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03-17-2013, 01:12 AM
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He shouldn't be but he is so if you pair him with a defensive guy you can best utilize his talents. Is that better ?
I understand what you're saying, but I don't agree.

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The off-season is gonna be exciting. Besides Conacher and Killorn, who were expected to make it to the NHL, stay there and have a positive impact on the team sooner or later, a couple of guys have proven that they at least deserve a long and hard look.

None of Johnson, Palat, Gudas and of course Tyrell look out of place right now. And after a full season in the AHL and hopefully a deep playoff run Connolly will be pushing hard, as will Barberio. And then there are Brown and Panik...

A lot of options for Yzerman. And a lot of decisions to make.

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03-20-2013, 10:56 AM
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Yzerman has to be very careful with any signings he does this offseason, for top four defensemen or whoever else. Next offseason will require contract renewals for all the crunch players who are playing in the NHL as well as Pyatt and Lindback. And Lee (who I don't see getting a renewal if Gudas, Barbeiro, and Korobov come up).

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03-20-2013, 11:27 AM
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Yzerman has to be very careful with any signings he does this offseason, for top four defensemen or whoever else. Next offseason will require contract renewals for all the crunch players who are playing in the NHL as well as Pyatt and Lindback. And Lee (who I don't see getting a renewal if Gudas, Barbeiro, and Korobov come up).
After next season Salo will be most off the books, Ohlund hopefully will be retired so thats 8 mil there. None of the Crunch players will get a huge raise, I can see Killorn and Conacher getting 2-2.5 mil for 3 years.

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03-20-2013, 11:35 AM
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After next season Salo will be most off the books, Ohlund hopefully will be retired so thats 8 mil there. None of the Crunch players will get a huge raise, I can see Killorn and Conacher getting 2-2.5 mil for 3 years.
Malone and Brewer could be moved. Carle bought out if he continues to suck like this.

Ohlund just stays on LTIR so he basically doesn't count against the cap.

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03-21-2013, 10:50 AM
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I had a random thought:

Would a Carle - Myers swap be something to explore. Neither team seems happy with their players play, and maybe a change of scenery/system would be good for both.

Same cap hit, almost same years left (Myers 4 and Carle 5 after this year.)

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I had a random thought:

Would a Carle - Myers swap be something to explore. Neither team seems happy with their players play, and maybe a change of scenery/system would be good for both.

Same cap hit, almost same years left (Myers 4 and Carle 5 after this year.)
I'd take Myers. I think it's all confidence with him.

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03-21-2013, 12:07 PM
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I had a random thought:

Would a Carle - Myers swap be something to explore. Neither team seems happy with their players play, and maybe a change of scenery/system would be good for both.

Same cap hit, almost same years left (Myers 4 and Carle 5 after this year.)
Buffalo fans would think your trolling with a proposal like that.
Myers is 5 years younger and a monster in size, they have huge hopes he'll turn it around.
Would be great if we could make it happen but I don't even think adding a 1st would.

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Lee has been awful for years, and people want to keep him. Carle has been bad for a half season here, and people want to get rid of him.
Agreed 100%. Keep Carle IMO. Is he overpaid? Yes.. but he has also been paired with Brewer who is down right turrible making him look worse than he is at times. Carle can be a serviceable top 4.

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Agreed 100%. Keep Carle IMO. Is he overpaid? Yes.. but he has also been paired with Brewer who is down right turrible making him look worse than he is at times. Carle can be a serviceable top 4.
That's what I have been trying to say !!!!

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We should seriously consider amnestying Lecavalier this offseason or next why we still have the option to use an amnesty buyout. Getting his contract off the books for what he produces would go a long way towards retaining the depth Yzerman has built up.

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We should seriously consider amnestying Lecavalier this offseason or next why we still have the option to use an amnesty buyout. Getting his contract off the books for what he produces would go a long way towards retaining the depth Yzerman has built up.
I would wait until the 2014 summer at least - get all the production we can before buying out that contract. That contract off the book will help the Lightning in the long-term. Unfortunately, I don't think Yzerman thinks the same way.

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03-21-2013, 06:28 PM
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I would wait until the 2014 summer at least - get all the production we can before buying out that contract. That contract off the book will help the Lightning in the long-term. Unfortunately, I don't think Yzerman thinks the same way.
I agree about waiting till 2014, if he can't stay healthy all of next year I'm sure they'll entertain the idea. I wouldn't want to buy him out and then see him sign with another team. It'll be nice if we can buy him out and convince him to retire and take a job with the organization.

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03-21-2013, 06:32 PM
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I agree about waiting till 2014, if he can't stay healthy all of next year I'm sure they'll entertain the idea. I wouldn't want to buy him out and then see him sign with another team. It'll be nice if we can buy him out and convince him to retire and take a job with the organization.
This early? No way he would retire. He can still produce and is a good player when he's healthy.

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03-21-2013, 06:48 PM
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This early? No way he would retire. He can still produce and is a good player when he's healthy.
That's why I don't think he'll be bought out. If he can't stay healthy next year he might consider it cause he doesn't want to ruin his body for the rest of his life.

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03-21-2013, 07:33 PM
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I think this question has been asked before, but can you buy a player out and then offer him a new contract? A much more fair contract for what he produces and what he brings to the table?

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I think this question has been asked before, but can you buy a player out and then offer him a new contract? A much more fair contract for what he produces and what he brings to the table?
You cannot. At least for a year, or something like that.

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I think this question has been asked before, but can you buy a player out and then offer him a new contract? A much more fair contract for what he produces and what he brings to the table?
Nope, you lose rights to negotiate for a year.

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03-21-2013, 07:46 PM
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We should seriously consider amnestying Lecavalier this offseason or next why we still have the option to use an amnesty buyout. Getting his contract off the books for what he produces would go a long way towards retaining the depth Yzerman has built up.
This is what i'm thinking, too. I love Vinny, but... eesh.

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03-21-2013, 08:06 PM
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Can they tell him to sign with another team just for one season? Come back to the team he loves with a contract that does not hurt the team's cap and get two paychecks? That would make TBL the butt of many jokes though.

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Can they tell him to sign with one team just for one season? Come back to the team he loves with a contract that does not hurt the team's cap and get two paychecks? That would make TBL the butt of many jokes though.
I think our performances this season have already done that.

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If Kipper is on the outs in Calgary, how do you all feel having him for the one year? I have no idea what Calgary would want, but I am just wondering what everyone thinks. I personally would think Kipper is the best goalie for us right now.

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03-21-2013, 10:15 PM
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If Kipper is on the outs in Calgary, how do you all feel having him for the one year? I have no idea what Calgary would want, but I am just wondering what everyone thinks. I personally would think Kipper is the best goalie for us right now.
Most likely he is not an option as he will be expensive. SportsNet speculated that the price for Toronto was Reimer/Scrivens + a 1st.

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Most likely he is not an option as he will be expensive. SportsNet speculated that the price for Toronto was Reimer/Scrivens + a 1st.
The Calgary fans on here seemed to think a decent offensive prospect (which, I think we could dig up one of those) and maybe a mid-rounder would do the trick. That said, the Calgary fans on here aren't Jay Feaster.

Not that I'm ready to pull the plug on him, but I wonder if they'd consider Lindback+ something good but not great. Then Kipper holds the reigns until Vasi is ready.

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