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03-15-2013, 09:04 PM
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If he gets bought out I wouldn't mind the Leafs signing him, along with Perry

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03-15-2013, 09:08 PM
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He's Dany ****ing Heatley. He's done when he tells you he's done.

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03-15-2013, 10:45 PM
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Pretty sure Ray Emery was the only one that called 60 goals alongside Thornton.

And last I checked, Heatley has put up a whole lot better numbers than Milan since that trade.
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Are you kidding me?
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03-15-2013, 10:54 PM
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Pretty sure Keith Jones predicted Heatley would score 70 goals playing alongside Joe Thornton.

Anyways, as an Ottawa fan, I obviously disliked him. Now I'm pretty indifferent. He hasn't really been relevant since leaving the Sens. While I wouldn't want him back right now for a few reasons, I do miss watching him pot 50 goals wearing a Sens jersey. He had a lethal one-timer and was hungry for garbage goals in his first couple seasons here. He could beat you with his release on a snapshot, a bomb one-timer or put the garbage goals in the back of the net. He was a pure goal scorer. He also had above average vision which made him an elite offensive threat.

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03-15-2013, 11:04 PM
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Iginla has lost a step, but its not like he's Dany Heatley, eating to many breakfast sandwhiches.

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03-16-2013, 06:20 AM
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Pretty sure Keith Jones predicted Heatley would score 70 goals playing alongside Joe Thornton.
Yeah, and Thornton would get over 100 assists.

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03-16-2013, 06:25 AM
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I like how only 3 years ago there were polls Heatley vs. Kovalchuk being pretty lopsided in Heatley's favor.

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03-16-2013, 07:49 AM
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Bruno knew how play within his limitations and wasn't a turnover machine. And he sure as hell wasn't getting paid 7M/year.

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03-16-2013, 07:53 AM
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i can't believe they are playing him instead of granlund...what a waste.
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Granlund is too weak, not fast enough etc. He sucks more than Heatley.

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03-16-2013, 11:36 AM
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He is a one dimensional player, and to stay in the "elite" status, you have to continue to reinvent yourself.

He is done as a top line player.

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03-16-2013, 11:49 AM
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He's a ****ing all star. Hat trick in the ****ing all star game and a ****ing 50 goal scorer. What more can the guy do, he'll even show up to the odd optional skate to help the goalies with their clap bombs.

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03-16-2013, 12:03 PM
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Granlund has some spectacular skills but he is not even close to being an NHL calibre player right now.

His most common linemate at 5v5 was Devin Setoguchi (148mins). When those two were on the ice together, Minnesota took 38.2% of the shot attempts. When Setoguchi was away from Granlund, Minnesota took 52.7% of the shot attempts.

The picture is just as ugly with anyone else on the roster; he's in the mid-30s with almost everyone, and every player did better when Granlund wasn't on the ice with them.


Uh, what?

From the start of the '08 season until the end of last year, only 9 players piled up assists faster than Mikko Koivu.

He's ahead of Kopitar, Spezza, Eric Staal, Toews, Lecavalier...

I don't think that assists/game means a whole lot, but when someone is 10th in the world at it over an extended sample size, it's probably a clue that he's a pretty good center for a goal scoring winger to play with.




People are worried about goals and assists but those are results and what you have to focus on is the process.

Here's Heatley's shots per game with each team he played for:

Atlanta, 190 games, 2.83 shots/game
Ottawa, 317 games, 3.44 shots/game
San Jose, 162 games, 3.07 shots/game
Minnesota, 108 games, 2.75 shots/game

Clearly as a rookie it takes some time to learn how to generate shots at the NHL level, and you can see a pretty clear curve peaking in Ottawa and slowly dropping the past 4 seasons... but most alarming to me is this year so far:

Minnesota this year only, 26 games, 2.27 shots/game


Not only is his shots per game super low compared to his career average and arc, but here are his most common linemates at 5v5:

1) Parise, 189 minutes
2) Koivu, 187 minutes

...and on defense...

3) Suter, 178 minutes
4) Brodin, 124 minutes

When you spend a majority of your ice time with elite players, and you still manage to hit a career low, you're in bad shape.

It's also worth noting that Heatley was an absolute anchor on those guys, dragging them down pretty significantly.

Heatley with Parise: 51.6%
Heatley without Parise: 40.2%
Parise without Heatley: 56.9%

Heatley with Koivu: 52.0%
Heatley without Koivu: 40.1%
Koivu without Heatley: 54.7%
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03-16-2013, 12:07 PM
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The only thing that is done is this thread

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