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03-09-2013, 04:35 PM
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Very easy win for Johnny V., had him in cruise control.

Surprised this is just the second Tampa Bay Derby win for Pletcher.

Otherwise, #4 was a bit of a surprise finishing second but the field was less than impressive.


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Very easy win for Johnny V., had him in cruise control.

Surprised this is just the second Tampa Bay Derby win for Pletcher.

Otherwise, #4 was a bit of a surprise finishing second but the field was less than impressive.
Looked like he had some trouble putting the field away, but he was going well at the finish. Should stretch out.

The San Felipe had an exciting finish.
Winner Hear The Ghost finished well catching the tiring Flashback.

Favored Flashback (Baffert) gave the field 3 to 5 lbs and held 2nd.
Rider Leparoux took the wrath of Baffert post race comments.

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More about Verrazano's win...

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Trainer Todd Pletcher was keeping his options open on the next start for Verrazano, who became the early favorite for the 2013 Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands (gr. I) with his March 9 win in the Tampa Bay Derby (gr. II).

The day after Verrazano's dominating three-length victory at Tampa Bay Downs, Pletcher said the More Than Ready colt could next run in the Besilu Stables Florida Derby (gr. I) March 30 at Gulfstream Park, the Wood Memorial (gr. I) April 6 at Aqueduct Racetrack, or the Arkansas Derby (gr. I) April 13 at Oaklawn Park.
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Flashback tired, got caught in a one-on-one battle and paid the price.

Gulfstream was a freak show. I wonder if the added weight discussed a couple of days ago was an issue with Fort Larned...

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Fort Larned stumbled at the start, dropped jockey Brian Hernandez Jr. over his right shoulder, and was declared a non-finisher (VIDEO).

Fort Larned, the 4-5 favorite, grabbed a left front quarter in the incident but appeared otherwise uninjured. He recovered from the spill to race up the rail and easily outdistanced the other five older horses, crossing the finish line of the one-mile event in front by a pole.
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The Breeders’ Cup is interested in returning to Belmont Park next year for the first time since 2005, and the New York Racing Association is amenable to the idea, but only if the contentious issue of Lasix can be resolved.
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Trainer Rick Violette, president of the N.Y. Thoroughbred Horsemen’s Association, a non-voting member of the NYRA board and a vociferous proponent of the use of Lasix to treat and prevent exercise-induced pulmonary hemorrhaging, said, “For one race, one day, one event, horsemen have a hard time exposing our best horses to an internal injury.”

Other factors that stand in the way of Belmont hosting the Breeders’ Cup, said another board member, are that it can’t be held on the same weekend as the New York City Marathon because “98 percent of the hotel rooms are taken,” and that “the TV window has been pushed later in the day because of college football” - presenting a darkness dilemma not encountered by Churchill Downs (which has lights) and Santa Anita (which is three times zones later), the two tracks that hosted the past six Breeders’ Cups and are in the running for 2014.

“I don’t think either one of those is deal breakers,” Flay responded.
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The $600,000, GII Rebel Stakes, going 1 1/16 mile over the Oaklawn Park main this Saturday looks like a full boat of 3yo’s derby want-to-be’s is coming out for this middle leg of the 2013 Oaklawn Derby Trail season.
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Super Ninety Nine draws the 11 post in a field of 11. Also gives weight to most of these.
This assures a good pace, as there is speed inside of him.

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Baffert's won the last three Rebel races. Oxbow and SuperNinetyNine both on the outside offer an interesting analysis right off the bat. Mike Smith, now riding Oxbow, and Bejerano could get into a battle right out of the gate. Did Texas Bling and Will Take Charge get hurt because of the slop last time out? Can Gomez help Delhomme?

Until the odds are released: The two outsiders and Will Take Charge are my picks.

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Baffert's won the last three Rebel races. Oxbow and SuperNinetyNine both on the outside offer an interesting analysis right off the bat. Mike Smith, now riding Oxbow, and Bejerano could get into a battle right out of the gate. Did Texas Bling and Will Take Charge get hurt because of the slop last time out? Can Gomez help Delhomme?

Until the odds are released: The two outsiders and Will Take Charge are my picks.
The Southwest is a complete throw out.

I don't know if I want a speed type in this race. Delhomme will have to rate to have a shot. No really sharp works, so they're probably working on it.

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The Southwest is a complete throw out.

I don't know if I want a speed type in this race. Delhomme will have to rate to have a shot. No really sharp works, so they're probably working on it.
Looking more closely.

I don't think these riders will let Bejarano (Super Ninety Nine) have the lead.
Especially Mike Smith on Oxbow.

I think the inside, close up horses, like Delhomme (I've changed my thinking), and Treasury Bill, are solid contenders, and have a good chance to take this.

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Favored Flashback (Baffert) gave the field 3 to 5 lbs and held 2nd.
Rider Leparoux took the wrath of Baffert post race comments.
Gomez now has the mount.

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Baffert's won the last three Rebel races. Oxbow and SuperNinetyNine both on the outside offer an interesting analysis right off the bat. Mike Smith, now riding Oxbow, and Bejerano could get into a battle right out of the gate. Did Texas Bling and Will Take Charge get hurt because of the slop last time out? Can Gomez help Delhomme?

Until the odds are released: The two outsiders and Will Take Charge are my picks.
Fantastic. $275 exacta. Well done.

Sucks for Baffert and Super Ninety Nine but I think he'll get over it.


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Fantastic. $275 exacta. Well done.

Sucks for Baffert and Super Ninety Nine but I think he'll get over it.
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Why does it suck? He didn't have the best horse.
The rabbit (Title Contender) did his job. You could see Super Ninety Nine climbing on the backstretch. He did not like the dirt in his face at all.
This suggests Super Ninety Nine is nothing but a one dimensional speed horse.

Lesson to be learned. Never be impressed by a double digit wire job in the slop.

I guess I discounted Will Take Charge because of the rider. I didn't think he was capable. I was wrong.

Oxbow was unfortunately used chasing Super Ninety Nine. Another good effort. He also gave weight.

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^ Sucks in the sense that he was going for four in a row in this race.

Gomez had a tough day.

Now, finally, comes my choice from last year: Can Uncaptured regain his form or will the foot injury be a nuisance?

http://www.drf.com/news/turfway-park...ky-derby-hopes

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Meanwhile, Uncaptured breezed a mile Tuesday over the SafeTrack synthetic surface at the Ocala training center in Florida in preparing for his 3-year-old debut in the Spiral. Uncaptured won 6 of 7 starts last year, ending with a victory in the KJC.

“He went in 1:40 and got his last quarter in 24 and a tick,” said trainer Mark Casse. “He’ll ship straight into Turfway a few days out.”

As of Wednesday, and in order of preference, Turfway stakes coordinator Tia Murphy had these 17 3-year-olds listed as likely for the Spiral: Uncaptured, Balance the Books, Mac the Man, General Election, Capo Bastone, Fear the Kitten, Channel Isle, My Name is Michael, Black Onyx, Frac Daddy, Giant Finish, Nina’s Dragon, For Greater Glory, Cerro, Red Wings, Divine Ambition, and Crop Report.

The race will be limited to 12 starters, with two more on an also-eligible list.

A new sponsorship with Horseshoe Cincinnati Casino was announced last month. The race has been known by a variety of names since its 1972 inaugural, most recently the Vinery Racing Spiral.


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^ Sucks in the sense that he was going for four in a row in this race.

Gomez had a tough day.

Now, finally, comes my choice from last year: Can Uncaptured regain his form or will the foot injury be a nuisance?

http://www.drf.com/news/turfway-park...ky-derby-hopes
Still believe these synthetic track races are useless for Derby purposes. Other than to get the 50 points.

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I also think trainers and owners just don't like Belmont Park because it's so large. For graded races, they have trouble getting 8 horses to show up.

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Spiral Stakes

The Spiral is very competitive.

Balance The Books is bred up and down for the dirt. Should appreciate the distance.
My Name Is Michael will be better prepared for Mott, and wants more distance.
For Greater Glory improved with blinkers removed. Should be right there.
General Election got a big number over the track with blinkers removed.
Uncaptured will be forced to the front. Question at the added distance.
Giant Finish has tactical speed and likes the track. Changes rider.
Black Onyx won 1st time for new trainer.
Fear The Kitten may get a piece.
Mac The Man will want the lead.
Taken by the Storm may want shorter.
Channel Isle hasn't run a good number.

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I also think trainers and owners just don't like Belmont Park because it's so large. For graded races, they have trouble getting 8 horses to show up.
There was criticism when it was held in 1990. Two or three horses died that Breeders Cup day but that was light years ago, too. My guess is the weather and other factors can work against Belmont, too: Time of day, comfort with Cali.

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Still believe these synthetic track races are useless for Derby purposes. Other than to get the 50 points.

PP's for the Spiral.
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This was Casse's reasoning for putting Uncaptured in this race:

http://nky.cincinnati.com/article/AB...ext|NEWS010801

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The ability to overcome adversity demonstrated an important characteristic for a colt pointed toward the Run for the Roses, but Uncaptured did not escape the race unscathed.

“He came out of that with a bruised left foot and developed an abscess in his right foot a few days later,” Casse said. “He’s been at our main training center in Ocala (Fla.), working over a synthetic surface that is similar to Turway. He’s lost some training time and it would be difficult to go and run on conventional dirt, so the best choice for his return was Turfway.”

Jockey Patrick Husband rode Uncaptured in his Canadian starts, but Miguel Mena was aboard in the horse’s two wins at Churchill Downs and gets the mount Saturday.
Sounds like he is being cautious.

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I'm on Fear the Kitten, hoping he's sharper without the mud, and the Southwest produced Will Take Charge behind him

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Black Onyx wins at 15/1. Not Triple Crown nominated. Be interesting to see the number.

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The cautioned approach taken by Casse was apparent heading into this race. Uncaptured performed well. Not a win but the connections should be satisfied if not happy considering the layoff.

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2nd jockey: Miguel Mena, Uncaptured: “My horse was trying really hard. He was just getting a little tired. He really needed the race. He was getting tired from the eighth pole. He’s such a good horse and has such a deep heart. He just keeps on trying. He just never gives up. He broke really well for me today and we had a great trip. No problems at all. We were trying to save some horse, and I thought I was going to have it.”
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2nd trainer: Mark Casse, Uncaptured:“I was extremely happy. It’s been a really long road getting there. For him to run farther than he ever has in his first start in four months, he performed very well. Yes, (the Kentucky Derby is still in mind). If all goes well, we’ll go from here to the Blue Grass Stakes, and then into the Derby. You never know (about getting the distance). But we do know one thing: he’s two-for-two at Churchill Downs. And judging by the way he ran and by the way he rated, I don’t see how distance would be an issue.”


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Field Tops Verrazano as Derby Future Choice
03/24/2013 9:34 PM ET


Verrazano was the favored individual horse in the final of three Kentucky Derby Future Wager pools for 2013, but the field entry emerged as the overall pick once again for this year's Run for the Roses.

The field pick, or the "All Others" option, closed at 5-1 to take favoritism over Verrazano, who was 7-1. The field was favored in all three pools this year. It was the heavy 8-5 choice in the Pool 1 and 3-1 in Pool 2.

Tampa Bay Derby (gr. II) winner Verrazano, unbeaten in three starts for trainer Todd Pletcher, was the top individual horse in all three pools as well. The son of More Than Ready began the day as a slight favorite at 5-1, but edged up slightly by the close of wagering Sunday, March 24, at 6 p.m. EDT.

Wagering in Pool 3 totaled $402,167. Of that total, $266,073 had been wagered to win along with $136,094 in exacta bets.

Unbeaten Vyjack, winner of the Jerome (gr. II) and Gotham (gr. III) Stakes this season, and Holy Bull (gr. III) winner Itsmyluckyday both closed at 10-1, while Withers (gr. III) victor Revolutionary followed at 12-1.

Orb, winner of the Besilu Stables' Fountain of Youth, settled at 13-1, with Robert B. Lewis (gr. II) winner Flashback at 15-1 along with Hear the Ghost, who defeated Flashback in the San Felipe Stakes (gr. II) March 9.

KENTUCKY DERBY FUTURE WAGER 2013 Pool 3
MARCH 22-24, FINAL ODDS & WILLPAYS
# Wagering Interest Morning Line Day 1 Day 2 FINAL WILL PAY

1 Code West 30-1 38-1 32-1 29-1 $61.80
2 Den’s Legacy 50-1 42-1 41-1 43-1 $89.60
3 Falling Sky 50-1 99-1 81-1 95-1 $192.40
4 Flashback 12-1 19-1 18-1 15-1 $33.40
5 Goldencents 30-1 39-1 41-1 49-1 $101.80

6 Hear the Ghost (n) 20-1 12-1 15-1 15-1 $33.00
7 Itsmyluckyday 10-1 10-1 10-1 10-1 $23.80
8 Java’s War (n) 30-1 25-1 29-1 31-1 $65.40
9 Mr Palmer (n) 50-1 49-1 50-1 54-1 $111.40
10 Noble Tune (n) 30-1 49-1 48-1 50-1 $102.40

11 Normandy Invasion 20-1 19-1 19-1 18-1 $39.20
12 Orb 10-1 17-1 12-1 13-1 $29.60
13 Overanalyze 30-1 45-1 47-1 49-1 $101.60
14 Oxbow 20-1 22-1 18-1 21-1 $44.60
15 Palace Malice 50-1 52-1 40-1 42-1 $87.00

16 Revolutionary 15-1 13-1 11-1 12-1 $27.80
17 Shakin It Up 30-1 60-1 49-1 36-1 $74.80
18 Shanghai Bobby 15-1 14-1 14-1 18-1 $38.80
19 Uncaptured 20-1 39-1 33-1 31-1 $64.40
20 Verrazano 7-2 5-1 6-1 7-1 $17.00

21 Vyjack (g) 10-1 12-1 12-1 10-1 $23.20
22 War Academy (n) 30-1 20-1 16-1 18-1 $39.80
23 Will Take Charge (n) 20-1 19-1 19-1 19-1 $41.80
24 All Other 3YOs 6-1 5-1 8-1 5-1 $13.40

Total Wagering : $402,167 … Win: $266,073 … Exacta: $136,094
(g) – gelding (n) – new wagering interest in Pool 3
Morning Line odds by Mike Battaglia


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Three of the top horses face off in the Florida Derby....

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$1 Million Besilu Stables Florida Derby (gr. I, Race 12, 6:19 p.m.), 3YOs, 1 1/8 Miles
PP. Horse, Jockey, Trainer, ML Odds
1. Shanghai Bobby (KY), R Napravnik, T A Pletcher, 5/2
2. Pick of the Litter (KY), J L Castanon, D L Romans, 6/1
3. Itsmyluckyday (KY), E Trujillo, E Plesa Jr., 2/1
4. Pontiff (KY), A Garcia, D L Romans, 30/1
5. Frac Daddy (KY), C J Lanerie, K G McPeek, 20/1
6. Orb (KY), J R Velazquez, C R McGaughey III, 3/1
7. Indy's Illusion (KY), R Maragh, B Tagg, 20/1
8. Merit Man (FL), K J Desormeaux, R B Hess Jr., 15/1
9. Are You Kidding Me (KY), J Lezcano, R L Attfield, 15/1
10. Narvaez (KY), P Lopez, A C Bezara, 20/1
All carry 122 pounds.
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I think the race sets up perfectly for Orb.
Johnny needs to somehow save some ground.

Itsmyluckyday will not let Shanghai Bobby (who unfortunately draws #1 again) get away. Once he gets the lead, he may have trouble handling to top pick at the added distance.

Longshot Pick Of The Litter is totally without seasoning. He's tearing down the barn in the AM with brilliant works.

Frac Daddy is working super, changes rider.

Narvaez woke up with Lasix, has talent.

Indy's Illusion will like the added distance.

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^ The last two weekends I felt comfortable with longshots (Will Take Charge and Black Onyx) factoring but I don't see one here. Orb and ItsMyLuckyDay have the advantage as far as I can see.

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