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03-22-2013, 02:51 PM
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Which Russian forwards have shown the most consistent hard-work ethic in the NHL?

Players who seemed to always care about the team & their teammates, and gave 100% and never took 'days off' or had lazy shifts, particularly in the face of strong opposition or during a scoring drought. The kind who never gave up, who fought to the bitter end even in a losing cause, who would take a hit to make a play and back up like they've got a firecracker up their butt to go help the defense when there's a turnover... Etc...

Doesn't have to be the most skilled and could be open to all former USSR member countries, not just Russia.

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I'll throw Yushkevich in there to get things started.

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I would name Konstantinov, Larionov, and Datsyuk. Probably Malkin.

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Sergei Brylin and Sergei Nemchinov come to mind. Guys who unfortunately for the NHL would probably stay in the KHL today to be domestic stars rather than hard working role players in the NHL.

Igor Larionov probably fits - he was a little softer than Brylin and Nemchinov, but from what I recall, always had a good work ethic.

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I would name Konstantinov, Larionov, and Datsyuk. Probably Malkin.
I think Malkin is pretty much the opposite of what this thread is about. Dude often coasts without the puck.

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Sergei Brylin was the first name that came into my head and I was hoping to beat TDMM to the thread...I did not.

Leo Komarov is a pretty hard worker it seems - though he's Estonian/Finnish or whatever his deal is...

Konstantin Koltsov worked pretty hard in his brief stint in the NHL...but I think he was from Belarus...

I'm sorry I stopped by...

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For a while, you definitely would have thought of Ovechkin for this thread. Malkin doesn't fit I don't think. Unbelievable talent but falls into the category of having off nights.

I guess as a goalie you can't complain much about Khabibulin. Definitely had the potential to steal a game on any night and I don't remember him mailing it in too often.

In the playoffs............no doubt about it Fedorov. We complained that he could have gone without coasting in the regular season, but no one doubted him in the postseason.

Anyone else appreciate the level Kamensky played? I thought he was always dangerous, had some nice playoff runs and in many ways was almost like Ovechkin-lite.

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Sergei Brylin and Sergei Nemchinov come to mind. Guys who unfortunately for the NHL would probably stay in the KHL today to be domestic stars rather than hard working role players in the NHL.
artem chubarov, who unfortunately for canucks fans did go back to the KHL.

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Taking 'days off' is such a stupid phrase. It applies to 0 players in the NHL.

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Kamensky was absolutely incredible, but I cannot comment on his work ethics. I know he was a constant threat against us in playoffs.

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Taking 'days off' is such a stupid phrase. It applies to 0 players in the NHL.
... apart from Mario Lemieux.

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Taking 'days off' is such a stupid phrase. It applies to 0 players in the NHL.
Perhaps. But do you think that all NHL players have the same level of effort every shift?

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Perhaps. But do you think that all NHL players have the same level of effort every shift?
No, but I always question the causes for reduced effort. I really doubt it's guys just being not wanting to be there instead of guys who are gassed/conserving their energy or players who are more temporarily absent minded. I also think it's a more a difference from a full-on psychotic level effort to a regular good effort.

The implication I get from this thread is that we're asking "who doesn't fit the Lazy Russian stereotype" and I'm of the mind that it's a fabrication.

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Last night against the Jets, Ovechkin played like his old self. 1g, 2a and a number of body checks. He deserves an honorable mention even if he is not as consistent as he once was.

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I would name Konstantinov, Larionov, and Datsyuk. Probably Malkin.
Of the "stars" the 1st 3 guys stand out for me.

AO works hard a lot he just seems misdirected at times which is really weird as their doesn't seem to be any explaining his drop off in play.

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I will go with Larionov, whose head was always in the game. He did,however have that forgettable stint in NJ. Nemchinov was the hardest worker of a few hard workers.

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No, but I always question the causes for reduced effort. I really doubt it's guys just being not wanting to be there instead of guys who are gassed/conserving their energy or players who are more temporarily absent minded. I also think it's a more a difference from a full-on psychotic level effort to a regular good effort.

The implication I get from this thread is that we're asking "who doesn't fit the Lazy Russian stereotype" and I'm of the mind that it's a fabrication.
I'd say it's because of cultural differences and adjustments. People who are not comfortable in their surroundings tend to be less assertive. You often see this among N.A.'s in the KHL too.

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I'd say it's because of cultural differences and adjustments. People who are not comfortable in their surroundings tend to be less assertive. You often see this among N.A.'s in the KHL too.
Yes, good point. Also, they came from a country viewed as the red menace. Numerous Ukrainians, Polish and other Slavic people in Canada and the U.S. hated Russians. Plus, they came to N.A. often knowing no English and experienced all this freedom they once never had, perhaps waiting for someone to tell them what to do. I could go on and on about cultural adjustments.

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Nik Kulemin works his ass off

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Sergei Nemchinov is a good pick as Larionov. Both were hard working and cool professionals. A kind of antithesis for the Russian stereotype.

HM to Vlad Konstantinov, Darius Kasparaitis (Lithuanian, but played with team Russia) and Anton Volchenkov.

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Probably Igor Larionov.

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Nemchinov was the first name that came to mind when I saw the thread.

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Fetisov, always worked hard.

Then we have Titov, Nemchinov, Larionov, Datsyuk, Konstantinov, Kasatonov, Brylin, Zelepukin, Boris Mironov, Kravchuk, Nazarov, Salei, Yushkevich, Gusarov, Kamensky, Karpotsev, Skrastins, Kasparitis, Ulanov, Vishnevski and already mentioned Fedorov when playoff time was upon him.

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Igor Korolev for sure.

Karpovtsev, maybe not:

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Igor Korolev for sure.

Karpovtsev, maybe not:
Yes, he unwillingness to play for the hawks duing their demise should define his career. I would probably do the same thing, in fact many players seemed to take that to heart when playing for Wirtz.

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