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03-15-2013, 07:48 PM
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Nielsen is a face off specialist and is decent defensively and deadly in the "skills competition". It's time people around here realize that we need different role players like face off specialists, stay at home defensemen, grinders, point men on the power play, guys who sit on front of the net, etc.....We can't have a team that is John Tavares on all 4 lines.

Snow has traded for Smyth years ago, he didn't forget. Better than Milbury who would have traded Matt Moulson and Matt Martin for John Erksine a second time. Maybe it's better he doesn't trade all the time. Now is the time and all these cheap contracts point to something big....
Ideally, Nielson belongs on the 3rd line playing wing on this team. Out of the 3 I mentioned he probably has the most trade value and also the most value to us. He is far from a face off specialist winning just 43% so far this season. He is too small to be a shutdown 3rd line center and does not have the offense for the 2nd line. He would be great as a 3rd line wing and shootout specialist, stealing those silly points. I would love to keep him but wouldn't hesitate to move him.

The team is dirt thin on depth after JT and Moulson and before we worry about specialists we need a 2nd line and a top 4. Remember Reasonor was brought in as a faceoff specialist and we see how thats worked out.

McDonald is a nice to keep around and is an ideal 4th line player. We just don't have a need to add more contracts to the mix without getting rid of some. Snow has not made a hockey trade in 5 years, the guy deserves no respect or praise from us.

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03-15-2013, 09:26 PM
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Great contract for a player that worked hard and deserves it. I hope he stays here for a long time as a fixture on the 4th line. Him being a RH shot is huge plus.

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03-15-2013, 10:38 PM
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McDonald has played well, but why is snow in such a rush to sign him to a two year extension? Why not one? I can't imagine a rush for other teams to grab Colin in the offseason. Why not just wait and see if a better option presents itself in the offseason?

Strait is another guy who has played well but there are so may dmen in the system what's the rush to get him signed?

McDonald has been good so far this season hopefully he continues his good play.
Because, if he continues to play well, the price will go up. He is at better than a 30 point pace...if he continues that way he could have gotten $1.25-$1.5M on the open market. If the Isles signed him to a 1-year deal and he put up 30 points next year he could have signed for over $2M.

Same with Strait, if he played out the season in a top-4 role (and didn't get injured) he could have asked for a lot more money.

Snow believes in locking up players early. It has helped save money with players like MacDonald and Nielsen. These kind of deals have no real downside but can save the team money.

Worse comes to worse, McDonald is the 13th forward and Strait the 7th dman and they are paid appropriately for that role. Best case, Strait ends up on a 2nd pair and McDonald is on the third line and the team takes the savings and invests it in better players. (ok, doubtful, but the team will need to get to the minimum)

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03-15-2013, 10:55 PM
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Great for both him and Strait to get pulled off waivers and show they can play in the NHL. Now just start filling in the 2-3 line missing pieces and we could roll 4 lines out there with confidence! Plus a #1/2 Dman = )

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03-15-2013, 11:01 PM
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Happy for him, this is a good deal for both sides

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03-15-2013, 11:10 PM
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Great for both him and Strait to get pulled off waivers and show they can play in the NHL. Now just start filling in the 2-3 line missing pieces and we could roll 4 lines out there with confidence! Plus a #1/2 Dman = )
McDonald was signed as a free agent.

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03-15-2013, 11:21 PM
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I have nothing bad to say about him. He works hard and he is physical two things we need. He has played well & that contract is very reasonable. Good signing, i would like to see Boyes & Streit also get two year deals.

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A well deserved deal for a guy who's been struggling for years to make it to the show. A little suprised they gave him a two year deal, but for a 4th line guy he's as good as it gets.He's got as many goals as Bailey and Okposo combined so it's hard to argue with this.

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03-16-2013, 07:05 AM
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to the poster worried about this creating a log jam , dont worry about it .

it seems like most nhl trades these days involve bottom 6 type players on cheap contracts .

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03-16-2013, 07:10 AM
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The only thing I don't like about McDonald is that he's a fourth line player who doesn't kill penalties. But, whatever, this means very little. Assuming he stays healthy, he would probably get claimed on waivers if we got something better.

What's interesting is that the Isles needed to add the 2nd year in order to get him to commit.

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03-16-2013, 07:35 AM
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I know you guys think Colin is a checker and 4th liner, but I don't think he is. Before, he was known as someone that could put the puck in the net. We aren't talking Stamkos, but I wouldn't cast judgment so quickly. Don't be surprised if you see Colin work his way up to JT's line. He checks almost as much as Martin and carrys a decent hockey IQ...knows how to pass and shoot:

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McDonald has good physical skills and a deadly accurate shot but he needs to get himself into better position to use the shot more effectively. He is strong and aggressive down low and in the corners, goes hard to the net and brings a positive work ethic and energy to the table. However, he wasn’t supposed to be an energy player as a pro, he’s supposed to be a scorer. Another high character person, well-spoken and charismatic personality; very Jarret Stoll-like."

I dono about you guys, but this sounds like exactly the player JT needs who is also a RHS!

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03-16-2013, 08:38 AM
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I know you guys think Colin is a checker and 4th liner, but I don't think he is. Before, he was known as someone that could put the puck in the net. We aren't talking Stamkos, but I wouldn't cast judgment so quickly. Don't be surprised if you see Colin work his way up to JT's line. He checks almost as much as Martin and carrys a decent hockey IQ...knows how to pass and shoot:

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"Talent Analysis

McDonald has good physical skills and a deadly accurate shot but he needs to get himself into better position to use the shot more effectively. He is strong and aggressive down low and in the corners, goes hard to the net and brings a positive work ethic and energy to the table. However, he wasn’t supposed to be an energy player as a pro, he’s supposed to be a scorer. Another high character person, well-spoken and charismatic personality; very Jarret Stoll-like."

I dono about you guys, but this sounds like exactly the player JT needs who is also a RHS!

Yeah lets not forget the fact he was a high second round pick.
He has offensive skills/instincts.

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03-16-2013, 09:11 AM
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It's nice to have a solid 4th line. I can't remember the last time we had a really good 4th line that had 3 players who could actually play hockey.

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It's nice to have a solid 4th line. I can't remember the last time we had a really good 4th line that had 3 players who could actually play hockey.
This! Most of our 4th lines the past 10 years were filled with players that were AHL call-ups or old finished players on the verge of retirement

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I like McDonald; he's done a great job so far. However, this just locks in another player for next season and obviously there needs to be SOME roster turnover if this team is supposed to get any better.

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I like McDonald; he's done a great job so far. However, this just locks in another player for next season and obviously there needs to be SOME roster turnover if this team is supposed to get any better.
We do need turnover, quite a bit of it infact. But not on the 4th line. In terms of the forwards, it's our 2nd line that is the real problem.

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03-16-2013, 10:28 AM
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We do need turnover, quite a bit of it infact. But not on the 4th line. In terms of the forwards, it's our 2nd line that is the real problem.
Agreed. I was watching the end of the Jets v Rangers game on Thursday and found myself salivating over Andrew Ladd and Evander Kane. I can't help think how much better the Isles would be if they even had one of these players on the roster.

The whole 2nd line has no business getting as much icetime as they do.

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It's nice to have a solid 4th line. I can't remember the last time we had a really good 4th line that had 3 players who could actually play hockey.
This x1000. For so long it was like management and even our fans thought the 4th line was where you put the people who can't play hockey and are just there to be goons.

Now we have a 4th line that can actually PLAY HOCKEY. They can score, check, and are solid defensively. They can eat minutes without having to worry about all the goals they will let up.

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Ideally, Nielson belongs on the 3rd line playing wing on this team. Out of the 3 I mentioned he probably has the most trade value and also the most value to us. He is far from a face off specialist winning just 43% so far this season. He is too small to be a shutdown 3rd line center and does not have the offense for the 2nd line. He would be great as a 3rd line wing and shootout specialist, stealing those silly points. I would love to keep him but wouldn't hesitate to move him.
This year he is not doing so well, but are we going to be so short sided, to quick to say "oh he is not good anymore because of a 25=26 game span? Also who is to say that he is not big enough for a third line center, that they have to be HUGE! Or depth at center is only Tavares, Bailey, Cizikas, Aucoin and Nielsen we cent afford to put him on wing as of now.

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The team is dirt thin on depth after JT and Moulson and before we worry about specialists we need a 2nd line and a top 4. Remember Reasonor was brought in as a faceoff specialist and we see how thats worked out.

McDonald is a nice to keep around and is an ideal 4th line player. We just don't have a need to add more contracts to the mix without getting rid of some. Snow has not made a hockey trade in 5 years, the guy deserves no respect or praise from us.
So what is the obsession that a good GM makes trades? What trade could this GM done that would have improved this team up until now, because we didnt have this kind of depth since our last playoff season 06-07. Well Reasoner has been player better as of late. He wasn't brought in as a savior either. You can't say that we need to improve guys when their was slim pickings for this team the last few years. Now with more depth we can actually trade and it wouldn't leave the cupboards bare. Even a year or two ago this was not possible. Contracts can be gotten rid of easy. That is what Tim Thomas was gotten for, just in case we fell out of contention. This team needs to win the next 2 against Florida and Ottawa and we won't have to worry about a sell off. I am hoping for a (smaller or similar) Smyth like trade if we can get into the 6-7 spot. Yeah I said it.

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This x1000. For so long it was like management and even our fans thought the 4th line was where you put the people who can't play hockey and are just there to be goons.

Now we have a 4th line that can actually PLAY HOCKEY. They can score, check, and are solid defensively. They can eat minutes without having to worry about all the goals they will let up.
No, that's what the second line is for now...

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McDonald is outperforming Okposo statistically in three less games, while getting less shifts and TOI.

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McDonald is outperforming Okposo statistically in three less games, while getting less shifts and TOI.
McDonald plays a very simple game, doesn't over-think. If Okposo plays that way, he's got a lot more talent than McD, he should be able to get more results.

But KO is suffering from an identity crisis right now, and severe lack of confidence.

He either scurries around like a madman, racing in every direction chasing players and pucks, largely to zero results but getting tired fast - OR - he thinks he can stick-handle around players and make cutesy plays (Bailey does this too)

Isles need KO and Bailey (and Nielsen!) to start producing in order to make the playoffs.

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McDonald plays a very simple game, doesn't over-think. If Okposo plays that way, he's got a lot more talent than McD, he should be able to get more results.

But KO is suffering from an identity crisis right now, and severe lack of confidence.

He either scurries around like a madman, racing in every direction chasing players and pucks, largely to zero results but getting tired fast - OR - he thinks he can stick-handle around players and make cutesy plays (Bailey does this too)

Isles need KO and Bailey (and Nielsen!) to start producing in order to make the playoffs.
This is where a veteran coach would reall help.

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This is where a veteran coach would reall help.
Coaches don't have time to coddle individual players. This is where a decent, respected veteran player would help. But, we have Brad Boyes.

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