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03-16-2013, 08:17 AM
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Anybody else come out the first page of this thread thinking Montreal fans are absolute dicks? Wow guys. It's a hockey forum - be civil.

Edit: Oh, and this thread needs more Oilers.

And as for the original question, it's the Hawks and Bruins AINEC.
Quoted for truth, after the first page I thought this whole thread was a Montreal circle jerk...

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03-16-2013, 08:31 AM
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depending on age Canes could be in there as well:

Skinner - 20
Faulk - 20
J Staal - 24
Tlusty - 25
McBain - 25
E Staal - 28
Pitkanen - 29
Semin - 29
Ward - 29

not sure what we have in Riley Nash (23), Danny Biega (21), Ryan Murphy (20), and Victor Rask (20) yet but all 4 could be pretty dang good. Nash's been very impressive in a limited stint so far this year.

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03-16-2013, 09:03 AM
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Half a season now... It's been half a season of Gallagher playing better than Bourque, Gionta, Prust, Moen, Armstrong and Galchenyuk.

Is Huberdeau a core player in Florida? Tarasenko in ST-Louis? IMO yes they are because the impact they make is essential to the team success

I've already dismissed Galchenyuk so stop bringing him up.
Gallagher has been better better than most of those guys. But so would the Ottawa guys.

However, Gallagher was not better than Bourque. Rene was unreal until his concussion. Just unreal.

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03-16-2013, 09:20 AM
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Blows my mind Toews and Kane are 24. They arent even in their primes. I think Toews will get better till he's 31, and Kane will have on/off periods his entire career. But god, they've already won everything, is there anything even left for those two? Maybe they should pick a reclamation project and bring them to the championship. Like Columbus and Florida.

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03-16-2013, 09:22 AM
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Edmonton, Colorado, Philly, Montreal and St Luo.

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03-16-2013, 09:27 AM
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habs fan although i love our youth . I always liked the way Chicago was built , that is a team who knew what they were doing with there re build.

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03-16-2013, 09:28 AM
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Mtl's core is good but theyre probably are in top 8-12 in the league


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03-16-2013, 09:34 AM
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Senators have the deepest and strongest core players moving forward.

Top 5-10 center in the game: Spezza
Arguably best player in the game and best defender: Karlsson
Top 6 forwards with really high potential: Zibanejad and Silfverberg
Number 2 center: Turris
Number 2-4 defender in Cowen who can be number 1 talent wise.
Best goalie prospect in the game with crazy stats in NHL this year so far: Lehner
Top 4 defenders: Methot, Wiercioch and Gryba
Plethora of elite young bottom 6 forwards: Smith, Greening, Condra

Core players are players you build your team around.

Ottawa is currently 6th in the league with their best core players missing now: Spez, Karl, Cowen, Anderson, Michalek yet their upcoming core is proving to be ready NOW.

Sens AHL team is also 2nd in the league while being the youngest and Sens have top 3 prospect pool in the league

The Sens also have 4th lowest cap hit with over 20 mil next year free with all major players under contract.

Sens have the strongest a deepest core moving forward, with all major positions covered, imo.

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03-16-2013, 09:58 AM
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Senators have the deepest and strongest core players moving forward.

Top 5-10 center in the game: Spezza
Arguably best player in the game and best defender: Karlsson
Top 6 forwards with really high potential: Zibanejad and Silfverberg
Number 2 center: Turris
Number 2-4 defender in Cowen who can be number 1 talent wise.
Best goalie prospect in the game with crazy stats in NHL this year so far: Lehner
Top 4 defenders: Methot, Wiercioch and Gryba
Plethora of elite young bottom 6 forwards: Smith, Greening, Condra

Core players are players you build your team around.

Ottawa is currently 6th in the league with their best core players missing now: Spez, Karl, Cowen, Anderson, Michalek yet their upcoming core is proving to be ready NOW.

Sens AHL team is also 2nd in the league while being the youngest and Sens have top 3 prospect pool in the league

The Sens also have 4th lowest cap hit with over 20 mil next year free with all major players under contract.

Sens have the strongest a deepest core moving forward, with all major positions covered, imo.
Im a sens fan too but I dont think we have the strongest core, deepest maybe, top 3 or top 5 for sure though, besides karlsson and spezza we dont have very high end talent, remember that crosby and malkin are only 25/26, toews/kane are 24, boston may not have elite superstars such as crosby, malkin, toews and kane but they have bergeron, seguin and while their core is fairly young(early-mid 20's) most of them are all nhl regular already, then you have st. louis and phoenix(but only their depth on D). I do believe however that ottawa has one of the deepest prospect pool in all positions(but not necessarily high end talent) and its showing right now. Also, remember that the highest the sens picked in the draft was in 2001 wen they selected spezza as #2. Since then the highest theyve picked was #6, while pens had #1 in crsoby, #2 in malkin they had fleury and jordan staal high too, same thing with edmonton, mtl had #3 pick last year and #5 in carey price, but I applaud them with the picks they had later in the draft, such as subban, pacciorety. Hawks had kane #1 and toews was high too. Bruins had seguin as #2 and they picked kessel as #5. I like mtl's core but they are not as deep as the sens or as high end talent as the pens, bruins and hawks


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03-16-2013, 10:04 AM
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Lots of jealousy in this thread.

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03-16-2013, 10:18 AM
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Senators have the deepest and strongest core players moving forward.

Top 5-10center in the game: Spezza
Arguably best player in the game and best defender: Karlsson
Top 6 forwards with really high potential: Zibanejad and Silfverberg
Number 2 center: Turris
Number 2-4 defender in Cowen who can be number 1 talent wise.
Best goalie prospect in the game with crazy stats in NHL this year so far: Lehner
Top 4 defenders: Methot, Wiercioch and Gryba
Plethora of elite young bottom 6 forwards: Smith, Greening, Condra

Core players are players you build your team around.

Ottawa is currently 6th in the league with their best core players missing now: Spez, Karl, Cowen, Anderson, Michalek yet their upcoming core is proving to be ready NOW.

Sens AHL team is also 2nd in the league while being the youngest and Sens have top 3 prospect pool in the league

The Sens also have 4th lowest cap hit with over 20 mil next year free with all major players under contract.

Sens have the strongest a deepest core moving forward, with all major positions covered, imo.
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03-16-2013, 10:20 AM
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What I see in this thread....

The Northeast division is STACKED with solid young players...Buffalo probably the least amount..


And 90% of NHL teams have a pretty good young core IMO....some with a few more than others..

With a few of these cores that have already won a cup..and with the way some of you are praising your own team you'd atleast think your team was one that has, but nope. Surprised some of these cores haven't won multiple but in such a deep league its not that easy anymore.

And to the guy who said Boston has poor defensive depth....agreed. We only have Hamilton coming up really...McQuaid/Boychuk middle aged...Chara/Seidenberg/Ference older..

And guys like Krug, Bartowski, Warsofsky....Were definitely lacking in the defensive prospects..

Tending we have Rask/Khudobin/Svedberg/Subban so were fine there..


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03-16-2013, 10:23 AM
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Lots of jealousy in this thread.
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All I see is every team waiving around their young players and passing them off as core players






but not really sarcasm

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03-16-2013, 10:27 AM
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03-16-2013, 10:30 AM
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Note that its written YOUNG

Outside of Karlsson you don't have YOUNG in your core.
hehehe

Hahahah

HAHAHAHAHA!

Turris, Karlsson, Lehner, Silfverberg, Zibanejad, Cowen, Smith, Wiercioch all in the NHL.

Nope, nothing here, move along.....

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03-16-2013, 10:37 AM
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What I see in this thread....

The Northeast division is STACKED with solid young players...Buffalo probably the least amount..


And 90% of NHL teams have a pretty good young core IMO....some with a few more than others..

With a few of these cores that have already won a cup..and with the way some of you are praising your own team you'd atleast think your team was one that has, but nope. Surprised some of these cores haven't won multiple but in such a deep league its not that easy anymore.

And to the guy who said Boston has poor defensive depth....agreed. We only have Hamilton coming up really...McQuaid/Boychuk middle aged...Chara/Seidenberg/Ference older..

And guys like Krug, Bartowski, Warsofsky....Were definitely lacking in the defensive prospects..

Tending we have Rask/Khudobin/Svedberg/Subban so were fine there..
I agree about the northeast, but I think Ottawa, Boston, and Montreal are a cut above the rest. Leafs don't have a goalie, and are hurt by the fact Reilly isn't in the NHL to qualify.

Another team forgotten in the mix that hasnt been mentioned, has to be the Blues.

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03-16-2013, 10:39 AM
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How is our core overated? All our core is under 30(If you dont count Plekanec and Bourque 26.)
Goalie: Price I think we take the cake(Even though he played more like a middle of the pack goalie these days.)
Dman: Diaz, Gorges, Emelin, SUBBAN, Markov(To a lesser extent than the others)
Wingers: Gallagher, Patches, Bourque
C: Galchenyuk, Eller, Plekanec, DD.

We sure don't have the best individuals, but the depth of the core has to be one of the best.
We're pretty much on par with Boston, Colorado, Edmonton, TB, LA, Philly and St-Louis.
Ahhh your looking from the mountain. Where was your core last year? They were in the valley, looking up at the rest of the NHL.

30 games does not a future guarantee

But yeah, the Habs are looking much better this year, and they are young.

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isls have the best young core not in the nhl yet

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Backstrom 25
Ovechkin 27
Johansson 22
Brouwer 27 (possibly)
Forsberg 18
Kuznetsov 20
Wilson 18

Carlson 23
Green 27
Alzner 24
Orlov 21
Kundratek (maybe) 23

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Sens young core:

1st line:???
2nd line: Zibanejad, Turris
3rd line: Zack Smith

1st pairing: Karlsson Cowen
#1 goalie: Lehner

Glaring hole on the 1st line. We have no one. The Avs have Duchene, ROR, and Landeskog : (

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03-16-2013, 11:06 AM
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Obviously the Oilers have our big 5, but Sam Gagner and Magnus Paajarvi are seriously underrated, the former is scoring at a near ppg pace this season while the latter has been the best 2-way forward on the team.

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Ahhh your looking from the mountain. Where was your core last year? They were in the valley, looking up at the rest of the NHL.

30 games does not a future guarantee

But yeah, the Habs are looking much better this year, and they are young.
Where was your core 2 seasons ago when you were in the basement?

The Habs have turned it around quickly just like Ottawa.

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"Best" "young" "cores" in the NHL. All three of the words in quotes are subjective.

Working backwards, I will identify the "core" of the Hawks, then identify which of those core players I consider to be young.

Core group: Toews (24), Kane (24), Hossa (34), Sharp (31), Keith (29) and Seabrook (27).

Of that group, I consider only Toews and Kane to be "young".

Other young players at the NHL level like Leddy, Saad and Shaw, have not risen to the level of "core player", at least not yet.

Based on this - I don't think the Hawks have the best young core.

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03-16-2013, 11:47 AM
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Where was your core 2 seasons ago when you were in the basement?

The Habs have turned it around quickly just like Ottawa.
Price, Pacioretty, and Subban all had good years despite the teams struggles, while the Gallys were in junior.

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How is our core overated? All our core is under 30(If you dont count Plekanec and Bourque 26.)
Goalie: Price I think we take the cake(Even though he played more like a middle of the pack goalie these days.)
Dman: Diaz, Gorges, Emelin, SUBBAN, Markov(To a lesser extent than the others)
Wingers: Gallagher, Patches, Bourque
C: Galchenyuk, Eller, Plekanec, DD.

We sure don't have the best individuals, but the depth of the core has to be one of the best.
We're pretty much on par with Boston, Colorado, Edmonton, TB, LA, Philly and St-Louis.
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