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If You Had To Trade One Who Would It Be, Hemsky or Gagner?

View Poll Results: If You Had To Trade One Who Would It Be, Hemsky or Gagner?
Hemsky 169 75.45%
Gagner 30 13.39%
Flip A Coin 25 11.16%
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03-15-2013, 04:45 PM
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Move them both, along with Smid, or the first rounder in 2014 for Shea Weber.

Hall moves to center next fall to make room for Drouin. With a good looking top 6 along with an undisputed top pairing blueliner, things will be much differnet next season. Anyone know of a near perennial .925 goaltender that's available?

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03-15-2013, 04:52 PM
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There's no way Eberle or Yakupov will be traded this early. People are way too impatient.

IMO those two guys will be the Oilers leading goal scorers for the next 10 years, why the heck would you deal them first? So you can watch a team pass the puck around 5000 times without being able to score because no one can finish?

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No offense, but you have lost your mind.
It would solve some issues for the Oilers. Gagner's (next seasons Ryan O'Rielly?) due for a substantial raise, and ofcourse Smid is wanting 4.5 on a multi yr deal. Sam's a luxury the Oilers may afford to pass up with Horcoff here for yet 2 more yrs at 5.5 per. Sooner or later these decisions will have to be made. Weber would be the only elite player switching teams, and he would be coming this way. With what we have here in place now (fab 5, super 6 including Drouin) who cares what's going the other way.

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03-15-2013, 04:56 PM
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I would do Hemsky + Gagner + Smid for Weber, but I don't think Nashville would.

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03-15-2013, 04:59 PM
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We trade Gagner, Hemsky, and Smid for prospects and picks.

HOPE!

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03-15-2013, 05:01 PM
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We trade Gagner, Hemsky, and Smid for prospects and picks.

HOPE!
So, we just need to get a prospect or draft a player whose last name starts with O?

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I would do Hemsky + Gagner + Smid for Weber, but I don't think Nashville would.
In a revenue sharing dependant market like Nashville, that enormous contract must feel like a ball and chain around their necks. If Nashville misses the playoffs this season, i'd have to think they look seriously at getting out from under that agreement.

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So, we just need to get a prospect or draft a player whose last name starts with O?
No, we need new Hope. HPE are already old news.

(A) NEW HOPE.

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I've believed for the last 3 years now that Hemsky can be effective, but mostly on an individual basis. I'm not convinced he can make his teammates better.

I'd trade him over Gagner.

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In a revenue sharing dependant market like Nashville, that enormous contract must feel like a ball and chain around their necks. If Nashville misses the playoffs this season, i'd have to think they look seriously at getting out from under that agreement.
If that deal's on the table even though you're giving up a lot I think obviously you make it if you're the Oilers. Time to open up the wallet Mr. Katz, lol.

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It would solve some issues for the Oilers. Gagner's (next seasons Ryan O'Rielly?) due for a substantial raise, and ofcourse Smid is wanting 4.5 on a multi yr deal. Sam's a luxury the Oilers may afford to pass up with Horcoff here for yet 2 more yrs at 5.5 per. Sooner or later these decisions will have to be made. Weber would be the only elite player switching teams, and he would be coming this way. With what we have here in place now (fab 5, super 6 including Drouin) who cares what's going the other way.
Regardles of NSH possibly trading Weber, which they wouldn't like Soundwave said, you are putting another midget child in our top 6. We can't compete with Hall, Eberle, Nuge, Yakupov, Gagner, and Hemsky, but dumping two of those guys for another pushover is suddenly helping us??

And I'd love to see Smid's agent asking for Jason Garrison's contract.

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I've believed for the last 3 years now that Hemsky can be effective, but mostly on an individual basis. I'm not convinced he can make his teammates better.

I'd trade him over Gagner.
At this point, it does look like Hemsky is more expendable than Gagner.

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03-15-2013, 05:08 PM
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Regardles of NSH possibly trading Weber, which they wouldn't like Soundwave said, you are putting another midget child in our top 6. We can't compete with Hall, Eberle, Nuge, Yakupov, Gagner, and Hemsky, but dumping two of those guys for another pushover is suddenly helping us??

And I'd love to see Smid's agent asking for Jason Garrison's contract.
Drouin is good though. Like really, really, really good. I probably would move Hall or MPS to center in that scenario and let it ride.

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In a revenue sharing dependant market like Nashville, that enormous contract must feel like a ball and chain around their necks. If Nashville misses the playoffs this season, i'd have to think they look seriously at getting out from under that agreement.
After the first year its not even that massive of a deal.


it would be down to 94M over 13 years. Becomes pretty damn effecient for a norris candidate.

So you are paying an average of 7.2M per season after the first one, while getting hit with an 8.64 cap.

So not only is the actual cost of keeping him not that high, but they could actually sink below the salary floor in terms of real dollars.

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Drouin is good though. Like really, really, really good. I probably would move Hall or MPS to center in that scenario and let it ride.
Hall, RNH, Yakupov and Eberle are really really good too.

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Hall, RNH, Yakupov and Eberle are really really good too.
But they play for the Oilers, ergo Drouin is far better. Until he joins the Oilers, then would suck as well, and another younger player becomes the bees knees. I wonder if the Oil could get an exemption to use players under 17? Then we could field the greatest team of all time.

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After the first year its not even that massive of a deal.


it would be down to 94M over 13 years. Becomes pretty damn effecient for a norris candidate.

So you are paying an average of 7.2M per season after the first one, while getting hit with an 8.64 cap.

So not only is the actual cost of keeping him not that high, but they could actually sink below the salary floor in terms of real dollars.
I believe his cap hit is 7.8 for nearly forevaaa. Sending nearly 14 in hits the other way is just a bonus. I don't believe Gags or Hemsky are top six players on this team in the very near future anyways. And Smid, he'd be a 4-7 guy on a decent team. Nashville has always loved Smid for some reason, let them have him. 3 forks in the road over the next 2 seasons dealt with all in one blow.

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Hall, RNH, Yakupov and Eberle are really really good too.
There's a fair chance Drouin is better than all of those players outside of maybe RNH.

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Hemmer for sure, there is much more replacements for him as a winger as opposed a center. Plus I'm kinda done with his 1 great game out of 8.
What are your criteria? What is a great, good, middling, poor, and crap game? What are the ratio of great games for other players? Is this some super special Staples measurement? Sounds fascinating.

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Hall, RNH, Yakupov and Eberle are really really good too.
Drouin will probably be as good as RNH. A team with two RNH's will always be better than a team with one.

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Drouin will probably be as good as RNH. A team with two RNH's will always be better than a team with one.
and 3 is better than 2.




so lets tank for mcdavid

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Hemsky!

Hemsky, should have been gone last season instead of Penner. We miss the size.

Gagner is just realizing his potential. The Edmonton Oilers have given Hemsky his time.

Injury history is a major factor also...

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Drouin will probably be as good as RNH. A team with two RNH's will always be better than a team with one.
So Pittsburgh's lineup plus RNH is worse than CBJ plus RNHX2

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I would prefer Hemsky gone, but I don't exactly think Clowe is the answer as many have suggested in the past. Maybe I'm wrong as he has been a 50 pt guy, but after 24 games this year only getting 9pts and -7 playing on the first and second lines kinda worries me.

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So Pittsburgh's lineup plus RNH is worse than CBJ plus RNHX2
I'm talking about the Oilers. People are talking like adding Drouin would somehow hurt the Oilers because he's a smaller skilled guy. I disagree, he's a premium talent and he would immediately improve the Oilers.

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and 3 is better than 2.




so lets tank for mcdavid
I don't want to tank at all, I'm hoping the Oilers make the playoffs, and I certainly don't think the Oilers are going to be in a position to draft Drouin (since I think he'll probably go 1-2). I'm just saying if they were in a position to take him, I wouldn't take Barkov for example just because he's bigger than Drouin.

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