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03-17-2013, 08:38 PM
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I don't think most people in here understand what "core" means.

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03-17-2013, 08:45 PM
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With the exception of Scuderi..

Doughty
Voynov
Muzzin
Martinez
Ellerby

Kings D average age just a shade under 24. Not too shabby.

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03-17-2013, 08:50 PM
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I like ottawa's 25 and under too

Lehner-22
Karlsson-22
Cowen-22
Wiercoch-22
Zibanejad-20
Silfverberg-22
Turris-23
Gryba-24

Then other under 25
Cody Ceci
Mark Stone
JP Pageau
Shane Prince
Stephane Dacosta
Mike Hoffman
Mikael Wisktrand
Andre Petersson
Matt Peumpel
Stefan Noeson
Filatov? LOL
You forgot Zack Smith (25 in April) and Mark Boroweicki (23)

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03-17-2013, 08:59 PM
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I think Ottawa has best depth of youngsters in NHL, while Edmonton obviously has the most elite talent. Luckily for Ottawa they also have Karlsson + Spezza, and if Anderson doesnt regress they will have a #1 center, 1# defenseman and 1# goalie, which not many teams have.

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03-18-2013, 04:03 AM
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What's average about it?
The talent level in comparison to other teams around the league.

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03-18-2013, 07:30 AM
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Nice, there's 5 prospects from that large crop that will/might make the NHL. Time for a new scout Minnesota
Well Granlund, Brodin, Coyle, Larsson, Scandella, Zucker and Kuemper have already played this season, and he forgot Hackett too who is young played some games last year.

Our core is not the youngest (Koivu, Parise, Suter, Backstrom, Gilbert, Seto, Cullen) but those young players are really exciting and I'm quite sure most if not all will become regular NHL'ers. Brodin I already consider core at 19, and Coyle and Zucker have been impressive. Granlund has all the potential in the world. They will be considered core in few years. But I won't call them core yet like some people are calling their prospects. Our core is old but we have the prospects to replace them eventually.

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03-18-2013, 08:10 AM
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The talent level in comparison to other teams around the league.
A #1G, a #1D, a #1W and a future #1C along with some other complimentary pieces. That's better than the majority of the team's in the league.

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03-18-2013, 08:20 AM
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True Boston too. I guess we're just used to them being good so we don't really look at your team as young.

You really have poor D depth though.

Colorado is one of my favorites. Duchene, Landeskog, ROR, Johnson, Varlamov, McGinn, Downie
I'm not sure if you're serious?

GA - 57 (1st Place in the NHL)
PK - 1st Place

Chara - Boychuk
Hamilton - Seidenberg
Ference - McQuaid

Looks like a decent top 6 to me?

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03-18-2013, 08:37 AM
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I'm not sure if you're serious?

GA - 57 (1st Place in the NHL)
PK - 1st Place

Chara - Boychuk
Hamilton - Seidenberg
Ference - McQuaid

Looks like a decent top 6 to me?
Reading comprehension, can't buy it at Wal-marts, sadly.

Are we talking about 35+ core here ?

Or are we talking YOUNG?

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03-18-2013, 08:51 AM
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When did "core" turn into "mediocre but young?"

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03-18-2013, 08:57 AM
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Reading comprehension, can't buy it at Wal-marts, sadly.

Are we talking about 35+ core here ?

Or are we talking YOUNG?
Depth is the word you used. Depth. At what point is depth of a D Core measured by youth? You made a statement about depth in relation to youth which are two different things. You said our depth was poor.

If we're examining our top six in terms of youth, which is what you meant to say amidst an unnecessary comment about my intelligence while not knowing me, then:

Montreal (Average Age = 30.5)

Markov - 34
Georges - 28
Emelin - 26
Subban -23
Boullion - 37
Kaberle - 35

NOTE - (Not sure if Weber or Diaz oust Kaberle or not so bear with this)

Boston (Average Age = 29.1)

Chara - 36
Boychuk - 29
Hamilton - 19
Seidenberg - 31
Ference - 34
McQuaid - 26

Pretty close, no?

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03-18-2013, 09:08 AM
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Depth is the word you used. Depth. At what point is depth of a D Core measured by youth? You made a statement about depth in relation to youth which are two different things. You said our depth was poor.

If we're examining our top six in terms of youth, which is what you meant to say amidst an unnecessary comment about my intelligence while not knowing me, then:

Montreal (Average Age = 30.5)

Markov - 34
Georges - 28
Emelin - 26
Subban -23
Boullion - 37
Kaberle - 35

NOTE - (Not sure if Weber or Diaz oust Kaberle or not so bear with this)

Boston (Average Age = 29.1)

Chara - 36
Boychuk - 29
Hamilton - 19
Seidenberg - 31
Ference - 34
McQuaid - 26

Pretty close, no?
Replace Kaberle, who has been a perpetual healthy scratch with Diaz.

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03-18-2013, 09:09 AM
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Depth is the word you used. Depth. At what point is depth of a D Core measured by youth? You made a statement about depth in relation to youth which are two different things. You said our depth was poor.

If we're examining our top six in terms of youth, which is what you meant to say amidst an unnecessary comment about my intelligence while not knowing me, then:

Montreal (Average Age = 30.5)

Markov - 34
Georges - 28
Emelin - 26
Subban -23
Boullion - 37
Kaberle - 35

NOTE - (Not sure if Weber or Diaz oust Kaberle or not so bear with this)

Boston (Average Age = 29.1)

Chara - 36
Boychuk - 29
Hamilton - 19
Seidenberg - 31
Ference - 34
McQuaid - 26

Pretty close, no?
No not at all... It's fairly simple to understand.
Your young D depth is
Hamilton
McQuaid

Our is
Subban
Emelin
Diaz
(Tinordi, Pateryn, Weber, Beaulieu)

I think every single person who read my post understood what I said, why can't you?

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03-18-2013, 09:12 AM
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This thread is so subjective. Players that are 27-29 aren't that old...

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No not at all... It's fairly simple to understand.
Your young D depth is
Hamilton
McQuaid

Our is
Subban
Emelin
Diaz
(Tinordi, Pateryn, Weber, Beaulieu)
I think every single person who read my post understood what I said, why can't you?
Boston's young D depth actually Hamiton, McQuaid, Krug, Bartkowski, Warsofsky. Better depth of understanding goes a along way.

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Boston's young D depth actually Hamiton, McQuaid, Krug, Bartkowski, Warsofsky. Better depth of understanding goes a along way.
Who plays NHL?

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Who plays NHL?
Irrelevant. They have Chara, Seidenberg and Boychuk filling spots. Who on the Habs out of those listed would replace any of them? Only one is Subban.

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Who plays NHL?
Bartkowski, Warsofky already played NHL level. Krug will play NHL later this year.

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Who plays NHL?
Your anti-Bruin sentiment isn't helping. The ages were roughly almost the same. You named some prospects that have jumped in and out of the established Habs line-up, so did they. You cannot say either our age or depth are poor in terms of the CORE without comparing your own core. Our call-ups are young too.

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03-18-2013, 09:27 AM
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Replace Kaberle, who has been a perpetual healthy scratch with Diaz.
Thanks Captain Smurf. That's what I thought, but wasn't sure and didn't want to commit. I'd seen Kabs here and there when I've flipped to Habs games.

That makes the MTL core 29.1! an exact match. Weird!

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03-18-2013, 09:36 AM
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Your anti-Bruin sentiment isn't helping. The ages were roughly almost the same. You named some prospects that have jumped in and out of the established Habs line-up, so did they. You cannot say either our age or depth are poor in terms of the CORE without comparing your own core. Our call-ups are young too.
That's why they were not in my actual list.

Oh and I'm pretty sure Diaz would be your 3rd best Dman
I've discussed this with Bruins fans in this thread and they all agreed that they had poor D depth... I also credited the team and said they were one of the best young core in the NHL, your Bruins fan defensive system is not helping

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That's why they were not in my actual list.

Oh and I'm pretty sure Diaz would be your 3rd best Dman
I've discussed this with Bruins fans in this thread and they all agreed that they had poor D depth... I also credited the team and said they were one of the best young core in the NHL, your Bruins fan defensive system is not helping
You're getting angry and snippy and I'm just trying to talk, so here it is:

You used the term depth, which was wrong. I brought it up and showed the numbers on our D
You then referred to our CORE as being not young enough. No one attacked Diaz, but I wasn't sure if he was in your line-up so dial it back. Smurf told me and adding him in, I pointed out the ages are the EXACT same on average. Not a bit off, but exact.

Your conversations with someone else in some other thread, and them being a Bruins fan, is irrelevant. We pointed out the numbers for our D and the fact that they are performing amazingly this year.

You used POOR when describing our D Core. It was an incorrect.

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That's why they were not in my actual list.

Oh and I'm pretty sure Diaz would be your 3rd best Dman
I've discussed this with Bruins fans in this thread and they all agreed that they had poor D depth... I also credited the team and said they were one of the best young core in the NHL, your Bruins fan defensive system is not helping
I would take Chara, Seidenberg, Boychuk, Hamilton and even freaking McQuaid before I would ever take Diaz.

You continue to put the Habs on a pedestal. They aren't underachieving this season, but they still have a long way to go. Stop trying to bash other teams. Not to mention, playoffs are a whole different ball game, and the Bruins are built for a long run.

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Flames win this by a mile:

Iginla - 35
Tanguay - 33
Jay Bo - 29
Kipper - 36


I know you are all super jealous.

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OP should have defined "core". Some of these lists are depressing.

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