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03-20-2013, 08:57 PM
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Kule's last 2 goals were snipes, lasers. Nothing wrong with his hands, he just needed a centre who could pass the puck.

He had 2 chances the last 2 games and they were in the net in a flash. You can't score if you are the dog getting the puck for a line mate that likes to play hog with the puck.

That's what has happened to him the past 2 seasons, until he was rescued tonight.

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03-20-2013, 08:59 PM
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1 goal, 5 hits, 2 blocked shots, 5 takeaways, +3.

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03-20-2013, 09:16 PM
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He was really good without the puck tonight, and that's what impressed me the most. He was hitting everything that moved, and really helped create some time and space for the other two. Given that Lupul and Kadri are pretty physical themselves, it makes for a gritty 2nd line. His snipe today was pretty awesome. Reminded me of the 25 goal Kulemin. If he keeps up this play, he'll get his chances with Kadri. The kid just knows how to dish the puck.

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03-20-2013, 09:17 PM
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Hopefully, they will. He is part of the solution, not part of the problem.

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03-20-2013, 09:18 PM
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Man when this guy actually tries and shoots the puck he is lethal. Hopefully he keeps this up! Would be a huge boost to this team.

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03-20-2013, 09:29 PM
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Kulemin is a top-six forward not a third liner. I never understand this notion that one has to score 30 goals or produce 70pts to be one. He is on pace for 41 pts despite being in an offensive slump. It's likely going to increase now that he's with Kadri.

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03-20-2013, 09:30 PM
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Kadri makes everyone around him better bro.

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03-20-2013, 09:34 PM
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Kulemin is a top-six forward not a third liner. I never understand this notion that one has to score 30 goals or produce 70pts to be one. He is on pace for 41 pts despite being in an offensive slump. It's likely going to increase now that he's with Kadri.
I am happy reading this, starting to see the light post. Kule was never the problem, the problem was his centre. When he gets chances he buries them. Ie. 2 goals 2 nights. No Grabo.

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03-20-2013, 09:37 PM
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He's still an ideal 3rd liner. If you can move him for a good 2nd liner, why not, if he can move him for a 1st liner, why not, but no don't just move him for the sake of moving him.

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03-20-2013, 09:38 PM
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Kadri had nothing to do with the goal he scored tonight. The pass wasn't noteworthy, Kulemin was partially covered. He just made a great stutter-step move and a hard accurate shot. If he'd been doing things like that with the puck all year nobody would have been complaining in the first place. His entire game up until the past few games has been to have the puck for as little time as possible, or so it seemed. He'd immediately dump it in if he was past the red line, if not it was an immediate pass to Grabovski, whether it made sense or not.

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So did he tip in the Phaneuf shot?

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03-20-2013, 09:41 PM
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He tipped that Dion goal - hopefully he eventually gets credit for it.

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03-20-2013, 09:43 PM
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Kadri had nothing to do with the goal he scored tonight. The pass wasn't noteworthy, Kulemin was partially covered. He just made a great stutter-step move and a hard accurate shot. If he'd been doing things like that with the puck all year nobody would have been complaining in the first place. His entire game up until the past few games has been to have the puck for as little time as possible, or so it seemed. He'd immediately dump it in if he was past the red line, if not it was an immediate pass to Grabovski, whether it made sense or not.
Was wondering when you would come out and defend Grabo, this one is new and creative.

What happened to Grabo on a shutdown free night. 0 points -2

Kadri with the shutdown role, 3 points, and +3 head to head against Stamkos.

This is what 5.5M Centers should do, not 22 year olds.

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Kadri makes everyone around him better bro.
It can be mutually beneficial for both. Kadri gets Kulemin the puck, and Kulemin will do the grunt work like shot blocking, board battles and screens.

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03-20-2013, 09:47 PM
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As long as he keeps SHOOTING!

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He tipped that Dion goal - hopefully he eventually gets credit for it.
But Kadri would lose a point.

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Good to see him and Grabo apart for a change, still have hope for Grabo to find his game but needs to not be relied on as a shutdown player.

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Good to see him and Grabo apart for a change, still have hope for Grabo to find his game but needs to not be relied on as a shutdown player.
The only shutting down Grabo has been doing this year is on his wingers. Kule, Mac, Komarov, Frattin.

No shutdown role tonight, still a poor performance. -2 and still stuck on 1 point at the ACC this season.

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I think he will thrive on this line with Lupul and Kadri. He's playing with far and away the teams best center and second best (arguable) winger.
Yeah i agree Kulemins a guy who needs to be set up.. His shot is way more of a threat when Kadris feeding him. Lupul is playing outstanding though, really moving his feet being aggresive and his puck protection in the boards has been phenomenal.

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I'm more concerned with Grabo than Kule. We have him locked for what 5 more years ? and he's not producing at all. He was awful tonight despite the win.

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03-20-2013, 11:13 PM
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i was never against him.

saw him play live once and he is great d-wise in position.

grabo was/is the problem.

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03-20-2013, 11:20 PM
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I am happy reading this, starting to see the light post. Kule was never the problem, the problem was his centre. When he gets chances he buries them. Ie. 2 goals 2 nights. No Grabo.
Grabovski doesn't have the vision of Kadri. That's why Kulemin, who knows how to pot goals, is benefiting. On the other hand, Grabovski who can play an aggressive high tempo game and likes to shoot. You need to put him on the same line as Kessel and allow both to shine.

Randy was always known to be quite stubborn. Nonis, in fact, didn't want to sign the guy. He is a highly experienced coach, but we can do better. We need a line up where ALL lines are functioning. JVR and Kessel are NOT producing at the same manner as Kadri, Kulemin and Lupul.

I understand that Bozak is solid, but he is not creating space and attacking in the opposition zone. You can't have two peripheral players. It's as if all centremen have to be more "withdrawn" Gretzsky-esque playmakers. That's not how Eric Staal plays his game. Watch his tribute videos where his top plays are those of a playmaker. Sundin isn't that different either and he would've flourished with someone like Kessel on his wing.


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03-20-2013, 11:27 PM
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Grabovski doesn't have the vision of Kadri. That's why someone like Kulemin, who knows how to pot goals, is benefiting. On the other hand, Grabovski who can play an aggressive high tempo game and likes to shoot. You need to put him on the same line as Kessel.
Makes absolutely no sense, you want JVR the goal leader on the team doing the dog's work that Kule did by digging the puck out, have Kessel who is a better scorer than Grabo play playmaker for Grabo?

We know Grabo is incapable of passing the puck, so we have 2 of our most gifted offensive players do the pick and axe men work so Grabo can score a few goals? Man, this is beyond a bad idea.

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03-20-2013, 11:42 PM
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Kulemin looked like the 30 goal Kulemin today, he looked like a totally different player with Kadri, Lupul. I actually thought Kadri shouldn't have made the pass on the play, obviously this is why I'm not in the NHL and Kadri is. I can all but guarantee that there is no way in hell Grabovski makes the pass. Kulemin never gets to touch the puck with Grabovski, he's a guy that can't make goals happen on his own, but if you give him the puck in a scoring position, he is a guy that can burry it. Glad that Caryle made the change.

I've been saying this for 2 years now, Grabovski isn't a C, he skates with his head down, and doesn't like to use his linemates.

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Makes absolutely no sense, you want JVR the goal leader on the team doing the dog's work that Kule did by digging the puck out, have Kessel who is a better scorer than Grabo play playmaker for Grabo?

We know Grabo is incapable of passing the puck, so we have 2 of our most gifted offensive players do the pick and axe men work so Grabo can score a few goals? Man, this is beyond a bad idea.
Grabovski is terrible. He should be compliance target #1

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