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03-23-2013, 01:04 AM
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Dynamo - Ak-Bars would be heavy. Last lockout Ak-Bars ****ed up, Dynamo won.
No, it's not right comparison. Dinamo you are talking about doesn't exist. Current Dinamo is former HC MVD. The core of players is the same. And last time AkBars won HC MVD in 7-game series in the final of Gagarin Cup several years ago.

It is biggest surprise that Dinamo with these players is a heavy candidate now, but several years ago it was a low-budget team. Players are the same.

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You think that the teams that have 50% average attendance during the season, with glory hunters filling the stands only for the finals, nonexistent marketing and stupid transfer policy deserve to be champions? Wasting 1 mln on player you didn't need to begin with, only to bench him after 1 game?Their leadership is stuck in the last century, and are an epitome of everything that is holding KHL down.

It took KHL 3 years to persuade Ak Bars to change the lighting system on the arena. They would rather pay the penalty multiple times than improve something. Now the Ak Bars are the ones who are against the new ice surface painting technology, which is used on the most of NHL arenas, because it's not "eco-friendly". They don't want to do anything other than spend the oil money on buying out average players from the finnish league.

Now, why should I like them again?
I actually think AK Bars post 2005 lockout are a good model for how richer teams should function. They learned that its not always advisable to get every free agent under the Sun, like SKA is currently doing. They have their core group of players like Morozov, Zaripov, Nikulin, Tereshenko, Medvedev, and Kapanen. They than supplement this with foreigners, the trick is that they get guys who are just breaking and are not fully established stars. They serve their 1-3 seasons, and are replaced if better options become available or if they price themselves out like in the case of Martensen; they let a team like SKA overpay for him while they go out and get another emerging guy. Ocassionally they will keep someone for longer if they identify them as part of their core as in the case of Kapanen or Immonen.

You could argue that they don't develop enough of their own prospects even though there are some recent sucsesses like Petrov and Obukhov. I believe this is due to the fact that they have so many veteran established players and can buy prospective foreigners. So it become hard for prospects to get necessary ice time for the beginning of their development in Kazan. Thats why you will see that Kazan will often trade for emerging players, or get former Kazan players who have previously played there (ie. Korneev, Tereshenko) but where able to blossom elsewhere with more icetime.

Finally what I like about Kazan in recent years they have had a consistent team philosophy under Bill, and now under Belov. The fact that it is not a revolving door of trainers helps with acclimating said free agents, cause you have a firm system and core of players in place that help new players integrate and buy into the team effectively.

I think you're mad just cause its a "non traditional" eastern team thats doing this. Kazan has money and is willing to spend, at least they have something to show for it unlike SKA which is basically a league sponsored team (that I admit has good marketing and has done a great job of attracting fans) with horrible hockey management.

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03-23-2013, 04:19 AM
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Voting for the play-by-play announcer for the final series.
http://fanzone.khl.ru/votekhl.php

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03-23-2013, 04:22 AM
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Voting for the play-by-play announcer for the final series.
http://fanzone.khl.ru/votekhl.php
Masalyov ftw

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03-23-2013, 04:23 AM
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Also its horrifiying to think that there are 597 people who voted for Fjodorov.

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Voting for the play-by-play announcer for the final series.
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I vote for Sergei Fedotov with no doubt.

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Why is Mayorov not on the list?


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03-23-2013, 08:11 AM
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Why is Mayorov not on the list?

Because it's been two years since he last commentated a KHL game? I guess you know that, but why did you bring him up? KHL acknowledged that people didn't like him, and got rid of hip despite him being a honored veteran. Props to KHL.

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Because it's been two years since he last commentated a KHL game? I guess you know that, but why did you bring him up? KHL acknowledged that people didn't like him, and got rid of hip despite him being a honored veteran. Props to KHL.
Thats why the sarcasm smiley was there for Jesus ult you dont have to take everything seriously

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03-23-2013, 08:16 AM
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You think that the teams that have 50% average attendance during the season, with glory hunters filling the stands only for the finals, nonexistent marketing and stupid transfer policy deserve to be champions? Wasting 1 mln on player you didn't need to begin with, only to bench him after 1 game?Their leadership is stuck in the last century, and are an epitome of everything that is holding KHL down.

It took KHL 3 years to persuade Ak Bars to change the lighting system on the arena. They would rather pay the penalty multiple times than improve something. Now the Ak Bars are the ones who are against the new ice surface painting technology, which is used on the most of NHL arenas, because it's not "eco-friendly". They don't want to do anything other than spend the oil money on buying out average players from the finnish league.

Now, why should I like them again?
I agree with most parts but you cant rip Ak Bars for having NO marketing,thats certainly not true,but everything else is spot on,especially their leadership beeing in the last century.

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03-23-2013, 08:22 AM
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It's starting again. 2-0 Dynamo after 12 minutes!

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What a game in Kazan. Announcers are really "in game"

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What a game in Kazan. Announcers are really "in game"
Same thing in Peterburg. Great came, great announcing.

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Dynamo are extremly efficient and have a 3-1 lead after 20 minutes. The SKA goal was a big mistake by Yeryomenko! If they continue that way Dynamo are my favourites for Gagarin Cup. If they win today the series should be over in 4-5 games!

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Dynamo are extremly efficient and have a 3-1 lead after 20 minutes.
3 goals on 6 shots so statistics agree with you.

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03-23-2013, 09:15 AM
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Garnett is fantastic. He is the main reason the game is tie now.
Kuzya is good. He undressed Nikulin like a child. After that Nikulin got 2 + 10 penalty.
Don't like commentators on KHL-TV. Voices are too shrieking

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03-23-2013, 09:17 AM
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Dynamo 4-2 now. What a strange game. It's 90% SKA efforts but whenever Dynamo appears in front of the goalie it feels like a goal is to follow soon.

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Kovar, Salak or whoever to SKA this summer. Remember these words.

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03-23-2013, 09:27 AM
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You guys can say what you want but I think it's a coaching problem.

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You guys can say what you want but I think it's a coaching problem.
Nope its just SKA beeing SKA. just like always.

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Nope its just SKA beeing SKA. just like always.
So, the good old saying that this team is "uncoachable" in playoffs?

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So, the good old saying that this team is "uncoachable" in playoffs?
Probably

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Dynamo now have a 2-0 lead in their series against SKA and they look so much better! If SKA don't win both games in Moscow I see them out of competition!

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You guys can say what you want but I think it's a coaching problem.
No. THe problem is that the Ice Palace in Saint Petersburgh is cursed.
Words of Maxim Sushiski are prophetic

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SKA ownership curses the club with their own baffling decisions. They deserve every bit of hate they gate they gate. Sacking/hiring the wrong people every couple of months.

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