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03-21-2013, 09:18 AM
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Vanek not on the ice in the morning skate. Per multiple Buffalo media twitter accounts

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It will be interesting to see if miller doesn't start, how he "handles" it. Wonder if TBN will interview kaleta and change some of millers quotes?

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I may be in the minority here, but Toronto is up at the top of the league in fighting majors. I sure would love to see Scott in the line up tonight.
He should dress for every division game, especially after watching Ottawa have their way physically with this team.

What's up with these pansy players taking time off because they have an upper body bruise? That's what Vanek has. He needs to play and these guys need to step up and show some leadership through playing with injury.

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03-21-2013, 09:37 AM
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Miller is starting. Y'know, cause he's the starting goaltender.

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I may be in the minority here, but Toronto is up at the top of the league in fighting majors. I sure would love to see Scott in the line up tonight.
He should dress for every division game, especially after watching Ottawa have their way physically with this team.

What's up with these pansy players taking time off because they have an upper body bruise? That's what Vanek has. He needs to play and these guys need to step up and show some leadership through playing with injury.
We don't know what the actual injury is. Besides, are you seriously suggesting Vanek of all people is a "pansy?"

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I may be in the minority here, but Toronto is up at the top of the league in fighting majors. I sure would love to see Scott in the line up tonight.
He should dress for every division game, especially after watching Ottawa have their way physically with this team.

What's up with these pansy players taking time off because they have an upper body bruise? That's what Vanek has. He needs to play and these guys need to step up and show some leadership through playing with injury.
Vanek is one player you should NEVER, EVER criticize for not playing through an injury.

That man gets abused like no one else night in and night out.

Absolute ignorance what you just said. You should be ashamed.

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I'm going but I'll be late to the rink due to overlapping commitments. Leaves in a breeze?
I wish you would leaf such puns for the comedians. I'm going to have to report this to a global moderator now.

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I may be in the minority here, but Toronto is up at the top of the league in fighting majors. I sure would love to see Scott in the line up tonight.
He should dress for every division game, especially after watching Ottawa have their way physically with this team.

What's up with these pansy players taking time off because they have an upper body bruise? That's what Vanek has. He needs to play and these guys need to step up and show some leadership through playing with injury.
Vanek has played through a TON of injuries in his career. He's not as effective when he does, and he takes more physical abuse than any other player on this team night in and out, just from going to the net and staying there. I would MUCH rather he sit out, heal up, and come back healthy than play through the injury, be ineffective, get more injured, and even less effective.

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John Vogl ‏@BuffNewsVogl 4m

Nathan Gerbe doing the extra skating after practice, expected to be scratched again for Sabres. John Scott is in.

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03-21-2013, 10:08 AM
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Scott with hodge n pommers? Do it do it do it

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Miller is starting. Y'know, cause he's the starting goaltender.
Ronron has no balls...

I'll take the over on 4 goals allowed

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Vanek misses more practice and games with bruises or soreness then any player in the NHL. Yeah, we say he plays injured, so do a lot of players. Get out there.

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Vanek misses more practice and games with bruises or soreness then any player in the NHL. Yeah, we say he plays injured, so do a lot of players. Just bruises. Get out there.
He plays through Injuries every year

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Ronron has no balls...

I'll take the over on 4 goals allowed
Gotta let him get one more high quality start to up that trade value

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He plays through Injuries every year
Well, we like to say this because it helps explain his consistency issues, but who knows? Everyone plays with bumps and bruises, few get the pass that he does because of them.

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He plays through Injuries every year
Soreness, not injuries.

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Soreness, not injuries.
I... you see...

You really think a guy that gets cross-checked and abused every night only misses games because of "soreness"? Really?

FWIW, he's played at LEAST 70 games every year in his career (this year obviously will be an exception).

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I... you see...

You really think a guy that gets cross-checked and abused every night only misses games because of "soreness"? Really?

FWIW, he's played at LEAST 70 games every year in his career (this year obviously will be an exception).
Has he ever had surgery on anything other than his jaw? Any broken bones?

Maybe Im just wrong, I dont remember anything.

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Has he ever had surgery on anything other than his jaw? Any broken bones?

Maybe Im just wrong, I dont remember anything.
That's your metric for what to call "soreness" and what to call "injury"?

Wow. Pretty much most of the players that go on IR but not LTIR are "sore", not injured.


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That's your metric for what to call "soreness" and what to call "injury"?

Wow. Pretty much most of the players that go on IR but not LTIR are "sore", not injured.
Well you assume he has injuries I assume he has soreness. I guess we will never know will we?

A player that is known to play with injuries you would think there would be something that proves that.

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Sabres LW Vanek misses game against Pittsburgh with abdominal soreness

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=510560

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Well you assume he has injuries I assume he has soreness. I guess we will never know will we?

A player that is known to play with injuries you would think there would be something that proves that.
You have no idea how injuries can work, do you?
Example: http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/sp...driceps-strain (grade 2) -- Not a serious injury, but very painful to play on and you risk injuring it further and doing real damage if you do not give it some rest. But I guess that's just a "soreness" and not an injury.

You're making bad assumptions. I presume he has injuries because it's forcing him to miss games. That's what happens in sports.

You're assuming he only has "soreness" because.... well I have no idea.

But since you're being kind of ridiculous, here:
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...r-for-buffalo/
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?p...7#.UUssSlHI86I
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...t-the-reality/
And finally: http://thomasvanek.at/index.php?id=31&L=1&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=172&tx_ttnews[backPid]=2&cHash=8790f73278c5da78aaec88cacb157704 (Go to April 2012)

He's played through at least a rib injury, a shoulder injury and an ankle sprain that we know of.

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Vanek dont play.
i think other players play in spite of injury.is a short season,
Vanek win the "Lady Bing trophy" that year..
(joke).

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You have no idea how injuries can work, do you?
Example: http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/sp...driceps-strain (grade 2) -- Not a serious injury, but very painful to play on and you risk injuring it further and doing real damage if you do not give it some rest. But I guess that's just a "soreness" and not an injury.

You're making bad assumptions. I presume he has injuries because it's forcing him to miss games. That's what happens in sports.

You're assuming he only has "soreness" because.... well I have no idea.

But since you're being kind of ridiculous, here:
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...r-for-buffalo/
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?p...7#.UUssSlHI86I

He's played through at least a rib injury and a shoulder injury.
This is what I call playing with injury.

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BUFFALO, N.Y. -- Buffalo Sabres captain Craig Rivet likely will have surgery to repair a nagging left shoulder injury that may force him to miss the start of next season.

General manager Darcy Regier said Thursday the defenseman will get a second medical opinion early next week before deciding whether to have the operation.

Regier added that the operation "is likely," and would lead to Rivet missing between four and six months.

Rivet first mentioned the likelihood of an operation a day earlier, after cleaning out his locker. The Sabres were eliminated from the playoffs by Boston in their first-round series this week.

Rivet wore a brace while playing with the injury throughout this season.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=5149142

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This is what I call playing with injury.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=5149142
What the **** is wrong with you?

Vanek played with an ankle sprain and bad shoulder and that's not good enough for you?

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lol @ debate over soreness and injury. Unreal.

Injury does not always require a surgery or time missed.

Soreness does not mean a player is not injured...soreness is the result of an injury.

More times than not teams do not disclose the specifics of an injury and just generlize it by saying soreness..or UBI or LBI ...

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