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03-18-2013, 12:36 PM
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I would really like to see Brian Campbell here. There is always lots of talk about Jbo, but Campbell is a similar but better player. He's also only 3 mil/year more than Whitney for another 2 years.

I wonder what it would take to get him?


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That's an awesome but affordable D core.
The extra $3M/year is going to be a lot, especially when the cap goes down next year. Also I know the pairings would be more fluid but $7.1M/year for a 3rd pairing guy?....

It's too bad because I actually really like Campbell's game.

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03-18-2013, 12:39 PM
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I would really like to see Brian Campbell here. There is always lots of talk about Jbo, but Campbell is a similar but better player. He's also only 3 mil/year more than Whitney for another 2 years.

I wonder what it would take to get him?


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That's an awesome but affordable D core.
I'd take Jbo any day over Campbell, JBo skates better, passes better, and is still very responsible, and actually wouldn't be a 3rd pairing dman like you suggest.

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03-18-2013, 12:46 PM
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I would really like to see Brian Campbell here. There is always lots of talk about Jbo, but Campbell is a similar but better player. He's also only 3 mil/year more than Whitney for another 2 years.

I wonder what it would take to get him?


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That's an awesome but affordable D core.
A defenseman making 7.14 on our team that isn't an elite #1 will be crippling. Campbell has 3 years left on this deal.

Core guys we need to sign during the time of Campbells existing deal....

2013 - Gagner, Smid, Paajarvi
2014 - Nugent-Hopkins, Schultz J, Petry, Dubnyk
2015 - Yakupov

Doesn't fit with what we are doing and above all else, if your spending over 7 million, he better be elite. Campbell is not.

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03-18-2013, 12:53 PM
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I'd take Jbo any day over Campbell, JBo skates better, passes better, and is still very responsible, and actually wouldn't be a 3rd pairing dman like you suggest.
Wait what? Campbell is arguably the better player. Not to mention he has a Stanley cup while jbo doesn't even have 1 playoff game in his entire hockey career!

And Campbell is an unbelievable skater too, has a much better offensive mind and can move the puck just as well.

I like Jay but boy, u make Campbell sound like some washed up bum when he's in fact, probably better than jaybo

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03-18-2013, 12:55 PM
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I would really like to see Brian Campbell here. There is always lots of talk about Jbo, but Campbell is a similar but better player. He's also only 3 mil/year more than Whitney for another 2 years.

I wonder what it would take to get him?


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That's an awesome but affordable D core.
Tell me EXACTLY how is this an affordable D core? "Only 3 mill/year more than whitney"?

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03-18-2013, 01:00 PM
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Wait what? Campbell is arguably the better player. Not to mention he has a Stanley cup while jbo doesn't even have 1 playoff game in his entire hockey career!

And Campbell is an unbelievable skater too, has a much better offensive mind and can move the puck just as well.

I like Jay but boy, u make Campbell sound like some washed up bum when he's in fact, probably better than jaybo
Hard to compare playoff numbers to a guy who has been on terrible teams his whole career, and a guy who has played on solid teams.

Both great skaters, I think Jbo is more fluid and confident when he plays (just how I see it) both make great passes, and make very smart decisions out of there end, Campbell, better offensively given his power play QB ability, Jbo, bigger, stronger, insanely durable.

Campbell washed up bum? no. I just see it as Jbo, has a lot more to offer.

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03-18-2013, 01:03 PM
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Tell me EXACTLY how is this an affordable D core? "Only 3 mill/year more than whitney"?
And I'm still trying to figure out how it's an "awesome" D core...

Smid and Petry are 4/5 D, not top 2. The only one top 2 there would probably be Campbell but I shudder at that price. J Schultz may be top 2 someday but it's too soon and he's starting to get burned out.
N Schultz is an ok 6/7 guy, as well as Fistric.

We need 2 more top 2/4 defencemen to make this even a "good" defence so it pushes the current guys down...and a $7m 33 year old isn't going to cut it.

XXX - XXX
J Schultz - Smid
Petry - Fistric/Schultz

is what we need to have a good core D.

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03-18-2013, 01:12 PM
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I would really like to see Brian Campbell here. There is always lots of talk about Jbo, but Campbell is a similar but better player. He's also only 3 mil/year more than Whitney for another 2 years.

I wonder what it would take to get him?


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Schultz- Schultz
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Klefbom

That's an awesome but affordable D core.
i agree and campbell would be a perfect mentor for Schultz, take some of the offensive responsibility away. also campbells contract is done right when schultz needs a raise so the timing would be perfect. vet player that can also fil in the vet shoes for whitney when/if he gets traded.

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03-18-2013, 01:20 PM
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That Tinordi rumour sounds pretty decent. If Montreal is interested in Smid, and Smid is asking for a ton, I'd seriously consider a Tinordi-Smid swap. Tinordi is big, physical, decent skills, comes from good stock and doesn't carry any injury issues that Smid does. Yes, it may be a step back for now but it may also be a step forward in the ultimate goal of winning Stanley Cups. If Smid is asking for $4 million or above I'm pulling the trigger.

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03-18-2013, 01:21 PM
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Looks like the Jets are after RW scoring help, post on main board.

How about this?

RW - A.Hemsky 5mil next season (hate to lose him but cap coming down and its obvious one of Horcoff or Hemmer has to go)
add in one of our depth blueliners (Potter or Peckham)

FOR

D - Z.Bogosian 2.5mil RFA next season (would be a perfect blueliner to build around easily a top 4 guy)
add in a depth forward in the deal to help the bottom six.

Then ship out Whitney as he has gained trade value of late.

Rest of this season: (and if we resign 4 of them, they could be 2013/14 D core too)
Bogosian J.Schultz
Smid Petry
N.Schultz Fistric

I remember former Oiler Charlie Huddy had great things to say about Bogosian when he was coaching for the Jets.

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03-18-2013, 01:21 PM
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I would really like to see Brian Campbell here. There is always lots of talk about Jbo, but Campbell is a similar but better player. He's also only 3 mil/year more than Whitney for another 2 years.

I wonder what it would take to get him?


Smid-Petry
Schultz- Schultz
Campbell-Fistric
Klefbom

That's an awesome but affordable D core.
If we're paying Campbell money to a defenseman, it better not be Campbell. They better be a top pairing guy too.


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03-18-2013, 01:28 PM
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Kuba would be nice. We could probably snag him for a prospect too. He would shore up the D for the push here.

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03-18-2013, 01:33 PM
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Looks like the Jets are after RW scoring help, post on main board.

How about this?

RW - A.Hemsky 5mil next season (hate to lose him but cap coming down and its obvious one of Horcoff or Hemmer has to go)
add in one of our depth blueliners (Potter or Peckham)

FOR

D - Z.Bogosian 2.5mil RFA next season (would be a perfect blueliner to build around easily a top 4 guy)
add in a depth forward in the deal to help the bottom six.

Then ship out Whitney as he has gained trade value of late.

Rest of this season: (and if we resign 4 of them, they could be 2013/14 D core too)
Bogosian J.Schultz
Smid Petry
N.Schultz Fistric

I remember former Oiler Charlie Huddy had great things to say about Bogosian when he was coaching for the Jets.
Jets won't deal Bogosian for Hemsky

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03-18-2013, 01:35 PM
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I wonder if any team would take a flyer on Tyler Meyers. His contract is pretty hefty but for a guy that was touted as the next Chara this could be an excellent buy low opportunity.

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03-18-2013, 01:38 PM
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Looks like the Jets are after RW scoring help, post on main board.

How about this?

RW - A.Hemsky 5mil next season (hate to lose him but cap coming down and its obvious one of Horcoff or Hemmer has to go)
add in one of our depth blueliners (Potter or Peckham)

FOR

D - Z.Bogosian 2.5mil RFA next season (would be a perfect blueliner to build around easily a top 4 guy)
add in a depth forward in the deal to help the bottom six.

Then ship out Whitney as he has gained trade value of late.

Rest of this season: (and if we resign 4 of them, they could be 2013/14 D core too)
Bogosian J.Schultz
Smid Petry
N.Schultz Fistric

I remember former Oiler Charlie Huddy had great things to say about Bogosian when he was coaching for the Jets.
Jets laugh at this. I'd offer Eberle/Yakupov for Bogosian.

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I wonder if any team would take a flyer on Tyler Meyers. His contract is pretty hefty but for a guy that was touted as the next Chara this could be an excellent buy low opportunity.
The potential payoff sounds amazing, but he would cost too much. I wouldn't want to give up much for him. He was supposed to make 12 million dollars this year. That's crazy.

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03-18-2013, 01:39 PM
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I would have no problem moving Lander in a deal for Ott.

I wonder if you could expand it,

To BUF: Hartikainen, Lander and 2 2nd round picks

To Edm: Ott and Stafford
Sign me up to that deal, Ott is exactly what we need....even tho I can't stand the guy when we played him.

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03-18-2013, 01:46 PM
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Jets laugh at this. I'd offer Eberle/Yakupov for Bogosian.
There is no way Bogosian is worth more then Eberle and/or Yakupov

His career has been at a stand still, was in the same draft as Pietrangelo and Doughty, Eberle and Yakupov are type of wingers you would move for Pietrangelo or Doughty type D man.

I still have hope in Bogo, but he is not worth those two sorry.

Is Hemsky too low? maybe....throw in a 2nd rd pick then.

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03-18-2013, 01:53 PM
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There is no way Bogosian is worth more then Eberle and/or Yakupov

His career has been at a stand still, was in the same draft as Pietrangelo and Doughty, Eberle and Yakupov are type of wingers you would move for Pietrangelo or Doughty type D man.

I still have hope in Bogo, but he is not worth those two sorry.

Is Hemsky too low? maybe....throw in a 2nd rd pick then.
Why does Winnipeg trade their best defensemen who's only 22 years old for a year of Hemsky and a 2nd round pick?

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03-18-2013, 01:54 PM
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The Jets are not trading Bogo. Guy is developing into a really good shutdown Defender with offense. The Jets are also trying to build something and they are not going to give up good young players that are developing for a "chance".

If Hemsky goes it will be for a late 1st/prospect or 2nd/Ready AHLer. Think teams like Anaheim,Pittsburgh or Boston who may want to add some help on the wings right now because they have a real good shot at a cup

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03-18-2013, 01:56 PM
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There is no way Bogosian is worth more then Eberle and/or Yakupov

His career has been at a stand still, was in the same draft as Pietrangelo and Doughty, Eberle and Yakupov are type of wingers you would move for Pietrangelo or Doughty type D man.

I still have hope in Bogo, but he is not worth those two sorry.

Is Hemsky too low? maybe....throw in a 2nd rd pick then.
Oh good lord - take a look at WHY winnipeg is looking for scoring help.

Answer: its because they're trying to make a playoff run.

Why on earth would they give up Bogosian who is on their roster currently? That would be counterproductive to a team who is trying to make the playoffs.

If they're making a trade for help now, then they would probably be only willing to give up prospects, picks any one not currently helping them make their playoff run.

The 2nd round pick in addition to Hemsky, is just laughable.

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03-18-2013, 01:58 PM
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I don't understand WPG I heard they are willing to move a bunch of guys, but at the same time I have to ask why they'd be unloading anyone? This is a team that has a chance at winning a weak division. If anything they should be open to moving some picks/prospects in hopes of taking advantage of this chance before re-alignmnent takes over.

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There is no way Bogosian is worth more then Eberle and/or Yakupov

His career has been at a stand still, was in the same draft as Pietrangelo and Doughty, Eberle and Yakupov are type of wingers you would move for Pietrangelo or Doughty type D man.

I still have hope in Bogo, but he is not worth those two sorry.

Is Hemsky too low? maybe....throw in a 2nd rd pick then.
You are overvaluing Eberle/Yakupov. Petro/Doughty are completely out of reach.


And Bogo's career has not been at a stand still, hes easily a 1st pairing Dman, and would be our best right now.


If i was a WPG fan he'd be #2 behind Kane in terms of value.

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I don't understand WPG I heard they are willing to move a bunch of guys, but at the same time I have to ask why they'd be unloading anyone? This is a team that has a chance at winning a weak division. If anything they should be open to moving some picks/prospects in hopes of taking advantage of this chance before re-alignmnent takes over.
I could see Burmistrov for Hemsky but Bogo isn't going anywhere.

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I could see Burmistrov for Hemsky but Bogo isn't going anywhere.
If their is a way to get Bogo out of WPG, it won't be during the season as they contend for the playoffs.

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