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03-21-2013, 10:08 PM
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I don't think he's very good.

Luongo is the best option available on the market, bar none. It's either him or Kipper for me because I know they can stabilize the position.
I'll gamble on him being an upgrade over Reimer and most realistic at this point of time.

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I'd offer them up Bozak (signed deal of course), a 2nd rounder, and Komi for Luongo.

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I think we should sell high on Bozak for once...

I would be looking for a Kaberle type trade...

TOR: 1st + 3rd that turns into a 2nd (conditional SC appearance)

Give Kadri the #1 spot. This will benefit us for our playoff run and on draft day IMO.

JVR - Kadri - Kessel
MacA - Grabo - Lupul
Kulemin - McClement - Frattin
McLaren - Komarov - Orr

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If we're getting Lou's contract, Grabo's gotta go the other way ... Obviously there's a + there, but the fit for Grabo in their line is somewhat there

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Scouts from 14 different #NHL teams at tonite's Sabs/Leafs game including several GMs.....Hmmmmm

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I'd offer them up Bozak (signed deal of course), a 2nd rounder, and Komi for Luongo.
I wouldn't. A 2nd rounder is too valuable an asset in this draft, and we are not exactly loaded at centre beyond Kadri. And if the Leaf defense doesn't play any better, Roberto will run into the same problem that he is currently having in Vancouver X 2.

If we are going to trade a centre we need a centre back (Grabovski/Stastny, anyone?)

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Scouts from 14 different #NHL teams at tonite's Sabs/Leafs game including several GMs.....Hmmmmm
After last night's game too?

A travelling band of GM's following the Leafs around?

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I think we should sell high on Bozak for once...

I would be looking for a Kaberle type trade...

TOR: 1st + 3rd that turns into a 2nd (conditional SC appearance)

Give Kadri the #1 spot. This will benefit us for our playoff run and on draft day IMO.

JVR - Kadri - Kessel
MacA - Grabo - Lupul
Kulemin - McClement - Frattin
McLaren - Komarov - Orr
If we're trading Bozak, at least package him with someone so we get an impact player back, it will benefit us more than just picks.

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Scouts from 14 different #NHL teams at tonite's Sabs/Leafs game including several GMs.....Hmmmmm
That seems nice.

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James Fink ‏@BfloBizJimFink 4h
Scouts from 14 different #NHL teams at tonite's Sabs/Leafs game including several GMs.....Hmmmmm
Buffalo is selling, aren't they?

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If we're getting Lou's contract, Grabo's gotta go the other way ... Obviously there's a + there, but the fit for Grabo in their line is somewhat there
Agreed!

TOR: Luongo
VAN: Grabovski + Scrivens + 2nd

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If we're getting Lou's contract, Grabo's gotta go the other way ... Obviously there's a + there, but the fit for Grabo in their line is somewhat there
+ for whom? That contract is why Lou hasn't been traded so far. Offers aren't jumping off the table for him. I wouldn't play into Vancouver's hand.

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03-21-2013, 10:26 PM
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If we're trading Bozak, at least package him with someone so we get an impact player back, it will benefit us more than just picks.
I think picks is the most realistic. A PO team that is making a run wont give up an "impact player" because they are making a run...

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Trade Bozak and MacA before deadline.

JvR - Bozak - Kessel
Frattin/Kulemin - Kadri - Lupul

For our top six through the year.

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I think picks is the most realistic. A PO team that is making a run wont give up an "impact player" because they are making a run...
Bozak has been playing well though, he is key on faceoffs and is getting a few goals we have needed at risky times.

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I think picks is the most realistic. A PO team that is making a run wont give up an "impact player" because they are making a run...
Thats just it though Vancouver is in "win now" mode, us giving them picks will NOT help them. If we want Luongo, then a roster (maybe more) has to go the other way if the deal is to be finalized. Bozak they could use, he's young/cheap, great on faceoffs not to mention he can generate SOME offence. Of course, if it were me because were taking on his contract then Grabo needs to go the other way to even things out.

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Trade Bozak and MacA before deadline.

JvR - Bozak - Kessel
Frattin/Kulemin - Kadri - Lupul

For our top six through the year.


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Needs in order of importance:

-Top 4 defenseman that can play with phaneuf and handle shutdown mins

-Solid #2 or #1B center that is an upgrade over Bozak/Grabo

I believe in the goaltending, current problems are mostly defense related brain farts

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Thats just it though Vancouver is in "win now" mode, us giving them picks will NOT help them. If we want Luongo, then a roster (maybe more) has to go the other way if the deal is to be finalized. Bozak they could use, he's young/cheap, great on faceoffs not to mention he can generate SOME offence. Of course, if it were me because were taking on his contract then Grabo needs to go the other way to even things out.
never mentioned Van with Bozak.... But they are a good example of a team i would move him too for a 1st + 3rd that need help down the middle in their "win now" mode.

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Needs in order of importance:

-Top 4 defenseman that can play with phaneuf and handle shutdown mins

-Solid #2 or #1B center that is an upgrade over Bozak/Grabo

I believe in the goaltending, current problems are mostly defense related brain farts
Agreed 100%.

we have alot of offensive d-man and a solid #3 shutdown guy(fraser) and #1 guy(Phaneuf) but badly need a partner for phaneuf.

Not an all-star by any means, I actually have no idea who I'd trade for in that position, who could we get that has say around a 4-5 mil kind of salary?

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Bottom line is i would like to sell Bozak high not ONLY for good value in picks BUT to give Kadri more ice time and the #1C role.

IMO we have a better chance to win with Kadri plus we add quality picks.

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Needs in order of importance:

-Top 4 defenseman that can play with phaneuf and handle shutdown mins

-Solid #2 or #1B center that is an upgrade over Bozak/Grabo

I believe in the goaltending, current problems are mostly defense related brain farts
I'd probably put the goaltending as the #1 need right now. I have no faith in it so that might be a reason for the difference .

The top 4 D that we can put with Phaneuf would probably be second. But I'd also say sorting out the center situation would be good.

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Needs in order of importance:

-Top 4 defenseman that can play with phaneuf and handle shutdown mins

-Solid #2 or #1B center that is an upgrade over Bozak/Grabo

I believe in the goaltending, current problems are mostly defense related brain farts
- Jay Bouwmeester is definitely an option for a defensemen Phaneuf can be able to play with.
- Not necessarily. I think having Kadri/Bozak/Grabo is fine, packaging Grabo/Bozak with someone for a capable #1-2 centre would be nice though I do agree.

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Trade Bozak and MacA before deadline.

JvR - Bozak - Kessel
Frattin/Kulemin - Kadri - Lupul

For our top six through the year.
Wait what? Hahaha, trade Bozak and MacA and then retrade to get Bozak back? lol

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- Jay Bouwmeester is definitely an option for a defensemen Phaneuf can be able to play with.
- Not necessarily. I think having Kadri/Bozak/Grabo is fine, packaging Grabo/Bozak with someone for a capable #1-2 centre would be nice though I do agree.
high cost for bouw.

Bozak++ for stast then trade Grabo for Bottom 6 C and picks

Stast
Kadri
Mcclement
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much better group of centres.

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Now is the time to get luongo

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