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Colorado/Buffalo -Ennis for Statsny

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03-19-2013, 02:18 PM
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Colorado/Buffalo -Ennis for Statsny

Buffalo adds a veteran center who can actually take a faceoff but whose offensive numbers really don't match his cap number the past couple of years

Colorado adds a much younger dynamic Center/winger who can provide some speed and playmaking.

Their production has been similar over the last 3 years, though, Ennis has never hit the 70+ pt numbers that he put up early in his career.

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03-19-2013, 02:22 PM
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Avs have enough small players. Add the fact that Hishon will be playing now with the Monsters makes this deal even less appealing.

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03-19-2013, 02:23 PM
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No thanks. We really need defense back if we are trading Stastny.

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Why do we want to pay an extra $3.5 million for a player who produces less?

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Dear God no. Want no part of Stastny with that contract.

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03-19-2013, 02:25 PM
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Colorado would be best served if they trade Stastny for defense and draft Drouin. Calgary is a good trade partner for them.

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03-19-2013, 02:44 PM
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Colorado would be best served if they trade Stastny for defense and draft Drouin. Calgary is a good trade partner for them.
Colorado will draft Seth Jones if he's on the board when they're picking without a doubt in my mind, he's just what this team needs, a big defenseman with franchise potential, can play both sides off the ice and to top it all of he's an Avs fan whose favourite player is Joe Sakic. Plus they have another gem in the rough with Sgarbossa down in the AHL who could replace Paulie down the road.

The ideal scenario for the Avs this offseason would be:

- O'Reilly, Duchene, EJ, Varlamov all re-signed to new long term deals
- Stastny traded for JBo, replaced by Sgarbossa in the depth chart with Radar and Duchene becoming the true top 6 centers
- Sacco fired and replaced by someone from the Roy/Martin/Cooper/Eakins quartet
- draft Seth Jones if he's on the board when they're picking
- trade some of the depth defensemen from the NHL roster (Zanon, O'Brien, Wilson)
That would give them a defense that would look something like this in the next season:

JBo-EJ
Hejda-Barrie
Jones-Elliott
Wilson/O'Brien

And it could look like this down the road:

Jones-EJ
JBo-Barrie
Siemens-Elliott

Of course this is a fantasy, but with a bit of luck and by making some moves on the trade market it could happen.

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03-19-2013, 02:54 PM
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No thanks. Not interested in adding more overpaid players to this roster (we already have plenty of guys failing to live up to their cap hit), especially since Ennis is the better player per dollar right now. Nor am I really interested in trading away youth for anything other than youth. If we move Ennis, I'd rather it be in a deal for a similar-aged defenseman or a shutdown center.

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03-19-2013, 02:55 PM
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Stastny needs to be traded for a d... its the only way he is traded.

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03-19-2013, 02:57 PM
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Colorado would be best served if they trade Stastny for defense and draft Drouin. Calgary is a good trade partner for them.
No we aren't. We need to dump cap, not add to our problem. We do need a center, but not one being outplayed by Matt Stajan at twice the cost.

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Colorado will draft Seth Jones if he's on the board when they're picking without a doubt in my mind, he's just what this team needs, a big defenseman with franchise potential, can play both sides off the ice and to top it all of he's an Avs fan whose favourite player is Joe Sakic. Plus they have another gem in the rough with Sgarbossa down in the AHL who could replace Paulie down the road.

The ideal scenario for the Avs this offseason would be:

- O'Reilly, Duchene, EJ, Varlamov all re-signed to new long term deals
- Stastny traded for JBo, replaced by Sgarbossa in the depth chart with Radar and Duchene becoming the true top 6 centers
- Sacco fired and replaced by someone from the Roy/Martin/Cooper/Eakins quartet
- draft Seth Jones if he's on the board when they're picking
- trade some of the depth defensemen from the NHL roster (Zanon, O'Brien, Wilson)
That would give them a defense that would look something like this in the next season:

JBo-EJ
Hejda-Barrie
Jones-Elliott
Wilson/O'Brien

And it could look like this down the road:

Jones-EJ
JBo-Barrie
Siemens-Elliott

Of course this is a fantasy, but with a bit of luck and by making some moves on the trade market it could happen.
Why would we trade JBo now that he is finally performing for a player with the same contract who isn't? Stastny gets worse every year and JBo is finally earning his paycheque. If we move JBo it would be for some youth and a cap dump. If Stastny is the cap dump there had better be some good young pieces/picks coming back.

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03-19-2013, 03:01 PM
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The last thing the Sabres need is another over paid under producing forward. No thanks.

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03-19-2013, 03:06 PM
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Colorado will draft Seth Jones if he's on the board when they're picking without a doubt in my mind, he's just what this team needs, a big defenseman with franchise potential, can play both sides off the ice and to top it all of he's an Avs fan whose favourite player is Joe Sakic. Plus they have another gem in the rough with Sgarbossa down in the AHL who could replace Paulie down the road.

The ideal scenario for the Avs this offseason would be:

- O'Reilly, Duchene, EJ, Varlamov all re-signed to new long term deals
- Stastny traded for JBo, replaced by Sgarbossa in the depth chart with Radar and Duchene becoming the true top 6 centers
- Sacco fired and replaced by someone from the Roy/Martin/Cooper/Eakins quartet
- draft Seth Jones if he's on the board when they're picking
- trade some of the depth defensemen from the NHL roster (Zanon, O'Brien, Wilson)
That would give them a defense that would look something like this in the next season:

JBo-EJ
Hejda-Barrie
Jones-Elliott
Wilson/O'Brien

And it could look like this down the road:

Jones-EJ
JBo-Barrie
Siemens-Elliott

Of course this is a fantasy, but with a bit of luck and by making some moves on the trade market it could happen.
True, I just don't see you guys getting the top pick.

I just hope Sacco gets an extension since we'll be division rivals.

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03-19-2013, 03:10 PM
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Colorado will draft Seth Jones if he's on the board when they're picking without a doubt in my mind, he's just what this team needs, a big defenseman with franchise potential, can play both sides off the ice and to top it all of he's an Avs fan whose favourite player is Joe Sakic. Plus they have another gem in the rough with Sgarbossa down in the AHL who could replace Paulie down the road.

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If that's the case, you guys are permitted to out-tank us. No rope-a-dope, though. I don't want to see you guys drafting MacKinnon or Drouin!

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True, I just don't see you guys getting the top pick.

I just hope Sacco gets an extension since we'll be division rivals.
Well his contract runs until 2014, so we can look forward to seeing him play sieves like Zanon, O'Byrne and O'Brien over Tyson Barrie who was our best defenseman while EJ was out for quite some time

There's been some rumblings that Pierre Lacroix already reached out to Patrick Roy in attempts to hire him as the Avs HC.

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No we aren't. We need to dump cap, not add to our problem. We do need a center, but not one being outplayed by Matt Stajan at twice the cost.
I was just basing it on your managements desire to not actually rebuild and go after roster players. Something around JayBo and Stastny can make sense based on that. Not saying I agree with that philosophy though.

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If that's the case, you guys are permitted to out-tank us. No rope-a-dope, though. I don't want to see you guys drafting MacKinnon or Drouin!
We have a deal good sir!

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03-19-2013, 03:21 PM
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I was just basing it on your managements desire to not actually rebuild and go after roster players. Something around JayBo and Stastny can make sense based on that. Not saying I agree with that philosophy though.
That's fair. It's certainly been our history. I seriously hope it's not our future, but each day I grow less surprised with ownerships unwillingness to see reality. If we don't move out our expiring contracts at minimum and hopefully more, I'll be very disappointed.

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No thanks.

It's all about getting/staying younger in Buffalo right now.

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