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03-21-2013, 01:11 PM
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Chi wouldn't trade Sharp

Even if they would - he has a NTC and wouldn't accept a trade

Chicago tax rate = 10% state tax
Quebec tax rate = 23ish% province tax

enough of a reason to say no

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I said Patrick Sharp, not Kane.

what are you willing to give for Eller ? cuz he will not be free.

edit : Sharp is 31 and the players with who he play help him a lot in his production, I hope that you don't forget it.
If you said Kane, then it would be Eller and Price.

For Eller? Kruger and a 4th maybe?
Pirri and a 2nd 2014
Morin and a 3rd 2014


..so, not much.

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What would it take to get Saad out of Chicago to mtl or is he untouchable? I've liked him but haven't followed him much this year

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If you said Kane, then it would be Eller and Price.

For Eller? Kruger and a 4th maybe?
Pirri and a 2nd 2014
Morin and a 3rd 2014


..so, not much.
alright so don't ask for eller anymore lol

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03-21-2013, 05:43 PM
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alright so don't ask for eller anymore lol
..don't think I ever did. We already have an Eller playing on our 4th line.

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03-22-2013, 03:15 AM
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What would it take to get Saad out of Chicago to mtl or is he untouchable? I've liked him but haven't followed him much this year
Galchenyuk +

He's pretty much untouchable at this point. Dude is what 20? and is a mainstay on the top line of one of three best teams in NHL

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03-22-2013, 03:30 AM
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Galchenyuk +

He's pretty much untouchable at this point. Dude is what 20? and is a mainstay on the top line of one of three best teams in NHL


I can assure you as a fan of neither team, Montreal would laugh uncontrollably about Chicago wanting Galchenyuk+ for Saad.If Chicago wanted Galchenyuk who is one of the top 5 prospects in the game it would be Saad+++.Saad is at a .5 PPG.It's not like he's a ppg player or playing anywhere near that level.Just because you may play on a top line doesn't make you a 1st line player.

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03-22-2013, 04:09 AM
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Galchenyuk +

He's pretty much untouchable at this point. Dude is what 20? and is a mainstay on the top line of one of three best teams in NHL
You can't be serious.

Don't be shocked, if for example, the hawks are looking for a pominville or miller that saad is the main piece going back to buffalo. Him or shaw

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03-22-2013, 05:00 AM
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Galchenyuk +

He's pretty much untouchable at this point. Dude is what 20? and is a mainstay on the top line of one of three best teams in NHL
Thats fine, Saad is a gem and its ok to have a high asking price. He is a part of the best team of the league.

So if this + is Eller.

Galchenyuk + Eller for Saad

Do we have a deal?

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03-22-2013, 05:11 AM
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Thats fine, Saad is a gem and its ok to have a high asking price. He is a part of the best team of the league.

So if this + is Eller.

Galchenyuk + Eller for Saad

Do we have a deal?
you're fired.

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Thats fine, Saad is a gem and its ok to have a high asking price. He is a part of the best team of the league.

So if this + is Eller.

Galchenyuk + Eller for Saad

Do we have a deal?
lol

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I could see the following as Chicago targets

MTL: Eller, Ryder
BUF: Ott, Hecht, Regehr


But I honestly feel Chicago is going to trade for Eller

He fits their cap and is a big body
But he's playing well and Montreal would want ALOT
No. Friggin. Way.

Table scraps are not going to go in exchange for Eller. He's clearly one of the organization's brighter lights for this season and the future. Steve Ott can be "untouchable" on another team.

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Thats fine, Saad is a gem and its ok to have a high asking price. He is a part of the best team of the league.

So if this + is Eller.

Galchenyuk + Eller for Saad

Do we have a deal?
and yuk.

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03-22-2013, 06:40 AM
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Hawks would say yes without thinking twice about it

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Thats fine, Saad is a gem and its ok to have a high asking price. He is a part of the best team of the league.

So if this + is Eller.

Galchenyuk + Eller for Saad

Do we have a deal?
This must be a joke...

Saad
20 yrs, 6'1" 202lbs
29-4-11 +9
21 hits

vs.

Galchenyuk
19 yrs, 6'1" 198lbs
30-3-11 +8
13 hits

Eller
23yrs, 6'2" 198lbs
28-4-12 +5
53 hits

Basically Montreal gives up at least twice as much as they should based on stats alone. There are more than just stats involved in trades, such as intangibles and upside.

In terms of upside the rankings would go:

Galchenyuk>Saad=Eller

A fair trade believe it or not is Saad for Eller + pick (to compensate for age difference).

I doubt either team agrees to this because they know what they have with Saad and Eller and are happy with their player.

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03-22-2013, 08:28 AM
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This must be a joke...

Its close to a joke.

I was mainly wondering if Chicago fans would accept it or still want more. I like to find out the asking price of these untouchable. And the only way to do it is to put an offer they cant refuse then add and add, until they accept the deal.

There is nothing wrong in having an high asking price, and i dont feel i am doing a joke in trying to find it. Just keep in mind that obviously i would not do it as a habs fan. Its normal and frequent that the gap between the asking price and the offer is large

I did something similar last month in this thread...

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...php?p=60418609

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Well, that's kinda why i want him.....

ok, i will add Desharnais on top of my previous offer and throw-in Bournival (7C prospect, 71th overall 2010)

to Montreal : Shore
to Florida : Desharnais, Eller, Beaulieu, Weber, Bournival + 4th round

do we have a deal?

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If you said Kane, then it would be Eller and Price.

For Eller? Kruger and a 4th maybe?
Pirri and a 2nd 2014
Morin and a 3rd 2014


..so, not much.
So you do not want him. You could have just said "I don't want Eller".

If Chicago is interested in Eller (Chicago, not you), then something that could be of interest would be

Eller and a 2nd

for

Saad and Jimmy Hayes.

Eller is worth it. The garbage proposals you made aren't worth the imaginary ink used to write it. Chicago needs a second line center, Montreal needs a big winger. Need for need, youth for youth. If the second in 2013 is not that interesting, we can add a guy like Kristo or Leblanc.

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So you do not want him. You could have just said "I don't want Eller".

If Chicago is interested in Eller (Chicago, not you), then something that could be of interest would be

Eller and a 2nd

for

Saad and Jimmy Hayes.

Eller is worth it. The garbage proposals you made aren't worth the imaginary ink used to write it. Chicago needs a second line center, Montreal needs a big winger. Need for need, youth for youth. If the second in 2013 is not that interesting, we can add a guy like Kristo or Leblanc.
Chicago wouldn't be interested at all in a deal involving Saad.

Eller is not a 2nd line C.

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Thats fine, Saad is a gem and its ok to have a high asking price. He is a part of the best team of the league.

So if this + is Eller.

Galchenyuk + Eller for Saad

Do we have a deal?
No, we have Bergevin laughing uncontrollably until he vomits and passes out.

Dude, you need to stop pretending to be a Habs fan on these boards. With your inane desire to get rid of Price, and now you want to send Eller and Galchenyuk out for Saad, it is becoming very apparent that you hate the Habs.

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Its close to a joke.

I was mainly wondering if Chicago fans would accept it or still want more. I like to find out the asking price of these untouchable. And the only way to do it is to put an offer they cant refuse then add and add, until they accept the deal.

There is nothing wrong in having an high asking price, and i dont feel i am doing a joke in trying to find it. Just keep in mind that obviously i would not do it as a habs fan. Its normal and frequent that the gap between the asking price and the offer is large

I did something similar last month in this thread...

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...php?p=60418609
You are right, it isn't a joke. It is an outright insult. Your offer in this thread, and that garbage in the other thread are the kind of deals that destroy franchises and make the fans of teams who create such offers look like they have no clue about what they are discussing.

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Chicago wouldn't be interested at all in a deal involving Saad.

Eller is not a 2nd line C.
1--I can completely understand. It is what it would take to get Eller, though.

2--Proves you have no knowledge about Habs players outside of the TSN boxscore on the occasional Wednesday night.

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CHI & MON make terrible trading partners. Both teams in serious contention, and the players that are being discussed (Eller, Saad) are both already contributing in a major fashion and have the potential for even more.

From CHI's perspective, If MON decided to move Eller to the Hawks, it would have to be for futures though because the Hawks wouldn't want to open up major holes (Saad playing as 1st line LW, or Hjalmarsson playing #3D) without having a qualified replacement to potentially fill the #2C spot. Totally understand that the Habs are HIGHLY unlikely to move a player like Eller for futures at this point.

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So you do not want him. You could have just said "I don't want Eller".

If Chicago is interested in Eller (Chicago, not you), then something that could be of interest would be

Eller and a 2nd

for

Saad and Jimmy Hayes.

Eller is worth it. The garbage proposals you made aren't worth the imaginary ink used to write it. Chicago needs a second line center, Montreal needs a big winger. Need for need, youth for youth. If the second in 2013 is not that interesting, we can add a guy like Kristo or Leblanc.
Hayes and McNeil for Plekanec

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You can't be serious.

Don't be shocked, if for example, the hawks are looking for a pominville or miller that saad is the main piece going back to buffalo. Him or shaw
Lol at Andrew Shaw being in equal value to saad.

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