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03-17-2013, 01:10 PM
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Timmons sure does seem to have a special touch for the 5th round.

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Timmons sure does seem to have a special touch for the 5th round.
Hopefully this is more WHL 5th round gold too.

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The Habs are doing so well and I'm so happy about it I actually wasted some sunday afternoon time & made a mini-tribute vid.

Welcome to Montreal Dietz

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Wonder if this might light a fire under Thrower.

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Imagine if Beaulieu and Tinordi progress like they should...

Tinordi-Subban
Diaz-Beaulieu
Markov-Emelin

Gorges? Dietz? we're so stacked.

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03-17-2013, 02:30 PM
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Thanks for the info.. Glad to have another young asset in our system... Man talk about a 180 change in attitude and performance with this team.. I knew we were better then a 15th place team in the East but man this group is really impressing me! As a DIE HARD Habs fan, I didn't see this success right away! This reminds me of the late 80's where it was expected that the Habs would win most of their games.
Some credit has to go to the Gainey/Gauthier regime too for the rebuilding that began before MB arrived. Yes, they made mistakes, but they did not make ONLY mistakes.

For example, the move trading up to get Tinordi was the type of gamble that GMs are paid to decide whether they should make. It looks like it might have been worth it.

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I've been following Dietz in the CHL thread, but rarely watch WHL hockey other than to see the odd Hab prospect. I know he's getting good reviews from Blades followers and independent followers, but can anyone here who knows tell me more about why he fell to the 5th round and what he has done since to raise his stock.

I know he's a late bloomer and maybe went undrafted in the W but I'm just wondering what his all around game is about because I thought his offense was more of a product of his shot and not his ability to pick a pass or jump in on the rush?

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03-17-2013, 02:47 PM
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For fun, here's a record of all Timmins' round 5 draft picks:

2003: <no pick>
2004: Mikhail Grabovski
2005: Mathieu Aubin
2006: Pavel Valentenko
2007: Joe Stejskal, Andrew Conboy
2008: Maxim Trunev
2009: Gabriel Dumont
2010: Brendan Gallagher
2011: Darren Dietz
2012: Charles Hudon

He's been on fire for four years now in finding solid prospects!

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With Tinordi getting called up, Dietz signing and Nygren doing well, it's nice to see fans of this organization appreciating the depth on D this team has.

I remember when the Habs continously drafted D in the first few rounds, people complained about lack of offensive depth. You build from the net out and they have done that beautifully.

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03-17-2013, 03:02 PM
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Like you said, he's a gifted offensive D, he's often like a 4th forward out there, but he can also play a shutdown defensive role and has good size. He absolutely destroyed the WHL in the 2nd half of this season.

His skating is probably the part he needs to work on to maximize his NHL chances. It's not bad, but it's not really good either. Somewhere in-between.
I think in time he might surprise and be the best among Bealieu, Ellis , or Tinordi

I see a Gallagher type ( not a high draft pick , or heavily talked about but becomes a solid pro )

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03-17-2013, 03:07 PM
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I've been following Dietz in the CHL thread, but rarely watch WHL hockey other than to see the odd Hab prospect. I know he's getting good reviews from Blades followers and independent followers, but can anyone here who knows tell me more about why he fell to the 5th round and what he has done since to raise his stock.

I know he's a late bloomer and maybe went undrafted in the W but I'm just wondering what his all around game is about because I thought his offense was more of a product of his shot and not his ability to pick a pass or jump in on the rush?
I think he had raw talent but wasnt ready to show his true skills until a few yers into his WHL career , and we took a chance on him .

he seems to have an alround game and tough as well

we will get a better look when he gets to Hamilton

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For fun, here's a record of all Timmins' round 5 draft picks:

2003: <no pick>
2004: Mikhail Grabovski
2005: Mathieu Aubin
2006: Pavel Valentenko
2007: Joe Stejskal, Andrew Conboy
2008: Maxim Trunev
2009: Gabriel Dumont
2010: Brendan Gallagher
2011: Darren Dietz
2012: Charles Hudon

He's been on fire for four years now in finding solid prospects!
Where is Pavel Valentenko now ?

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03-17-2013, 03:08 PM
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With Tinordi getting called up, Dietz signing and Nygren doing well, it's nice to see fans of this organization appreciating the depth on D this team has.

I remember when the Habs continously drafted D in the first few rounds, people complained about lack of offensive depth. You build from the net out and they have done that beautifully.
agreed but not sure where Nygren fit long term with us

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Talked a bit about him in my rankings of the Habs prospects last summer http://everythinghockeyinquebec.blog...15-11-and.html

I'm happy for him, he has a professional attitude already.

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03-17-2013, 03:13 PM
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Where is Pavel Valentenko now ?
i think he went back to russia after his trade to the rangers

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03-17-2013, 03:53 PM
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Where is Pavel Valentenko now ?
Back in the KHL after his stint with Rangers farm team. I remember Timmins tirade about Valentenko when he was drafted, he said that he was Emelin with a better shot. Well...not exactly...

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03-17-2013, 08:01 PM
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I've been following Dietz in the CHL thread, but rarely watch WHL hockey other than to see the odd Hab prospect. I know he's getting good reviews from Blades followers and independent followers, but can anyone here who knows tell me more about why he fell to the 5th round and what he has done since to raise his stock.

I know he's a late bloomer and maybe went undrafted in the W but I'm just wondering what his all around game is about because I thought his offense was more of a product of his shot and not his ability to pick a pass or jump in on the rush?
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I think he had raw talent but wasnt ready to show his true skills until a few yers into his WHL career , and we took a chance on him .

he seems to have an alround game and tough as well

we will get a better look when he gets to Hamilton
Don't know about "wasn't ready to show his true skills". He was great for Saskatoon in his first full season - holding down a secondary pairing and becoming the second highest scoring defenseman for them in the playoffs and everything. Already had size and puck poise to go with that RH shot. I think the only reason anyone even lost track of him is because they saw Saskatoon's coach pair Thrower with Siemens on the top line the next season because of injury/pairing balance, leaving Dietz on line 2 in the depth chart. Thrower naturally ends up with more points, and later on gets taken in the 2nd round of the draft (lol), and everyone's like "Darren Who?"

Fast forward to this year, and Dietz has as many points as Siemens and Thrower combined, and is still playing as steady of defense for them as anyone not named Duncan. Whitesnake and I are welcoming y'all back to the Dietz bandwagon.

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03-17-2013, 08:31 PM
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Anyone know how Josiah Didier is doing from the same year? How likely is he to develop further?

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Anyone know how Josiah Didier is doing from the same year? How likely is he to develop further?
I caught a couple of their games on NBC a while ago. Can't remember the scores, but they beat the tar out of Nebraska in one, when Larraza (someone I've had more interest in since our mock draft that year) took over the show. I honestly couldn't tell you if Didier played or not from memory. Now, that can be a good thing for a quietly solid defender, but there's just so much more that's demanded from defensemen at higher levels. I also caught the game they played against Danny Kristo's boys, and it was pretty much the same thing, except I know he played in that one.

I just double checked his stats this year, and it's promising to see a bit of an increase in terms of points, it's obvious that he's not implicating himself in enough scoring plays, nor was he a conspicuously aggressive defender in my limited viewing this year, so my expectations for him are tempered. Still just 19, though, and seems to be in good hands in the Denver program and enjoying a bit of team success down there, so we'll see. Never underestimate the chances of a RH defenseman with a bit of size finding a niche somewhere.

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With Tinordi getting called up, Dietz signing and Nygren doing well, it's nice to see fans of this organization appreciating the depth on D this team has.

I remember when the Habs continously drafted D in the first few rounds, people complained about lack of offensive depth. You build from the net out and they have done that beautifully.
And I will never forgive Gainey for giving away McDonagh. I hated that trade then, and Gomez's play just made me hate it even more.

Worst Habs trade since Patrick Roy or damn close. Just imagine if we had McDonagh. I'm sad now.

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Underrated fella. Looking forward to seeing what he can bring to the Dogs.

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Just imagine if we had McDonagh. I'm sad now.
Gauthier would probably still be GM since we wouldn't have crashed and burned last year and we wouldn't have Galchenyuk as a result, so there was at least a good side to that atrocity of a trade.

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Where is Pavel Valentenko now ?
Nothing much: in KHL.

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Well deserved. Can't wait for the Memorial Cup to see him and Thrower in action

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