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03-21-2013, 01:02 PM
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Rank the 1st overall forwards of the last 15 years in "skill"

I'm not talking effort, or speed, or numbers. Just pure "skill". Sniping, passing, stick-handling/dangling, puck-handling, finesse, etc.

1997 - Thornton
1998 - Lecavalier
1999 - Stefan
2001 - Kovalchuk
2002 - Nash
2004 - Ovechkin
2005 - Crosby
2007 - Kane
2008 - Stamkos
2009 - Tavares
2010 - Hall
2011 - RNH
2012 - Yakupov

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Hall is last, right?

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Curious to see the results, I think it's inevitable that Stefan finishes last, nothing he showed in junior actually showed up in the NHL

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Weird/vague criteria, but I'm going to assume "skill" includes the hockey brain, and excludes speed & strength:

2005 - Crosby
1997 - Thornton
2009 - Tavares
2008 - Stamkos
2007 - Kane
2001 - Kovalchuk
2004 - Ovechkin
1998 - Lecavalier
2011 - RNH
2010 - Hall
2002 - Nash
2012 - Yakupov
1999 - Stefan

*caveat: It's way too early on RNH and Yakupov, in my opinion, but I gave it a shot.

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1.Stefan















Everyone else











Hall

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Crosby
Kane
Ovechkin
Thornton
Stamkos
Tavares
RNH
Kovalchuk
Lecavalier
Nash
Yakupov
Hall
Stefan

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Skill at their draft? or what they projected to be? or what they became?

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Crosby
Kane
Ovechkin
Thornton
Stamkos
Tavares
RNH
Kovalchuk
Lecavalier
Nash
Yakupov
Hall
Stefan
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Some of these lists are ridiculous. Stefan is at least top 3!

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If Drouin goes first overall I'd vouch for him being top 5.

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the rest in some order (who cares)


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I'm not talking effort, or speed, or numbers. Just pure "skill". Sniping, passing, stick-handling/dangling, puck-handling, finesse, etc.

1997 - Thornton
1998 - Lecavalier
1999 - Stefan
2001 - Kovalchuk
2002 - Nash
2004 - Ovechkin
2005 - Crosby
2007 - Kane
2008 - Stamkos
2009 - Tavares
2010 - Hall
2011 - RNH
2012 - Yakupov
if we put Thorton and Vinny in thier prime....


1-Crosby
2-Ovie
3Thorton
4-Stamkos
5-Vinny
6-Tavares
7-Kovy
8-Kane
9-Nash
10-Hall
11-RNH
12-Yak
13-Stefan



Hard to compare the most recents with guys who have a body of work...

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Based soley on "skill", I'd say:

Crosby
Kane
Tavares
Kovalchuk
Stamkos
Ovechkin
RNH
Nash
Yakupov
Lecavalier
Hall
Thornton


Stefan

I believe Thornton is better than most of the players ahead of him and I think, at the very least, Stamkos is better than Kane, but in terms of "skill" and now overall hockey ability/impact, that's my list.

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Based soley on "skill", I'd say:

Crosby
Kane
Tavares
Kovalchuk
Stamkos
Ovechkin
RNH
Nash
Yakupov
Lecavalier
Hall
Thornton


Stefan

I believe Thornton is better than most of the players ahead of him and I think, at the very least, Stamkos is better than Kane, but in terms of "skill" and now overall hockey ability/impact, that's my list.
Why do you have him nearly last, then?

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Crosby and Ovechkin should be the top 2 guys.

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Weird/vague criteria, but I'm going to assume "skill" includes the hockey brain, and excludes speed & strength:

2005 - Crosby
1997 - Thornton
2009 - Tavares
2008 - Stamkos
2007 - Kane
2001 - Kovalchuk
2004 - Ovechkin
1998 - Lecavalier
2011 - RNH
2010 - Hall
2002 - Nash
2012 - Yakupov
1999 - Stefan

*caveat: It's way too early on RNH and Yakupov, in my opinion, but I gave it a shot.
Skill is not brain, it's basically the combination of skating, shooting, passing.

In that department Crosby (of course), Kovalchuk, Ovechkin and Nash should make the top of the list.

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Why do you have him nearly last, then?
Because if skill was the only factor into being a good player, then Omark and Schremp would be NHL stars.

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I'm not talking effort, or speed, or numbers. Just pure "skill". Sniping, passing, stick-handling/dangling, puck-handling, finesse, etc.

1997 - Thornton
1998 - Lecavalier
1999 - Stefan
2001 - Kovalchuk
2002 - Nash
2004 - Ovechkin
2005 - Crosby
2007 - Kane
2008 - Stamkos
2009 - Tavares
2010 - Hall
2011 - RNH
2012 - Yakupov
1. Crosby
2. Ovechkin
3. Kane
4. Kovalchuk
5. Stamkos
6. Tavares
7. Thornton
8. Nash
9. Hall
10. Yakupov
11. Lecavalier
12. RNH
13. Stefan

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I'm not talking effort, or speed, or numbers. Just pure "skill". Sniping, passing, stick-handling/dangling, puck-handling, finesse, etc.

1997 - Thornton
1998 - Lecavalier
1999 - Stefan
2001 - Kovalchuk
2002 - Nash
2004 - Ovechkin
2005 - Crosby
2007 - Kane
2008 - Stamkos
2009 - Tavares
2010 - Hall
2011 - RNH
2012 - Yakupov
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Haven't even read the first post yet, and I already know who is dead last:

Poor, poor Stefan.

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He listed the players in order chronologically.

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2005 - Crosby
2004 - Ovechkin
1997 - Thornton
2001 - Kovalchuk
2008 - Stamkos
2009 - Tavares
2007 - Kane
2002 - Nash
1998 - Lecavalier
1999 - Stefan

I left out Hall, RNH, and Yakupov because I just feel it is too early to tell.

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I left out Hall, RNH, and Yakupov because I just feel it is too early to tell.


It's way too early to come to conclusions on things like this for those guys. If we had done this for Stamkos or Tavares early on they'd have been near the bottom of the list.

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Crosby
Ovechkin
Malkin
Stamkos
Kovalchuk
Thorton
Lecavalier
Kane
Tavares
Nash
Hall
Yakupov
RNH
Stefan

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