Gardiner or Gunnarson+2nd
Kulemin
Gardiner > Gunnarsson + 2nd.

I would do think hard about this though. Cole would be pretty awesome.

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03-14-2013, 09:41 PM
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Stewart is the Blues best scoring forward this season. Normal media trying to create a story. How often does a playoff team trade their top scoring forward for a downgrade that will not be an UFA?
Lol, I don't think Dreger would just make this up for no reason..

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Lol, I don't think Dreger would just make this up for no reason..
I agree. Even though Dreger's recent track record hasn't been the greatest, I'm sure everything he puts up has some sort of traction to it.

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Trading Stewart right now would be one of the stupidest things a Blues GM could do right now. He's easily been the hottest player as of late and every line hes been on has had a lot of success. He's carrying this team right now.

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Ugh, Chris Stewart isn't going anywhere. I hate this stupid speculation that makes zero sense for the American team that Dreger or whoever else in Canada talks about to drum up ratings in Canada by talking about a Canadian team acquiring a great player.

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It would be interesting to trade Kulemin for him. I'd do it. I'd even throw Liles if they want him but not sure if they want his salary.

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Lol, I don't think Dreger would just make this up for no reason..
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I agree. Even though Dreger's recent track record hasn't been the greatest, I'm sure everything he puts up has some sort of traction to it.
It was first speculated by a writer in STL that most people have very little trust in. Most of the stuff he writes about is random hopefully speculation similar to what you see on here from a lot of posters. Dreger read a story from him and is now running with it.

I do not think Dreger would just make stuff up either but he is getting his info from a source with little credibility.

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Traction to what exactly? He's heard that Stewart's name was "out there", he knows the Blues have been in the market for a top 4 defenseman, and he heard that there was interest at one point in Kulemin (probably when the Blues lost an entire line of forwards with no idea if/when they would return).

He never once said that heard that any of those individual points were directly connected, and he even went on to say that Stewart might be nothing more than a dialogue opener with teams just to see what's out there.

He threw out three independent points, and fans are trying to draw a straight line between them.

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I'm sure Dreger is right when he says Nonis has 'interest'. just as 28 other gms have interest . doesn't mean it's a rumor or an imminent trade.

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Yeah looked again.

Leafs don't have the assets to add to kulemin ; considering what I THINK STL fans will expect.....this might as well stop here. Will likely go nowhere, because people will expect us to add a high end prospect or pick to Kulemin for the overachiever.(which isn't necessarily a bad thing, we just aren't in the position to pay what they think he is worth)
If you need a Stewart type and STL is looking for a Dman, you have the asset to deal - it just depends on how much you want Stewart.

Kulemin for Stewart does STL no good. Liles has negative value. You won't like it, but Gardiner for Stewart. It's not like your organization seems to value Gardiner right now, otherwise he would be up playing.

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