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03-19-2013, 10:43 PM
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What happens if Bert and Sammy come back next year? What happens if Cleary and Miller get the typical Red Wings veteran loyalty hand-out contract? What if they decide Andersson is better suited for a bottom 6 role and our top 6 is all set?

Like I said... I'll believe it when I see it.
Then he will be in the press box next year drawing our ire that way. Rest assured unless traded, Nyquist will be on the Detroit roster in some capacity next season. The real worry is Tatar on this whole subject.

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03-19-2013, 10:53 PM
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Then he will be in the press box next year drawing our ire that way. Rest assured unless traded, Nyquist will be on the Detroit roster in some capacity next season. The real worry is Tatar on this whole subject.
I really don't know why Holland doesn't get more flak for going completely overkill on the amount of forwards he has under contract. People tried to say oh well look at all the injuries Holland's a genius. When in reality Helm, Sammy, and Bert are all hurt and both Nyquist and Tatar are still in GR. And even next year after Nyquist has been ppg for over 100 games consistently in the AHL, and Tatar looked very very good in his short stint in the NHL, at least 1 guy will most likely not be on the roster next year. Absolutely terrible roster planning on Holland's part, considering the transition this team needs to undergo in the very near future.

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03-20-2013, 07:34 AM
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I really don't know why Holland doesn't get more flak for going completely overkill on the amount of forwards he has under contract. People tried to say oh well look at all the injuries Holland's a genius. When in reality Helm, Sammy, and Bert are all hurt and both Nyquist and Tatar are still in GR. And even next year after Nyquist has been ppg for over 100 games consistently in the AHL, and Tatar looked very very good in his short stint in the NHL, at least 1 guy will most likely not be on the roster next year. Absolutely terrible roster planning on Holland's part, considering the transition this team needs to undergo in the very near future.
I can´t understand why Tatar was sent down... He was awesome, and brings that wonderful blend of skill and tenacity/energy/hustle. He outperformed every single bottom 6 player, and outshone Nyquist by quite a bit in the process.

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03-20-2013, 08:44 AM
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I can´t understand why Tatar was sent down... He was awesome, and brings that wonderful blend of skill and tenacity/energy/hustle. He outperformed every single bottom 6 player, and outshone Nyquist by quite a bit in the process.
Eaves, Miller, Abby, Sammy, Bert, Cleary

Atleast 2 of these need to go so Nyquist and Tatar can be up here. Move Emmerton as well and let Andersson play 4th line Center. Terrible planning by Holland, I'm not sure what he was thinking.

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03-20-2013, 08:51 AM
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This. There is nothing more these guys can learn down there, just nothing and you are starting to hear it in their voices when they do the interviews when they get back. Just listened to Gus' intermission interview during the Griffins game. Much like Tatar he says a lot of the right things, but you can tell he knows he shouldn't be at that level. Kaiser baits them with the questions too. But the tension is really building, they aren't getting chances and they are better than some of the guys that are and significantly better at this point and time and they know it.
Any video of this interview? Would be interesting to see

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03-20-2013, 09:04 AM
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I can´t understand why Tatar was sent down... He was awesome, and brings that wonderful blend of skill and tenacity/energy/hustle. He outperformed every single bottom 6 player, and outshone Nyquist by quite a bit in the process.
To be fair, Nyquist got almost no shot at the roster.

Game 1: New linemates, 1 assist
Game 2: New linemates, no points
Game 3: Sat
Game 4: Demoted

If Tatar was given the same "chance," I think we'd be saying the same things about him.

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I can´t understand why Tatar was sent down... He was awesome, and brings that wonderful blend of skill and tenacity/energy/hustle. He outperformed every single bottom 6 player, and outshone Nyquist by quite a bit in the process.
Tatar got sent down because he was ripe and Holland likes his prospects over-ripe.

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03-20-2013, 10:23 AM
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Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive 10 min
Babcock said Ericsson is playing tonight. Off this morning for personal reasons.

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Nyquist will arrive from Peoria, where he played last night. He'll be plugged into Eaves' spot on line with Andersson and Cleary.

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Nyquist recalled from Griffins.

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Waiting to hear from Babcock who they will recall from Grand Rapids.

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Eaves is out tonight. Day to day. Sprained joints in jaw bone is how they described it.

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Babs on Nyquist.

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“He’s got some skill, he’s obviously a real good player,'' Babcock said. “He’s led everywhere he’s ever played in scoring. The problem with the NHL is you have to come up and grab hold of something.

“We called Andy up for a game. He’s still playing, just because he grabbed hold of something. That’s what Gus has to do.''
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“So, if you’re Gus and you get in there tonight and you do great things, guess what happens?'' Babcock said. “I think Cal Ripken played shortstop for 22 straight years, or something like that, didn’t he?”
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Anderson, who has seven points (three goals, four assists) and a plus-6 rating in 19 games, has maintained hi spot for a variety of reasons.

“His hockey-sense,'' Babcock said. “He competes hard, he understands the game and he’s a big body. Knows how to play.

“You can put him on the ice, you’re not scared. He seems to get points. He’s just a hockey player.”

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03-20-2013, 12:03 PM
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Basically he's saying Andersson makes less mistakes and is more reliable.

Basically he's saying the same thing to kindl "if you avoid being on the ice on goals against, you'll stick in the lineup, because offensively you will produce and you have skills"

imo this is wrong, you need to gamble to win something. If nyquist isn't giving an opportunity like he has been given in College and after that the AHL, how will he succeed in the NHL...Rookies will be rookies and make mistakes, but it takes time to get comfortable and get confidence. Let him play his game and don't send him down if he makes a mistake.

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03-20-2013, 12:18 PM
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Basically he's saying Andersson makes less mistakes and is more reliable.

Basically he's saying the same thing to kindl "if you avoid being on the ice on goals against, you'll stick in the lineup, because offensively you will produce and you have skills"

imo this is wrong, you need to gamble to win something. If nyquist isn't giving an opportunity like he has been given in College and after that the AHL, how will he succeed in the NHL...Rookies will be rookies and make mistakes, but it takes time to get comfortable and get confidence. Let him play his game and don't send him down if he makes a mistake.
Defensive qualities is just as important as offensive.

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Defensive qualities is just as important as offensive.
He's been given half the opportunity that Andersson has.

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Defensive qualities is just as important as offensive.
He will learn defense on the fly during practices and just staying up in the NHL. He's done everything in the AHL, he shouldn't be there, he can't progress staying there anymore.

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03-20-2013, 12:41 PM
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Babs on Nyquist.
Babcock is an idiot at times there it needed to be said. Some of that quote is utterly laughable.

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He's been given half the opportunity that Andersson has.
Not even.

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OK Babcock, then why is Tatar down in GR when he outscored/produced more than most on the team while playing as much as Jordan Tootoo?

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OK Babcock, then why is Tatar down in GR when he outscored/produced more than most on the team while playing as much as Jordan Tootoo?
That is the Babs is scared to put him on the ice part of the quote.

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What a joke. Babs - what did Abdelkader "grab hold of" the first 12 or so games he played with our best player? Did Tatar not "grab hold" more than Eaves, Miller, Cleary or Abdelkader did while he was with the big club?

Babs really must think he is fooling everyone. Either that, or he doesn't truly believe what he saying.


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OK Babcock, then why is Tatar down in GR when he outscored/produced more than most on the team while playing as much as Jordan Tootoo?
He was only "real good" not "realgood."

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wtf is realgood/ real good anyways, shouldn't it be "really good" ?

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Strange that Coach Babcock is a size queen... considering his best players -- by far -- are Datsyuk and Zetterberg
It's not that weird. We have a bunch of people on this board who constantly overvalue the Height/Weight numbers of players instead of the size of their game. Those people would still readily admit that Datsyuk and Zetterberg are the best players on the team. They just haven't made the connection yet that you don't have to be 6'5 to play a 6'5 game.

Datsyuk was voted the hardest to take off the puck by the players' poll for a reason. Size isn't everything. It's that strength and heart.

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Defensive qualities is just as important as offensive.
Tell that to Brunner, arguably the teams worst defensive forward... and yet he plays in just as many key defensive situations as anyone.

Painfully obvious here that Babcock plays favorites. It is what it is I guess, but it's very unfortunate.

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He was only "real good" not "realgood."
Maybe if he plays "realgud" then he won't miss any more action.

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I personally thought this was the most interesting quote:
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“We sent him to Peoria to play the game last night, gave him a six-hour bus ride,'' coach Mike Babcock said. “Let him sleep for a bit and we’ll let him play tonight, see how mentally tough he is. That’s all part of the training to be a Red Wing.”
http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index...._nyquis_2.html

Right..

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I personally thought this was the most interesting quote:


http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index...._nyquis_2.html

Right..
What's funny is he believes that.

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