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03-18-2013, 12:46 PM
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AVALANCHE : Duchene, Landeskog, O'Rielly? great young core
Varly and EJ are still pretty young too.

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03-18-2013, 12:47 PM
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Colorado.

Youngest captain and a really talented 2-way forward, really young and talented goalie, star center is 22 or something like that and they have a young defender with first parining/#1 potential.

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03-18-2013, 12:54 PM
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With Crosby, Malkin and Letang leading the way I just can't pick anyone else.

Upfront Crosby 25, Malkin 26, Neal 25, Bennett 21, Sutter 23. Not much for high end prospects in the system for Forwards, but some with potential in Blueger, Kuhnhackl, Archibald & Zlobin.

Defense is obviously strong with Letang 25, Despres 21 and Bortuzzo 23 already on the roster. Then the prospect list is one of the best in the NHL with Morrow, Pouliot, Maatta, Dumoulin & Harrington.

Only issue for me is goaltending. Fleury is still fairly young at 28, but past him they really have nobody in the system worth noting.

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03-18-2013, 01:01 PM
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With Crosby, Malkin and Letang leading the way I just can't pick anyone else.

Upfront Crosby 25, Malkin 26, Neal 25, Bennett 21, Sutter 23. Not much for high end prospects in the system for Forwards, but some with potential in Blueger, Kuhnhackl, Archibald & Zlobin.

Defense is obviously strong with Letang 25, Despres 21 and Bortuzzo 23 already on the roster. Then the prospect list is one of the best in the NHL with Morrow, Pouliot, Maatta, Dumoulin & Harrington.

Only issue for me is goaltending. Fleury is still fairly young at 28, but past him they really have nobody in the system worth noting.
That's it? You guys worried? I'd be thinking about tanking for some new talent

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03-18-2013, 01:08 PM
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With Crosby, Malkin and Letang leading the way I just can't pick anyone else.

Upfront Crosby 25, Malkin 26, Neal 25, Bennett 21, Sutter 23. Not much for high end prospects in the system for Forwards, but some with potential in Blueger, Kuhnhackl, Archibald & Zlobin.

Defense is obviously strong with Letang 25, Despres 21 and Bortuzzo 23 already on the roster. Then the prospect list is one of the best in the NHL with Morrow, Pouliot, Maatta, Dumoulin & Harrington.

Only issue for me is goaltending. Fleury is still fairly young at 28, but past him they really have nobody in the system worth noting.
How is the defense obviously strong? Pitt's defense is very mediocre. Pitt has perhaps the best young core of forwards. Defensively and goaltending-wise, I would not agree.

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03-18-2013, 01:19 PM
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How is the defense obviously strong? Pitt's defense is very mediocre. Pitt has perhaps the best young core of forwards. Defensively and goaltending-wise, I would not agree.
I maybe should have said "will be strong". They deserve a lot of flack for their goaltending/defense this year I agree, but they are coming around in that regard. 5 GA in past 5 GP. Letang could very well win the Norris this year, Despres has looked great and I don't think anyone can argue that they have one of the best group of defensive prospects in the league. I meant to refer to the future.

Goaltending yes, until proven otherwise will be their achilles heel. They definitely need some something in the pipeline soon.

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03-18-2013, 01:21 PM
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Yeah, I gave up with you.
I tried explaining it to you kindly but you just denied all I said and came back with another foolish argument.

It's not statistics, opinion or anything subjective. It's facts.

Your NHL D corp is old and you only have McQuaid and Hamilton under 26 that can make an impact right now... This is what this thread is about.
Members of the team that makes an impact right now and in the future.
Will Chara make an impact in the future ? No, he'll be long gone. Seidenberg ? NO. Ference? No. Boychuck? NO.

Your D depth is weak as of right now, and there's nothing to more to say about that.
You still have one of the best young core in the league and I never denied that.
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Thank you for acknowledging our team as a whole, but the second statement about making an impact right now is debatable since they have allowed the least amount of goals in the NHL. Right now, which is what you said, that's good is it not?

We have youth waiting that are very promising, but do you move people out when they are posting the best defensive numbers? What would you do in this case? Would you sacrifice the most working system we have to bring in players JUST based on youth and not actual defensive depth? There's a new thread in itself LOL
No matter how you twist it you're wrong and you don't want to acknowledge it.
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How is the defense obviously strong? Pitt's defense is very mediocre. Pitt has perhaps the best young core of forwards. Defensively and goaltending-wise, I would not agree.
Well seeing as Despres is a top 4 dman at 22 years old and Letang is a top Dman in the league and that they have one of the best D pool in the league, I'd say it's pretty much a strenght.

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03-18-2013, 01:35 PM
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No matter how you twist it you're wrong and you don't want to acknowledge it.
Anyway, I think we're done here.


Well seeing as Despres is a top 4 dman at 22 years old and Letang is a top Dman in the league and that they have one of the best D pool in the league, I'd say it's pretty much a strenght.
Wow... I am not rephrasing anything. You made 2 points:

1) We had no depth, which is how deep your core is - We replied with the fact that we have let the fewest goals in the NHL and are # 1 on the PK

2) We are too old - We matched our average age to yours exactly which is apparently not old.

Move on from that. We have opinions, and because you can't see anything other than yours despite many others disagreeing, does not give you the right to state anyone is "Wrong". That can be your opinion, but fact, as you stated, it is not. Said and done.

I asked you a question about changing the stingiest D core to add youth for the sake of adding youth that is ready and available. Would you do so, just to gain experience, or keep what is happening going? It is a fair question.

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03-18-2013, 01:46 PM
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Anyway, I think we're done here.


Well seeing as Despres is a top 4 dman at 22 years old and Letang is a top Dman in the league and that they have one of the best D pool in the league, I'd say it's pretty much a strenght.
Being a top 4 D-Man on a mediocre defense is not impressive. That just means that you are one of the primary reasons for it being mediocre...

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03-18-2013, 01:51 PM
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F - Nail Yakupov
F - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
F - Taylor Hall
F - Jordan Eberle
F - Sam Gagner
F - Magnus Paajarvi
F - Teemu Hartikainen

D - Justin Schultz
D - ...

G - ...

If it was possible to win without any defense, the Oilers would have a dynasty in the making.

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03-18-2013, 01:54 PM
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Being a top 4 D-Man on a mediocre defense is not impressive. That just means that you are one of the primary reasons for it being mediocre...
Great argument there. Pittsburgh is not as mediocre as you say they are. They have a great future and a better future than most teams in the NHL.

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03-18-2013, 02:13 PM
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The Anaheim Ducks, I think, have struck gold in these past few drafts. Not much 1st line potential, but with Getzlaf and Ryan lock up, this team looks primed to develop great 2nd and 3rd liners (everyone knows that 1st line isn't enough to win).

Young players or not so young, I think this thread has derailed from the point so I'm gonna include Getzlaf (signed 8 years, that's Duck for life).

So let's make a 1st tier speculative core:

F - Getzlaf (27) (NHLer)
F - Ryan (26) (NHLer)
F - Etem (20) (NHLer)
D - Fowler (21) (NHLer)
D - Lindholm (19)
G - Gibson (19)

Now, how about potential second tier:
F - Holland (22) (NHLer)
F - Palmieri (22) (NHLer)
F - Rakell (19)
D - Sbisa (23) (NHLer)
D - Vatanen (21)
G - Andersen (23)

And the 3rd tier:
F - Smith-Pelly (20)
F - Kerdiles (19)
F - Wagner (21)
F - Karlsson (20)
F - Sarault (21)
F - Roy (19) (long-shot)
F - Friberg (20) (long-shot)
D - Gagne (20)
D - Welinski (19) (long-shot)
D - Clark (22) (long-shot)
G - Bobkov (22) (long-shot)

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03-18-2013, 02:47 PM
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St. Louis. The Blues will win the Cup sometime in the next 5 years.

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03-18-2013, 03:01 PM
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Great argument there. Pittsburgh is not as mediocre as you say they are. They have a great future and a better future than most teams in the NHL.
Pittsburgh has a great future to be certain, but it's not because of their defense. That's all I'm saying.

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Pittsburgh has a great future to be certain, but it's not because of their defense. That's all I'm saying.
It's pretty much a consensus that the Pens have the best prospect pool on defense.

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St. Louis. The Blues will win the Cup sometime in the next 5 years.

Have a power forward beast coming up too. Jaskin is one of the best kept prospect secrets in the league.

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Hags 24
Kreider 21
Stepan 22
Miller 20
Callahan 27
Nash 28

MDZ 22
Mcd 23
Sauer 25( hopefully plays again)
Staal 25
Girardi 28

Hank 31 (still young at heart)

In the wings
Thomas
St Croix
Hirvik
Fasth
Lindberg

McIrath
Sjkei

I like rangers as prob the best young d core in the league

Flyers Pitts bruins Hawks have the best young fw core in the league.. straight stacked

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Leafs have the second youngest roster in the league and are currently in the playoffs.

The future looks bright.

JVR (23)
Kadri (22)
Kessel (25)
Frattin (25)
Reimer (25)
Gardiner (22)
Phaneuf (27)
Franson (25)
Lupul (29)

This is essentially our core.

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03-18-2013, 04:05 PM
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Is he a core to the team right now ? If he goes down for a long time do we still remain a threat ? Gallagher makes a major impact on this team. Galchenyuk was an overblown statement.
Yeah, and let's say next season he goes into a slump and gets 10 points in 82 games.. according to you he suddenly won't be core anymore..

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Isles arent super deep at the NHl level just yet:

Cizikas-22
Hamonic-22
JT-22
Bailey-23
Martin-23
Grabner-25
Amac-26

But, kids who are just about ready to make the next step and join the core:
Nino-20
Brock Nelson-21
Calvin de Haan-21
Matt Donovan-21
Poulin-22
Nilsson-22

And kids who should be a big part of the future:
Scott Mayfield-20
Strome-19
Reinhart-19
Anders Lee-22

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Isles arent super deep at the NHl level just yet:

Cizikas-22
Hamonic-22
JT-22
Bailey-23
Martin-23
Grabner-25
Amac-26

But, kids who are just about ready to make the next step and join the core:
Nino-20
Brock Nelson-21
Calvin de Haan-21
Matt Donovan-21
Poulin-22
Nilsson-22

And kids who should be a big part of the future:
Scott Mayfield-20
Strome-19
Reinhart-19
Anders Lee-22
Wow, that actually looks pretty dangerous.

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Yeah, and let's say next season he goes into a slump and gets 10 points in 82 games.. according to you he suddenly won't be core anymore..
he will still be core, just hard-core sux instead

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Is this a "List My Team's Prospets" thread or "Best Young Core"?

LA, Boston, Pittsburgh...Chicago is nice too except Hossa and Sharp aren't exactly young.

All of these teams have one big thing in common...it's really shiny and you can pour stuff into the top of it.

You're out to lunch if you list any other teams than the ones listed above. The core players on these teams, outside of Chara, Sharp and Hossa are young and they've all won championships in the last five seasons.

Everyone else is just potential and can't be included with these squads until they win something or the aforementioned cores are no longer "young".

St. Louis just got ****kicked by one of the youngest teams in the league in last year's playoffs. I like their young talent, I really do, but they can not be the answer. Only players on the LA roster over 30 that contributed to the Cup are Mitchell and Scuderi. Not too shabby.

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Read the first couple of pages in this thread and all it is is people naming their own team, so stupid.

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N yakupov - 19
T Hall - 21
J Eberle - 22
S Gagner - 23
J Schultz - 22
Ryan Nugent Hopkins - 19
Magnus Paajarvi - 21

very young core but they still have much to prove.

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