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03-22-2013, 04:44 PM
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21 years old.
He just turned 22 the other day.

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It is not his fault that the coach hates him.
Who's fault is it then? You make it sound like he was playing great but the coaches just refused to play him. Did you happen to watch him last year? He regressed as the season went on and was actually outplayer by Berger which is telling in it's own right. I thought he looked a little better this year and I would have prefered to see him get more ice time then he did, especially since the Dogs were so bad but that speaks even more to his problems as I know the coaching staff said they were working with him in practice.

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you can tell he has all kinds of skill but floated around alot and accomplished nothing.
that sums it up

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03-22-2013, 05:09 PM
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He's not a pokemon.

If he can't push himself to consistent NHL quality he's not making it.
I don't think it's a matter of effort, whenever I've seen him the effort seems to be there. I just don't think he's been capable of mentally adapting to the North American game for some reason. It won't be the last time someone with talent just can't think the game at a high enough level.

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03-22-2013, 06:12 PM
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I wish we had that thread, from draft day. people were losing it here; I might have been one.

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I wish we had that thread, from draft day. people were losing it here; I might have been one.
Well there's this one:

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...t=draft+avtsin

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03-22-2013, 06:32 PM
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In retrospect, this is kind of tragic.

Looks like it's what the Dynamo coach said...

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Q: So he is not the next Ovechkin, is he?
A:Actually, I wouldn't be rushing to making pronouncements. Yes, Avtsin has some real raw tallent. But he has certain gaps in his technical skills and tactical areas that he has to work on. How is he going to fix them? Different players correct those problems in different ways and there are some who never manage to fix them.

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That thread reminded me Trunev exists. What is that guy up to?

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03-22-2013, 06:35 PM
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That thread reminded me Trunev exists. What is that guy up to?
Ask Erika.


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Ask Erika.

I actually came back to this thread to edit my post with:



... even worse, I just remembered Erika existed


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03-22-2013, 06:54 PM
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not quite the same. the one on draft day talked about the russian factor, and how he was oveckin-lite. I remember some pretty silly predictions, thanks though.

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03-22-2013, 08:01 PM
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I actually came back to this thread to edit my post with:

... even worse, I just remembered Erika existed
Want to know what she's up to? Just ask Trunev...

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03-22-2013, 08:08 PM
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Was this guy the one who was supposed to be a "sleeper" and compared to Ovechkin?

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03-22-2013, 09:48 PM
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You know that you have a great head scout when a 4th round pick is actually bashed as if he'd was a 1st round pick...

Avtsin was a POTENTIAL gem and sleeper. What do people don't understand with POTENTIAL? And what do people don't understand with sleeper? A sleeper is actually a guy that isn't seen as great but "could" become one. Key word....COULD. Sometimes work, some other times, doesn't....Yet, let's bash posters who were eager to see him play and listened to Timmins and were excited.

Time to move on, though I suspect that if somebody talks to Gaston Therrien about it....we'll keep hearing about it since we did select Avtsin instead of Gabriel Bourque....We might never hear the end of it so might as well close it here and wait till it explodes later...

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Yet another great talent trashed by the organisation. Couldve accounted to something good but heh...
You mean like Pleks, Tinordi, Markov, Gally, Gallagher, Subban and Price?

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03-22-2013, 10:51 PM
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Typical fans' overhyping. And wasn't Trunev supposed to be Pavel Bure lite?

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03-22-2013, 11:05 PM
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Was this guy the one who was supposed to be a "sleeper" and compared to Ovechkin?
He was.

Not every player works out.

Avtsin tends to do great in player drills but doesn't bring it in the game.

Maybe time in the ECHL will help him find his game. Wouldn't be the first. If not, who cares? If every prospect worked out the team wouldn't know who to keep and who to trade.

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I remember when he first came over and was at camp in the summer he had everyone freaking out, he looked really good, so much for him!
Good skill player but no physicality for being professional in the higher leagues.

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03-23-2013, 09:45 AM
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He has talent. He shouldve been groomed to be a good player.
I doubt that lack of proper grooming by any of his teams was the main
problem with this player. Most highly talented hockey players fail to make
the NHL. It takes a very special type of person to become a successful
professional athlete.
That having been said, the things that Avtsin seems to lack are mental
and emotional. And he is only 22. Some mental and emotional things can
change a lot quickly. Much more so than physical things.
If this guy figures out what he has to work on in practices, and off the
ice, as well as in games, and discovers the will to do it, he could still become
a good player.
I'm not saying this will happen. But it certainly could. And with his skill
level, and size, that's still worth hoping for.


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03-23-2013, 09:52 AM
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Great talent lol, the guy never even played for his U20 national team, he was overhyped cause he is Russian... you know, everybody knows Russians have upside..
I thought he did. Maybe I'm mistaken.

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03-23-2013, 11:28 AM
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I thought he did. Maybe I'm mistaken.
That was Trunev.

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Look at it this way. Gallagher and Avtsin were two high talent, low probability fourth round picks. One surpassed expectations, one tanked.

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