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03-20-2013, 02:27 PM
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Crosby is not on the level of Ott's antics. Not even close.
Chirping and antics are two different things to me.

There are plenty of captains that run their mouths. Crosby is one of them.

This team needs an identity. I would enjoy a team that was built around guys like Ott and Kaleta.

Yes, the team needs skill. But, I would prefer that they try and make the team more about compete level, physical play, and heart.

Who cares if Ott is a dirty player? He's OUR dirty player.

The bigger question is whether the other guys in the room see Ott as a leader and if he could be an effective leader.

I think he would be a better leader than Pominville.

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03-20-2013, 02:33 PM
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Brown and callahan are good captains, why not ott?

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03-20-2013, 02:35 PM
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He is my favourite player, guy brings it every night.

Captain, probably not. Should be assistant though.

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03-20-2013, 02:37 PM
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you love reminding me how you have no idea what's wrong with this team
Well, we can't all be as brilliant as you. Clearly trading Roy and firing Ruff have sent this team skyrocketing to the top of the standings. Can we hear more of your ideas, or is it time just to ridicule others because you've run out of your own?

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03-20-2013, 02:50 PM
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I, like many others on this board, have repeatedly said Steve Ott really should wear the "C" for the Sabres.

Granted, none of us are "in the room" as it were, so we're really just going by the fact that Ott:

--is very passionate
--puts his passion into results on the ice
--is very articulate in interviews about team play.
--seems to be the kinda guy to get in fellow players faces when they're not carrying their weight.

HOWEVER...

This morning, one of the guys on WGR made a comment about why Ott should NOT be captain...and it actually made some sense.

"He chirps at other players too much."

If you think about it, do you really want your captain being "that" guy? He really does do it constantly. Shouldn't the captain be a bit more...I don't know....dignified?
Vanek deserves the C to be honest, he plays hard and gives it all night after night, sure he doesn't speak to the press to much but his lead us on the ice for years. I'm not sure Ott deserves the C but definitely an A, maybe Leino or Foligno as well. Pominville is a little soft but a great 2 way player.

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03-20-2013, 02:52 PM
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Vanek deserves the C to be honest, he plays hard and gives it all night after night, sure he doesn't speak to the press to much but his lead us on the ice for years. I'm not sure Ott deserves the C but definitely an A, maybe Leino or Foligno as well. Pominville is a little soft but a great 2 way player.
Leino and Foligno are big "no's", at least right now. Leino hasn't shown one sign of leadership, and Foligno is far too young. I know Landeskog is the captain for Colorado, but that is a complete different situation over there. We have veterans, we have leaders - it's just not going as well as the players/fans want it to.

Down the road I can definitely see Foligno wearing a letter, just not right now.

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03-20-2013, 02:56 PM
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Leino and Foligno are big "no's", at least right now. Leino hasn't shown one sign of leadership, and Foligno is far too young. I know Landeskog is the captain for Colorado, but that is a complete different situation over there. We have veterans, we have leaders - it's just not going as well as the players/fans want it to.

Down the road I can definitely see Foligno wearing a letter, just not right now.
Personnally I see short term:

C: Vanek - as I've stated leader night after night on the score board and more often than not in +/- as well.
A: Sekera/Ehrhoff - quietly been our best defensemen
A: Ott - Reasons stated.

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03-20-2013, 02:59 PM
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Personnally I see short term:

C: Vanek - as I've stated leader night after night on the score board and more often than not in +/- as well.
A: Sekera/Ehrhoff - quietly been our best defensemen
A: Ott - Reasons stated.
Sure, sounds reasonable. Would be nice to hear more of what Tom is like in the dressing room.

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03-20-2013, 03:05 PM
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Forgot to add, Long term predictions:

C - Myers - I still believe he'll get it together.
A - Hodgson - Probably our number one center for a number of years, depending on Grig's development.
A - Girgensons - If his career path goes as predicted his got 'leader' written all over him.

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03-20-2013, 03:08 PM
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Forgot to add, Long term predictions:

C - Myers - I still believe he'll get it together.
A - Hodgson - Probably our number one center for a number of years, depending on Grig's development.
A - Girgensons - If his career path goes as predicted his got 'leader' written all over him.
I don't see any leadership in Myers, none at all.

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03-20-2013, 03:16 PM
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I have neither a consonant nor a vowel in this sweater letter debate.

However, I feel we should annoint Ott, (or "Otter"), "Captain Picker". He certainly is leading by example.

Nice avatar couture23.

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03-20-2013, 03:21 PM
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I don't see any leadership in Myers, none at all.
Ahem. 'Long Term'. I expect it to take him another couple of seasons to get it together. His had alot to process for a kid. Being expected to be a franchise defenceman instantly isn't something I envy.

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03-20-2013, 03:34 PM
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Personnally I see short term:

C: Vanek - as I've stated leader night after night on the score board and more often than not in +/- as well.
A: Sekera/Ehrhoff - quietly been our best defensemen
A: Ott - Reasons stated.
I'll get behind this. Long term I think Hodgson could be up for a letter.

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03-20-2013, 03:39 PM
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I don't really see how Vanek would be any different of a captain than Pominville is.

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03-20-2013, 04:11 PM
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Girgensons - C
McCabe - A
Drouin - A

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03-20-2013, 04:38 PM
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Sabres current players and prospects with leadership qualities, not picking a player just because he is good..

My current choices

A - Vanek
A - Pominville
A - Ott

Down the road we seem to have so good leadership in..

Girgensons (been compared to Brown, Toews, Callahan, and Backes)
Hodgson (has worn a letter at every level, consistent efford)
Pysyk (captained the Edmonton Oil Kings to Mem Cup birth)
McCabe (seems like a true leader, Captained USA to WRJ gold)
McNabb (captained Kootney to Mem Cup birth)
Foligno ( Natural Leader, still figuring out the league)

Any of Jones, MacKinnon, Lindholm, Monahan and Drouin have leadership aswell..

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03-20-2013, 04:51 PM
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Girgensons - C
McCabe - A
Drouin - A
7 years from now, maybe?
I think Hodgson is making a strong case to earn himself a letter in the future. I wouldn't mind seeing Ott with an A either.

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03-20-2013, 06:08 PM
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7 years from now, maybe?
I think Hodgson is making a strong case to earn himself a letter in the future. I wouldn't mind seeing Ott with an A either.

What case is Hodgson making?

Edit: Nevermind. Letter I'm fine with. Captain I'm not.

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03-20-2013, 06:21 PM
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Clearly trading Roy and firing Ruff have sent this team skyrocketing to the top of the standings.
Both were steps in the right direction. As the cliche goes, "short term pain for the long term gain."

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03-20-2013, 06:32 PM
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I have neither a consonant nor a vowel in this sweater letter debate.

However, I feel we should annoint Ott, (or "Otter"), "Captain Picker". He certainly is leading by example.

Nice avatar couture23.
Thanks man, as soon as I saw it I was all over it

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03-20-2013, 06:41 PM
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Pet peeve time! It's alternate captain...not assistant. /pedantic

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03-20-2013, 07:05 PM
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Am I the only one that finds the C and A's overrated

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03-20-2013, 07:42 PM
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Am I the only one that finds the C and A's overrated
It's not really the letter that is important, but it is important to have players that are leaders and are worthy of being a captain.

Check out all the cup winners and most have had great captains.

It's pretty rare that a team that has to name a personality like Pominville captain wins a cup..

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03-20-2013, 07:59 PM
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If Jake McCabe pans out he is the natural leader type, but that's wayy down the road.
Mark Pysyk might fit the bill, too(he was captain with the Oil Kings in his final season with Edmonton); however, like McCabe, it won't be for a few years.

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03-20-2013, 08:10 PM
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I'd rather see Ott with an A than Stafford
I feel this way too. Stafford just doesn't strike me as a guy we should have as an alternate anymore. Before the season started, I remember watching one of the scrimmage highlights and at the end Stafford started pushing Regehr around. I mean, do you really do that to a teammate who is quite a bit older than you when you're supposed to be one of the leaders setting an example? Just something that didn't rub me the right way. That's not even including on-ice performance as to why I don't like Stafford with a letter.

I think Ott should definitely have an "A" at this point. Captain material though, I don't think so. Ott's great at what he does and that's the player he is but most captains don't play with that kind of edge. I think he'd be a great alternate like he was in Dallas and he definitely has the leadership and bleeds blue and gold every night. Just not captain material. He's probably my favorite player on the team and I still agree the "C" probably isn't for him.

Honestly, I don't feel the Sabres really have any true captain candidates if they feel they want to make a change from Pominville (which won't happen unless he's gone). If that did happen though, I'd be all for giving it to Regehr if he stays similar to what the Devils did with Salvador. I don't think Pominville's a bad captain but I think Regehr is the most-qualified guy for the job that we have right now.

Still makes me mad that Stafford has an "A" over Ott or Regehr. I'd have to think if Stafford is traded soon, which could very well happen, Ott gets the letter.

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