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03-17-2013, 03:39 AM
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I didn`t go through all the pages but only saw a few mentions of LA Kings which is a tragedy...

Forwards - Kopitar , Brown , Richards , Carter (All elite 2 way forwards)

Defense - Doughty , Voynov , Muzzin (potentially but has done well paired with Doughty)

Goalies - Quick , Bernier

Only a few teams come close... and don`t feed me this Oilers kool-aid because compared to the Kings at this moment it is not even close

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03-17-2013, 04:00 AM
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A 2010 3rd round defender, that gets compared to Scott Stevens for his heavy hits (but his offensive ability is limited). Played just 3 games so far, but he will stay in Tampa. Got 20min last night and has 14 hits and 7 blocked shots.
He is an absolute beast and teams will hate playing against him.

Oh yes he leds the AHL with a +32 (before his callup, not sure if he is still the leader.
sounds like a prospect. can you have core prospects?

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I didn`t go through all the pages but only saw a few mentions of LA Kings which is a tragedy...

Forwards - Kopitar , Brown , Richards , Carter (All elite 2 way forwards)

Defense - Doughty , Voynov , Muzzin (potentially but has done well paired with Doughty)

Goalies - Quick , Bernier

Only a few teams come close... and don`t feed me this Oilers kool-aid because compared to the Kings at this moment it is not even close
Lots of those guys were drafted a decade ago.

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03-17-2013, 04:04 AM
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DONT foret MINNESITATWET

COYle
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Scandella
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Nice, there's 5 prospects from that large crop that will/might make the NHL. Time for a new scout Minnesota

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03-17-2013, 04:08 AM
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I didn`t go through all the pages but only saw a few mentions of LA Kings which is a tragedy...

Forwards - Kopitar , Brown , Richards , Carter (All elite 2 way forwards)

Defense - Doughty , Voynov , Muzzin (potentially but has done well paired with Doughty)

Goalies - Quick , Bernier

Only a few teams come close... and don`t feed me this Oilers kool-aid because compared to the Kings at this moment it is not even close
Exactly how are Brown, Carter and Richards young, they're all 28 or turning 29. When I hear young, I don't exactly think of players pushing 30. If that's the best LA has to offer than they're in trouble because in 4-5 years their "young" core will be getting old. Also, the OP put under 25 or younger players as the core so in LA's case it would only be

Kopitar
Doughty, Voynov, Muzzin
Bernier

I don't know if they have any other up and coming under 25 rookies or players, but I sure hope so.

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Pens AINEC

Crosby, Malkin, Neal, Letang, Sutter, Bennett, several blue chip D prospects
Malkin is 27 and Letang is turning 26 in a month and Crosby in 4 months.

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Anybody else come out the first page of this thread thinking Montreal fans are absolute dicks? Wow guys. It's a hockey forum - be civil
We're not dicks, we just know how to read and calculate age. Players born later than 1988 will be 25 or younger.


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03-17-2013, 04:36 AM
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Exactly how are Brown, Carter and Richards young, they're all 28 or turning 29. When I hear young, I don't exactly think of players pushing 30. If that's the best LA has to offer than they're in trouble because in 4-5 years their "young" core will be getting old. Also, the OP put under 25 or younger players as the core so in LA's case it would only be

Kopitar
Doughty, Voynov, Muzzin
Bernier

I don't know if they have any other up and coming under 25 rookies or players, but I sure hope so.



Malkin is 27 and Letang is turning 26 in a month and Crosby in 4 months.

I`m sorry the thread title says best young core...

Mike Richards just turned 28
Jeff Carter just turned 28
Dustin Brown recently turned 28
Anze Kopitar is 25
Drew Doughty is 23
Slava Voynov is 23
Jonathan Quick is 27

This is as of today.... Obviously in 5 or 6 years this will change but until then I don`t see how any of these players aren`t young. Players hit their prime between ages 25-30. Other comparables are Āvalanche and Oilers (both of whom likely won`t be contenders until their core players hit the same age). So again, RIGHT NOW the best is the Kings and the only comparables I can think of are Pittsburgh and Chicago.

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03-17-2013, 04:37 AM
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Claude Giroux
Brayden Schenn
Sean Couturier
Jakub Voracek
Wayne Simmonds
Matt Read (but he's already 26)
Luke Schenn
Zac Rinaldo
Tye McGinn
Erik Gustafsson

Scott Laughton
Nick Cousins
Marc-Andre Bourdon
Anthony Stolarz
Shayne Gostisbehere
Brandon Manning

Simply, It goes to Philly.

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03-17-2013, 04:42 AM
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Hawks may have the best mix of experience/skill in their core...arguable if they have the best "young" core:

Hossa 34
Sharp 31
Keith 29
Seabrook 27
Toews 24
Kane 24

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Hawks may have the best mix of experience/skill in their core...arguable if they have the best "young" core:

Hossa 34
Sharp 31
Keith 29
Seabrook 27
Toews 24
Kane 24
Toews and Kane are the only "young" guys on that list. Maybe Seabrook.

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03-17-2013, 08:18 AM
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Looks like people don't understand what "core" means

Rinaldo? Lmao

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I`m sorry the thread title says best young core...

Mike Richards just turned 28
Jeff Carter just turned 28
Dustin Brown recently turned 28
Anze Kopitar is 25
Drew Doughty is 23
Slava Voynov is 23
Jonathan Quick is 27

This is as of today.... Obviously in 5 or 6 years this will change but until then I don`t see how any of these players aren`t young. Players hit their prime between ages 25-30. Other comparables are Āvalanche and Oilers (both of whom likely won`t be contenders until their core players hit the same age). So again, RIGHT NOW the best is the Kings and the only comparables I can think of are Pittsburgh and Chicago.
Well like I clearly said, the OP was talking about 25 and under players that will make an impact down the road. Half those players are 28+ and one is 27 (Quick)

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03-17-2013, 01:47 PM
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That sounds ... pretty convenient. Toews and Kane are exactly 1 (ONE!) year younger than Crosby, Letang, and Neal, and a whopping 2 years younger than Malkin. Yet the Pens' core is too old to qualify for this thread, while the Hawks' isn't?

Any way you look at it, the Pens core still should qualify for this thread because their core will be in contention for a Cup for at the very least the next 4 or 5 seasons before they start having to worry about being "old".

At the very least, it's ridiculous to say the Pens guys are too old and then list a team with star players who are only one freakin' year younger than the Pens' "greybeards".
Sounds fair enough, so then absolutely, it is the Pens. My one note would be that the Pens 'core' is an oft injured group, that very rarely play together.

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03-17-2013, 02:05 PM
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oilers hands down, they are not much now but that is an incredible core to build around
By the time they actually start winning the team will have trouble signing all those players.

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Exactly how are Brown, Carter and Richards young, they're all 28 or turning 29. When I hear young, I don't exactly think of players pushing 30. If that's the best LA has to offer than they're in trouble because in 4-5 years their "young" core will be getting old. Also, the OP put under 25 or younger players as the core so in LA's case it would only be

Kopitar
Doughty, Voynov, Muzzin
Bernier

I don't know if they have any other up and coming under 25 rookies or players, but I sure hope so.
They've got Toffoli, Pearson, Vey, and Forbort all coming in within the next 2-3 seasons. You could even add King, Clifford & Nolan to that list. Although they're not great, they had a lot to do with the Kings playoff run last year and Clifford has really taken a big step forward this season. People seem to forget about Martinez as well, who is 25. The Kings really have nothing to worry about for the future.
The players you mentioned haven't even hit their prime years and 4 of the 5 have already won a Cup.


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Need to specify "young core".

Ok. I'll do it. "Young core" means players between the ages of 18-25.

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Yea thats because of their draft position , the tradeoff is not making the playoffs and they have to develop but when they do they will be good
Honestly, getting someone to actually coach the team and not just cross his arms behind the bench with a perplexed look on his face would do them a world of good, they've overcome sacco to get close to the playoffs before, but if they could replace him with someone competent the kids would be ready for a playoff run.

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Price, Subban, Eller, Pacioretty AND Galchenyuk? That's just unfair. Sorry NHL
I don't find that list that impressive, it seems rather average.

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I don't find that list that impressive, it seems rather average.
What's average about it?

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I wouldn't exactly call 27-29 year olds young...

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"Best" "young" "cores" in the NHL. All three of the words in quotes are subjective.

Working backwards, I will identify the "core" of the Hawks, then identify which of those core players I consider to be young.

Core group: Toews (24), Kane (24), Hossa (34), Sharp (31), Keith (29) and Seabrook (27).

Of that group, I consider only Toews and Kane to be "young".

Other young players at the NHL level like Leddy, Saad and Shaw, have not risen to the level of "core player", at least not yet.

Based on this - I don't think the Hawks have the best young core.
Basically this. As a Hawks fan I don't even consider Bolland or Hjalmarsson (who are 26 and 25 respectively) as a part of the core and I use the word "core" very strictly

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I like the Habs under 25 group presently playing and up amd coming

Price = 25

Subban = 23
Tinordi = 21


Pacioretty = 24
Eller= 23
Galchenyuk = 19
Gallagher = 20
White = 25

Emelin and Deharnais are 26

20ish or less on their way
Beaulieu
Collberg
Kristo
Hudon
Bozon
Leblanc
Vail
Ellis
Thrower
Nyfren
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I like ottawa's 25 and under too

Lehner-22
Karlsson-22
Cowen-22
Wiercoch-22
Zibanejad-20
Silfverberg-22
Turris-23
Gryba-24

Then other under 25
Cody Ceci
Mark Stone
JP Pageau
Shane Prince
Stephane Dacosta
Mike Hoffman
Mikael Wisktrand
Andre Petersson
Matt Peumpel
Stefan Noeson
Filatov? LOL

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Jets have a good young core, but it is missing pieces:

Pavelec - 25

Bogosian - 22
Byfuglien - 27

Ladd - 27
Kane - 21
Burmistrov - 21
Wheeler - 26

Scheifele and Trouba up and coming. Looks decent, but doesn't compare to other cores out there. We don't have that #1C.

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Only one person said Boston?

Most of their core is under 27...

Bergeron 27
Horton 27
Krejci 26
Rask 26
Khudobin 26
Mcquaid 26
Lucic 24
Marchand 24
Seguin 21
Hamilton 19

Then you have Spooner, Knight, Khovachlechev (sp?), Tardif, Suave, Caron, Subban etc...

Pretty good young core I'd say....
You're using a cut off of 27 years? At least keep it to 25...


Focusing on my team:

Kessel - 25
JVR - 23
Kadri - 22
Frattin - 25
Biggs - 19

Rielly - 19
Gardiner - 22
Percy - 19
Blacker - 21
Finn - 19

Reimer - 25


Those are to name a few; not the best young core; but respectable.

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Most teams have a decent young core.

Entry level contracts are a must these days.

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