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03-14-2013, 10:50 PM
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Subban's stats for this year. 21 GP, 7 G's - 13A's 20pts. +5 rating. Not bad but if your almost at a PPG level then your +/- should be somewhat better than this IF you are well rounded defensively.

(Go ahead and say the +/- stat is stupid...it's still a stat)
I am having a good time reading your posts. I was thinking that no way could someone be that delusional, then I learned that you are a Bruins fan. You are embarrassing your fellow Bruins fans. I wouldn't expect you to like Subban, but goodness, you should be better than this.

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One reason plus/minus is flawed is that Subban has only 5 even strength points and is +5 allowing one to argue that he's never been on the ice when a goal was scored against this year without delving into each and every game.

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One reason plus/minus is flawed is that Subban has only 5 even strength points and is +5 allowing one to argue that he's never been on the ice when a goal was scored against this year without delving into each and every game.
Mind is ****ing blown right here but I don't think this is really the case.. his teammates could be scoring the points. But by the same token it's not like he is necessarily the direct culprit if there is a goal scored against at EVS.

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Many teams have 2 "true" top-pairing defensemen.

As for #1 - the closest examples are the Canadiens and the Rangers.

Shattenkirk, Yandle, and Seabrook are definite top-pairing defensemen, but not #1's IMO.

Byfuglien I don't even know how to describe.

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Carlson and Alzner are pretty good...
They were absolutely amazing last year in the playoffs. How are they doing this season?

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Legitimate #1 d-man is as rare as prototypical power forwards but some how there is an inflation on the terms so now most teams have 1 or 2 of each.

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Legitimate #1 d-man is as rare as prototypical power forwards but some how there is an inflation on the terms so now most teams have 1 or 2 of each.
Hehe sharks got 2 of each
boyle/burns
and
clowe/burns

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Legitimate #1 d-man is as rare as prototypical power forwards but some how there is an inflation on the terms so now most teams have 1 or 2 of each.
There's 30 teams, so 30 legit #1. A few teams have none, so up to maybe 5 teams can have 2.

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people are mistaking 'top-pairing' guys for #1 guys

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