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Canucks Aggressively Pursuing Trade (Interested in Steve Ott & Derek Roy)

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03-14-2013, 10:49 PM
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A Roy-Jagr package would be of major interest to me.

Schroeder + Ballard + 1st conditional on Roy re-signing or it becomes a 2nd?

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03-14-2013, 10:51 PM
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A Roy-Jagr package would be of major interest to me.

Schroeder + Ballard + 1st conditional on Roy re-signing or it becomes a 2nd?
I see absolutely no incentive for Dallas to accept that.

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I forsee no scenario where Roy signs anywhere to be a third line center.
Eh, our 2nd best center right now is Ebbett. He'd have the #2C spot all to himself. And upon Kesler's return, a 2nd line of Roy - Kesler - Booth looks really good.

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I see absolutely no incentive for Dallas to accept that.
True enough. Dallas fans seemed really down on their players, thought I might take advantage of that. What would Dallas fans want for Roy + Jagr?

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They're gonna end up with a Val Filpulla just cause he fits in as well as anyone they could land. They should be going after a little more playoff muscle but who am I to suggest.

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03-14-2013, 10:57 PM
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Vancouver and Philly are probably the best trade partners in the league right now.

Would not be at all surprised to see Couturier in Vancouver by the deadline. Possibly Briere.
If you want a PMD, our only decent one is Edler, and for that he'd cost the moon.

Though I'd love to see Briere as a Canuck. Absolutely love.

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I see absolutely no incentive for Dallas to accept that.
If Dallas decides to re-tool if they're worried about losing Roy + other UFAs to free agency, it's a possibility.

My crazy, unrealistic offer:
Schroeder, Booth, Weise, Ballard, cond. 1st*, and 2013 2nd for Roy, Jagr, Morrow, and Robidas.

*Condition being the Canucks make the conference finals, otherwise it becomes a our 2014 2nd round pick.

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David Desharnais is available acording to me. Midget but great vision and plays with passion, can play against tough opposition. His perfect role would be third liner. Habs could use Galchenyuk as the third line center like they did half the year in the Prust - Galch - Gallagher third line. Eller is ready to take over second line duty.

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A Roy-Jagr package would be of major interest to me.

Schroeder + Ballard + 1st conditional on Roy re-signing or it becomes a 2nd?
Roy and Jagr?

Jensen + Schroeder/1st.

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Why the hell do we want Weise?

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Vancouver 1st for Steve Ott
Niklas Jensen for Derek Roy

Then, move Schneider for picks/prospects to restock our youth.
Ya it could be possible Ott for a 1st, but that still is overpayment like Gaustad for a 1st. No chance on Jensen for Roy, just terrible. I'm sorry Dallas didnt mean to get your hopes up.

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Roy and Jagr?

Jensen + Schroeder/1st.
No thanks. Jagr could have been had by anyone in the offseason who was willing to pay the most. Dallas overplayed the most. Roy is exactly opposite for what Gillis wants for this team, in fact this wasn't even a player rumoured to be linked to Canucks, but rather a suggestion by Bob Mckenzie.

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Roy and Jagr?

Jensen + Schroeder/1st.
I don't think we'd move Jensen except for in a package for a star player. How much for just Jagr?

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Vancouver 1st for Steve Ott
Niklas Jensen for Derek Roy

Then, move Schneider for picks/prospects to restock our youth.
Nooo no no no nooooo noo nooo no no nooo noo no no noooo nooo.

Why wouldn't the Canucks just trade Schneider then ? Regardless, you don't trade youth and/or 1sts when the Canucks have a bottom 5 ranked prospect pool.

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If you want a PMD, our only decent one is Edler, and for that he'd cost the moon.
Fair enough. Cup contending teams shouldn't be considering trading guys like that anyways.

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Though I'd love to see Briere as a Canuck. Absolutely love.
Briere for Luongo?

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I am amused that Scheider get 500K less a year then Ballard.


Ballard at 2.25 is not the steal some would suggest, The days of him playing over 20 minutes a game are gone and he is only good for third pairing defencemen. Most teams look to pay under 2mill for the third pairing D-men

If the the flyers did get Scheider they still have the problem of Bryzgalov in net at 6.666mill for 7 more years

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Fair enough. Cup contending teams shouldn't be considering trading guys like that anyways.


Briere for Luongo?
I would do it 10 out of 10 times but you would probably be forced to buy out Bryz and no owner would want to spend that much money on an upgrade in net, which I understand.

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I am amused that Scheider get 500K less a year then Ballard.


Ballard at 2.25 is not the steal some would suggest, The days of him playing over 20 minutes a game are gone and he is only good for third pairing defencemen. Most teams look to pay under 2mill for the third pairing D-men

If the the flyers did get Scheider they still have the problem of Bryzgalov in net at 6.666mill for 7 more years
You have no clue what you're talking about

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I would do it 10 out of 10 times but you would probably be forced to buy out Bryz and no owner would want to spend that much money on an upgrade in net, which I understand.
If there was one owner in sports who would do it, it would be Ed Snider. I promise you that. He'd usually do it, but even more so now that he's getting old and desperate


I would also trade Briere for Luongo 10 times out of 10.

The only problem is Briere's NMC

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Roy and Jagr?

Jensen + Schroeder/1st.
I'd do Schroeder + 1st + 3rd. Or KConn + Sweat + both picks.

Wouldn't do Jensen.

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Ya it could be possible Ott for a 1st, but that still is overpayment like Gaustad for a 1st. No chance on Jensen for Roy, just terrible. I'm sorry Dallas didnt mean to get your hopes up.
I think Ott also brings a lot more to the table than Gaustad.

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Fair enough. Cup contending teams shouldn't be considering trading guys like that anyways.


Briere for Luongo?
Honestly, I'd do it. I'm that high on Briere.

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Good to hear that Gillis is burning up the phone lines trying to fill what was an obvious need in the off-season.

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I am amused that Scheider get 500K less a year then Ballard.


Ballard at 2.25 is not the steal some would suggest, The days of him playing over 20 minutes a game are gone and he is only good for third pairing defencemen. Most teams look to pay under 2mill for the third pairing D-men

If the the flyers did get Scheider they still have the problem of Bryzgalov in net at 6.666mill for 7 more years
I thought you where serious and then I glanced at the avator,so wont explain the holes in your logic since you obviously looked up some stats without thinking there could be more to the players play as of arriving in Vancouver.

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You have no clue what you're talking about
Hummmmm

Ballard was cleared to play earlier in the week... how is he doing tonight? Being held back for safety or a healthy scratch depending on who's telecast you are listening to.

Ballard has been playing around 13 to 15 minutes a game in the games he played in this year, right? and about that as well the previous two seasons
his cap hit is 4.5mil, yes or no?
for the past three season he has been the 5-6 d-men on the canucks? Correct?

during the cup drive he was a healthy scratch more often then not? correct? h played only 10 games in the playoffs

last year he was injured? Correct?

Not many teams have 2.5 million d-men as part of their third pairing D partners? Correct?

Canuck fans for the past two seasons have been saying Ballard will bounce back under a new coach and new system—that is opinion.

Ballard's stats and contract tell a different story— looking at capgeek.com I don't see many teams that have a 4.5 million cap hit as the third pairing

With his Florida stats wasn't he paired a lot of the time with McCabe?

Ihave never been a Ballard fan, since he was with Phoenix and my opinion has not changed since he has moved onto other teams. Because of his contract and what he is doing in Vancouver, he is of negative value and a case could be made for the Canucks to buy him out and spend money elsewhere

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