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03-21-2013, 09:58 PM
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Let me try this again since my last post got shut down.

Coaching Staff: Keep Boucher (Ruff clearly not the answer) add Ulf Samuelsson to coach D

Trade:

Carle back to Philly for Grossmann...they need an offensive D and Tampa needs a shut down D

Brewer at trade line for a prospect and or draft pick...cap dump

Malone and a 3rd Rd pick to Pittsburgh for Letang...Pitt gets Malone back TB gets #1 offensive D

Signings:

Filppula...good speed and puck sense...token Red Wing player for SY
Ryder...goal scoring winger
Thompson...great 4th line center under GB coaching style
Garon...only goalie in GB system to consistently produce decent numbers/french/cheap
Miller...consistent worker and PKer
Smid-has been one of EDM most steady D over last few years
Kostka-logs a ton of min in TOR

Cory Conacher ($0.925m) / Steven Stamkos ($7.500m) / Martin St. Louis ($5.625m)
Brett Connolly ($1.633m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($7.727m) / Teddy Purcell ($4.500m)
Valtteri Filppula ($3.500m) / Alexander Killorn ($0.875m) / Michael Ryder ($3.500m)
Tom Pyatt ($0.600m) / Nate Thompson ($0.900m) / Drew Miller ($0.838m)
DEFENSEMEN
Kris Letang ($3.500m) / Victor Hedman ($4.000m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Sami Salo ($3.750m)
Ladislav Smid ($2.750m) / Mike Kostka ($1.500m)
Brian Lee ($1.150m) /
GOALTENDERS
Anders Lindback ($1.800m)
Mathieu Garon ($1.300m)


SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,479,773; BONUSES: $850,000
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $2,670,227

The only other thing I would consider is a Vinny buyout and sign Derek Roy???

Is this closer??? or did I just shut down this post too???
LMAO Your living In Fantasyland If you think you will get Filppula for $3.5million try more like $5.0million to $5.5million per year If Filppula would come that cheap dont you think that Detroit would have already had him resigned

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Filppula would be a nice addition.
Sorry not worth the $5.0m-$5.5m that he's asking for.

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03-21-2013, 10:09 PM
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The Calgary fans on here seemed to think a decent offensive prospect (which, I think we could dig up one of those) and maybe a mid-rounder would do the trick. That said, the Calgary fans on here aren't Jay Feaster.

Not that I'm ready to pull the plug on him, but I wonder if they'd consider Lindback+ something good but not great. Then Kipper holds the reigns until Vasi is ready.
Why would we want Kipper right now anyway? We aren't making the playoffs.
Rather keep our forward prospects to pick up a top 4 D. Lindback has been looking really good lately. If he keeps improving and Vasilevskiy does too then we'd have some really nice trade pieces in the future.

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03-22-2013, 12:19 AM
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Why would we want Kipper right now anyway? We aren't making the playoffs.
Rather keep our forward prospects to pick up a top 4 D. Lindback has been looking really good lately. If he keeps improving and Vasilevskiy does too then we'd have some really nice trade pieces in the future.
Kipper has one more year on his contract. The main reason I would want him is in that one year, we should be in the playoffs. It gives Lindback another year just to get adjusted. I have confidence in Lindback but I still think he will struggle with our weak D next year if nothing is improved. Kipper is the perfect stop gap for 1 year in my opinion. Maybe Connolly + Lee + 3rd gets it done?

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03-22-2013, 01:37 AM
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Our <25 year old depth chart:

Conacher| Stamkos| Connolly
Killorn| Johnson| Panik
Palat| Namestnikov| Tyrell
Gusev| Paquette| Brown
Gauthier| Peca| Kucherov
||Hart

Hedman| Gudas
Aulie| Sustr
Barberio| Witkowski
Korobov| Sergeev
Nesterov|Blujus
Koekkoek| Dotchin

Lindback
Helenius
Janus
Vasilevski
Wilcox

That is a lot of talented, young, hockey players. The future looks good.

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03-22-2013, 07:25 AM
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Kipper has one more year on his contract. The main reason I would want him is in that one year, we should be in the playoffs. It gives Lindback another year just to get adjusted. I have confidence in Lindback but I still think he will struggle with our weak D next year if nothing is improved. Kipper is the perfect stop gap for 1 year in my opinion. Maybe Connolly + Lee + 3rd gets it done?
That's a terrible trade. I wouldn't trade Connolly straight up for him. Kipper hasn't even been having a good year and has been getting injured more often. We can go with Lindback next year and get a rental at the deadline for much cheaper.

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Our <25 year old depth chart:

Conacher| Stamkos| Connolly
Killorn| Johnson| Panik
Palat| Namestnikov| Tyrell
Gusev| Paquette| Brown
Gauthier| Peca| Kucherov
||Hart

Hedman| Gudas
Aulie| Sustr
Barberio| Witkowski
Korobov| Sergeev
Nesterov|Blujus
Koekkoek| Dotchin

Lindback
Helenius
Janus
Vasilevski
Wilcox

That is a lot of talented, young, hockey players. The future looks good.
You forgot Tanner Richard.

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You forgot Tanner Richard.
I didn't forget him, I just stopped the list at that point. There are some more guys like Hutchings, Milan, Landry, Mullin, O'Donnell also.

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03-22-2013, 10:37 AM
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Apparently in the Carolina game last night the 'Canes PBP team said Yzerman told them he intends to re-sign Garon for next year
This organization does not faith in Dejardins/Helenius/Janus to take the backup position next season. We might as well have kept Tokarski then.

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03-22-2013, 10:39 AM
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That team is stacked. What are they gonna do with all those guys?? So much talent.

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This organization does not faith in Dejardins/Helenius/Janus to take the backup position next season. We might as well have kept Tokarski then.
Yes, lets take two young goaltenders and run with them next year.

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That's a terrible decision by SY if true. Garon has a bad groin that he's guaranteed to pull at least once a season.

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Number 1 on our list to acquire in the off season should be a proper goalie coach that doesn't do meth.

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Yes, lets take two young goaltenders and run with them next year.
I would rather go with Desjardins than Garon.

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Goaltenders for next season:
1. Lindback
2. Who cares, give Lindback all the starts.

Trim the fat off this team, give the young players more minutes next season. Next season should be a "we're a pretender until proven otherwise" year.

The more I watch these kids play, the more obvious it is that we don't need Marty to win a cup. Goal should be to have these kids ready, Lindback ready and the defense gelled for the 2014-15 season.

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Could the reason for all the Crunch players (as opposed to filling spots with FAs or trades) be because Yzerman is planning to replace Boucher with Cooper?

Is Yzerman giving NHL experience to the Crunch players, while potentially shopping some to other GMs, because Cooper will be coming in next season?

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Could the reason for all the Crunch players (as opposed to filling spots with FAs or trades) be because Yzerman is planning to replace Boucher with Cooper?

Is Yzerman giving NHL experience to the Crunch players, while potentially shopping some to other GMs, because Cooper will be coming in next season?
I have a feeling that this is not the case. One of the strengths of the organization is it's depth, why not utilize that?

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What would you guys want to do with our bottom-6 ??
We have all those talented players coming up and thats so nice, but I get the intention, that we will lack grid next year again.

Right now it looks like our bottom 6 could be:
Palat-Pyatt-other prospect
Crombeen/maybe a serious though guy-Thompson-???
Labrie

Thompson is a hell of a 4th line center
Palat has great defensive awarness and will be a great 3rd liner for years to come.
Crombeen... well he is Crombeen and does what he is asked to do, but sucks at it.
Pyatt, well I'm not that much a fan of him, because I don't think he is used in the right position. He is less physical than Thompson, while putting up equal numbers and he lacks this mentality, that Thompson brings to the ice (aka the goal against the Devils). SoI would prefer to bring in a different player for him.

My problem is, we have no role player prospects in the pipeline, while it's one of our biggest weaknesses.

I would prefer a guy like Marcel Goc over Pyatt as our third line center and a though guy like Cal Clutterbuck as a 3rd/4th line . Maybe a guy like Abdelkader or any of the though Red Wings (they have plenty of them) as the other winger for Thompson.

My dream lineup would be:
Palat-Goc-prospect
???/Crombeen-Thompson-Clutterbuck
Labrie

This would be a very competitive and effective bottom-6 group in my opinion.
So what do you guys think??

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What would you guys want to do with our bottom-6 ??
We have all those talented players coming up and thats so nice, but I get the intention, that we will lack grid next year again.

Right now it looks like our bottom 6 could be:
Palat-Pyatt-other prospect
Crombeen/maybe a serious though guy-Thompson-???
Labrie

Thompson is a hell of a 4th line center
Palat has great defensive awarness and will be a great 3rd liner for years to come.
Crombeen... well he is Crombeen and does what he is asked to do, but sucks at it.
Pyatt, well I'm not that much a fan of him, because I don't think he is used in the right position. He is less physical than Thompson, while putting up equal numbers and he lacks this mentality, that Thompson brings to the ice (aka the goal against the Devils). SoI would prefer to bring in a different player for him.

My problem is, we have no role player prospects in the pipeline, while it's one of our biggest weaknesses.

I would prefer a guy like Marcel Goc over Pyatt as our third line center and a though guy like Cal Clutterbuck as a 3rd/4th line . Maybe a guy like Abdelkader or any of the though Red Wings (they have plenty of them) as the other winger for Thompson.

My dream lineup would be:
Palat-Goc-prospect
???/Crombeen-Thompson-Clutterbuck
Labrie

This would be a very competitive and effective bottom-6 group in my opinion.
So what do you guys think??
I actually looked through the FA options this summer in the toughness/agitator department, and the best are Clarkson, Cooke, Orr, McGrattan, LaRose and Kostopoulos (might have missed some). Not exactly the deepest group of tough guys and Clarkson's likely out of our price range. Orr's by far the best enforcer of the group, but I'm not convinced he's a good enough player to play consistent minutes. Either way, it'd be nice to finally have a true heavyweight fighter.

Malone-T.Johnson/Pyatt-Panik/Tyrell
Palat-Thompson-Orr

Personally, that would be my ideal bottom 6 with Malone and Orr meeting the toughness quotia and Nate, Panik and Palat are all not shy to take the body and are incredibly efficient defensively. What do you think?


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What would you guys want to do with our bottom-6 ??
We have all those talented players coming up and thats so nice, but I get the intention, that we will lack grid next year again.

Right now it looks like our bottom 6 could be:
Palat-Pyatt-other prospect
Crombeen/maybe a serious though guy-Thompson-???
Labrie

Thompson is a hell of a 4th line center
Palat has great defensive awarness and will be a great 3rd liner for years to come.
Crombeen... well he is Crombeen and does what he is asked to do, but sucks at it.
Pyatt, well I'm not that much a fan of him, because I don't think he is used in the right position. He is less physical than Thompson, while putting up equal numbers and he lacks this mentality, that Thompson brings to the ice (aka the goal against the Devils). SoI would prefer to bring in a different player for him.

My problem is, we have no role player prospects in the pipeline, while it's one of our biggest weaknesses.

I would prefer a guy like Marcel Goc over Pyatt as our third line center and a though guy like Cal Clutterbuck as a 3rd/4th line . Maybe a guy like Abdelkader or any of the though Red Wings (they have plenty of them) as the other winger for Thompson.

My dream lineup would be:
Palat-Goc-prospect
???/Crombeen-Thompson-Clutterbuck
Labrie

This would be a very competitive and effective bottom-6 group in my opinion.
So what do you guys think??
Couldn't disagree more with this. If every player put in the consistent effort Pyatt puts in then this team would have no problems whatsoever. Him and Thompson are dream bottom sixers. I would say Pyatt has more offensive skill though.

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Couldn't disagree more with this. If every player put in the consistent effort Pyatt puts in then this team would have no problems whatsoever. Him and Thompson are dream bottom sixers. I would say Pyatt has more offensive skill though.
Absolutely agree with this.

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Couldn't disagree more with this. If every player put in the consistent effort Pyatt puts in then this team would have no problems whatsoever. Him and Thompson are dream bottom sixers. I would say Pyatt has more offensive skill though.
I'm in the same boat. Pyatt works his ass off every single shift.

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How would you guys feel about bringing in Orr as a UFA to fill our toughness/enforcer quotient?

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How would you guys feel about bringing in Orr as a UFA to fill our toughness/enforcer quotient?
He'd probably be inexpensive, but I think you can probably find someone for the same price that scores more than 4 goals a season if that. I'd rather have Konopka back.

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He'd probably be inexpensive, but I think you can probably find someone for the same price that scores more than 4 goals a season if that. I'd rather have Konopka back.
He's signed through next season.

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