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03-17-2013, 01:33 PM
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A proven #1 C isn't the only thing that would be good value in return for Spezza.
Then that means we're losing a number 1 center.

If that's the case then you need a damn good plan: some can't fail prospect in the system or another trade lined-up.

Murray could definitely get some good players if Spezza was traded but those players won't have as much of an impact if we lose our number 1 centerman: addition by subtraction doesn't work in the NHL.

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03-17-2013, 01:39 PM
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Sens are married to Spezza. Gotta learn to live wit it MAK.

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03-17-2013, 01:48 PM
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Lol.

Trading Spezza would be one of the biggest mistakes this franchise has made. Turris isn't a #1 center, and it's one of the hardest positions to fill.

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03-17-2013, 01:49 PM
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So Spezza's trade value is at an all-time low and you guys want to trade him? Do you not understand the principle of 'buy low sell high'? And if his back issues were such a big concern that Murray would want to get rid of him, then why would another GM want to deal with that? And then there's the issue of the NTC...

Just because we're doing well without him doesn't mean he isn't an integral part of the team. Im sure the second the Sens clinch the playoffs we'll start seeing the "trade Karlsson" proposals knowing some of the posters of this forum.

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03-17-2013, 03:14 PM
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So Spezza's trade value is at an all-time low and you guys want to trade him? Do you not understand the principle of 'buy low sell high'? And if his back issues were such a big concern that Murray would want to get rid of him, then why would another GM want to deal with that? And then there's the issue of the NTC...

Just because we're doing well without him doesn't mean he isn't an integral part of the team. Im sure the second the Sens clinch the playoffs we'll start seeing the "trade Karlsson" proposals knowing some of the posters of this forum.
His value is not at an all time low. Just wait for when he makes a come back and watch how far his value will fall.

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03-17-2013, 03:15 PM
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03-17-2013, 03:31 PM
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His value is not at an all time low. Just wait for when he makes a come back and watch how far his value will fall.
Last time Spezza came back from I believe a 20 game injury he put up 37 points in 30 games with 12 goals. Did I mention his wingers were Colin Greening and Bobby Butler?

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His value is not at an all time low. Just wait for when he makes a come back and watch how far his value will fall.

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Last time Spezza came back from I believe a 20 game injury he put up 37 points in 30 games with 12 goals. Did I mention his wingers were Colin Greening and Bobby Butler?
Oh ya, was it a back issue? Cool story.

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Oh ya, was it a back issue? Cool story.
Actually I'm pretty sure it was a back issue. In fact, I'm pretty sure everytime Spezza has had a back issue, he's come back and put up a PPG pace.

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Actually I'm pretty sure it was a back issue. In fact, I'm pretty sure everytime Spezza has had a back issue, he's come back and put up a PPG pace.
I think you are thinking of his shoulder injury suffered against Pits.

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I think you are thinking of his shoulder injury suffered against Pits.
There was that, and the year before he had a back injury.

This back stuff isn't a new thing for Spezza.

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03-17-2013, 04:57 PM
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Spezza had this injury before and played through it for 3 months. Apparently he was in miserable pain but he still managed like 90 points in 68 games.

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03-17-2013, 06:44 PM
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Spezza had this injury before and played through it for 3 months. Apparently he was in miserable pain but he still managed like 90 points in 68 games.
Oh yeah...I forgot that shoulders aren't as important as backs in professional sports. Tell me a cool story about the difference.

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03-18-2013, 09:09 AM
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Oh yeah...I forgot that shoulders aren't as important as backs in professional sports. Tell me a cool story about the difference.
His injury was probably congenital originally in which case he will always have a high chance of re-injury. Nobody who has back surgery comes back 100%, and if they did it will be short lived as basically everyone's back get worse over time. If this is how he is at his peak he might have a short career. You can't skate or do pretty much anything with a bad back as it supports your entire body. Your shoulder is definitely less important, and depending on what was wrong initially the surgery and recovery times are better.

Last time I checked he was not a pitcher in Toronto.

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I am afraid he will be one of those guys who has to retire relatively early. Let him come back and put up some pts, and then deal him. He is a great player, and it will be tough to let go of him, but it is simply good asset management.

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I am afraid he will be one of those guys who has to retire relatively early. Let him come back and put up some pts, and then deal him. He is a great player, and it will be tough to let go of him, but it is simply good asset management.
Spoken like a true video gamer.

In real life relationships go beyond simple "asset management". I wonder if you treat your family/friends/co-workers in this fashion...

We didn't become one of the top organizations in the league by treating players like mere assets.

Carry on.

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03-18-2013, 10:30 AM
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If Murray tries to deal him after such injury every other GM will think his back is done and he won't bring any good return. His value is relatively low now until he plays another full season.

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03-18-2013, 10:56 AM
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Oh yeah well I heard that Spezza was bitten in the leg by a venomous python and after 3 days of unbearable pain, the python finally let go...and then Spezza put up 30 points in 2 games.

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03-18-2013, 11:04 AM
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Spoken like a true video gamer.

In real life relationships go beyond simple "asset management". I wonder if you treat your family/friends/co-workers in this fashion...

We didn't become one of the top organizations in the league by treating players like mere assets.

Carry on.
Did you miss the Hossa-Heatley trade?

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03-18-2013, 11:05 AM
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Did you miss the Hossa-Heatley trade?
Did you miss the Muckler-Murray transition?

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Oh yeah well I heard that Spezza was bitten in the leg by a venomous python and after 3 days of unbearable pain, the python finally let go...and then Spezza put up 30 points in 2 games.
Source? Pythons are not venomous they are constrictors.

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03-18-2013, 11:06 AM
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Did you miss the Muckler-Murray transition?
Oh i'm sorry, I didn't realize the organization completely changed and erased its history once Murrary got the job.

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03-18-2013, 11:08 AM
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Source? Pythons are not venomous they are constrictors.
And that's what makes the story so good. Can't believe he ran into a venomous python.

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Oh i'm sorry, I didn't realize the organization completely changed and erased its history once Murrary got the job.
The organization's history is not at issue, it's its current values and modus operandi.

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