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03-23-2013, 11:58 AM
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Let's see if he fits the Habs fans' three-fold requirements of a valuable player:

1. Does he have a small cap hit? Check.
2. Is he tall? Nay.
3. Does he fight? Nay.

Diagnosis: Bad pick up.

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He could fit all three and the fourth question would be, "Is he John Scott?" and since the answer is no, it'd be a bad pick.

Still can't get over someone suggesting Lars Eller for John Scott here.

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He helps our faceoffs and penalty kill, a need more glaring than punching someone else in the face a few times. Prust, White, a couple others can do that just fine. We also gave up nothing for him.
Good.

Like I said, the Boston Bruins are laughing right now.

White is injured. Prust will not fight because of his shoulder and Moen has become a pacifist.

Good times. And we get a preview on Wednesday.

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In 30 games with the Rangers this season, he has ONE ASSIST and ZERO GOALS and is a -5.

If that does not scream out useless scrub, then I dont know what to tell you.

For comparison sakes, George Parros has 1 Goal and 1 Assist.

Halpern does not address a glaring need. Parros would
Brian Boyle has 2 points and is -8, but I see a ton of guys on this board clamouring for him. He's a great face-off guy and PKer, two major areas of concern for this team. Again, he cost literally nothing. This is a no risk-high reward move.

Parros is -9 and doesn't help our PK or Face-offs. He doesn't even really hit much more than Halpern. He'd also likely cost something.

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I respect what you think is wrong with the Habs. I know you crave size and agressivness.

But you need to acknowledge that we are brutal in two pivotal areas of the game: Faceoffs and PK.

Halpern will help these 2 issues. Sure, he won't help with problem #1, but he will give us a solution for #2 and #3.

One step at a time.
Faceoffs and PK.

And we are first in the NorthEast.

We are a talented team with small players who can and do score goals. Our defense has been playing well with support from our forwards.

Faceoffs and PK will not be the reason we struggle in the playoffs against a physical team like Boston or Ottawa.

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Brian Boyle has 2 points and is -8, but I see a ton of guys on this board clamouring for him.
they clamour for him for things that have absolutely nothing to do with his hockey performances.

He also failed miserably to replace Brandon Prust so that's why New York fans are low on him.

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03-23-2013, 12:01 PM
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Brian Boyle has 2 points and is -8, but I see a ton of guys on this board clamouring for him. He's a great face-off guy and PKer, two major areas of concern for this team. Again, he cost literally nothing. This is a no risk-high reward move.

Parros is -9 and doesn't help our PK or Face-offs. He doesn't even really hit much more than Halpern. He'd also likely cost something.
Boyle doesn't even fight. He has less fights than "pacifist" Moen this season. He has absolutely nothing going for him except being very tall. He'd help us if the Habs decided to switch to basketball.

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03-23-2013, 12:02 PM
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Would rather have dominic moore but I dont have a problem with this. WB Halpy!
I like Halpern signing but agree on this one especially since Moore scored one of the biggest goal for the Habs in the past 20 years vs the Caps in playoffs.

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03-23-2013, 12:04 PM
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Both are vets that have had terrible seasons. My point stands. I don't mind the move, I'm just laughing at the double standards here.
Not a double standard, one is for free, the other would cost us assets in a trade...

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03-23-2013, 12:05 PM
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Hard to complain about a move that didn't cost the team anything. Where is Dominic Moore anyways, How come he's not playing?
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Excellent pickup. Great veteran presence on the 4th line and expiring contract so no worries long term.

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Faceoffs and PK.

And we are first in the NorthEast.

We are a talented team with small players who can and do score goals. Our defense has been playing well with support from our forwards.

Faceoffs and PK will not be the reason we struggle in the playoffs against a physical team like Boston or Ottawa.
See who's #1 and #2 in PK: http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm...ewName=summary

See who's #1 and #17 (without their best FO% C in Spezza) in FO%: http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm...ewName=summary

In fact, if you look back the cup winners usually have at least 1 of a good PK or FO%:
11-12 LAK - 4th in PK / 7th in FO%
10-11 BOS - 16th in PK / 5th in FO%
09-10 CHI - 4th in PK / 3rd in FO%
08-09 PIT - 8th in PK / 19th in FO%


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03-23-2013, 12:08 PM
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Except he never had more than 7 points in a season for the Habs, and his chest snipes made Gionta look like Stamkos.
That is not his role!

We have 3 lines that can score.

It's just as important to prevent goals than to score them, something fans keep forgetting.... It's all about the "stats".

Halpren is a smart veteran who will help us on two team weaknesses:

1) PK unit #2 Center after Pleky.
2) Faceoffs!

Cost us nothing.... Great move!!

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03-23-2013, 12:09 PM
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Not a double standard, one is for free, the other would cost us assets in a trade...
So improving the club on waiver picks, because of the lower cost, is the formula for success now? Waiver wire picks are going to lead us to the promised land.

See how I can play this game too? Fun isn't it?

I'm not saying Clowe is the answer either, but I am hoping for a little more of a splash before the trade deadline comes, and goes ...

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Halpern is playing with goons most nights and is shooting just below 2.5%. Meaning even though he's playing an extremely defensive role and wouldn't be putting up many points to begin with, he also is having ridiculously bad luck.

And you know as well as the rest of us do that 4th liners aren't there to score points. Stop being disingenuous.



Halpern - costs the Habs nothing.

Clowe - would not cost the Habs nothing.

I'd be impressed if even the biggest Clowe hater on the planet would be pissed at picking him up off the waiver wire.
Halpern don't play with goons. Your argument is invalide

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Both are vets that have had terrible seasons. My point stands. I don't mind the move, I'm just laughing at the double standards here.
Halpern plays a WAY different role than Clowe. Halpern will center our 4th line and play the PK and take faceoffs. He isn't being counted on to score. They are not comparable.

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So much respect for MB right now, not trading off picks for rentals and depth.

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He's still the idiot who tipped in a harmless Horton point shot in game 7 OT.

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So improving the club on waiver picks, because of the lower cost, is the formula for success now? Waiver wire picks are going to lead us to the promised land.

See how I can play this game too? Fun isn't it?

I'm not saying Clowe is the answer either, but I am hoping for a little more of a splash before the trade deadline comes, and goes ...
I am confused, you liked it better last year when we made big splashes on the trade market, while on our way to last in the East? Only Habs fans can find fault with their team who is 2nd in the conference...

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Halpern plays a WAY different role than Clowe. Halpern will center our 4th line and play the PK and take faceoffs. He isn't being counted on to score. They are not comparable.
I've followed this team, and Halpern, long enough to know what he 'used' to bring.

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This is hilarious. In Antichambre the other day they were saying that under Bergevin and Therrien we won't see any more dead weights like Halpern and Smolinski.
Jeeze, man, one member of the panel says that and the whole group is painted with the same brush.

Last night Carbo & darche were saying Habs will probably put in a claim for Halpern because he would be a good pick up. And everyone agreed with it. Why don't you mention that.

When I heard them I said to myself no way they'll get him being 27th in line. A nice surprise. Surprise teams like Vancouver didn't pick him up. With Malhorta gone and Kesler constantly injured they need help at the center position.

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I am confused, you liked it better last year when we made big splashes on the trade market, while on our way to last in the East? Only Habs fans can find fault with their team who is 2nd in the conference...
Yeah, my love for the team management the last decade is well documented.....

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My first thought when hearing Halpern was on waivers: "The Habs are gonna grab him!". An obvious move that fits MB's battle plan.

Like (almost) everyone else, I'm happy we've addressed the FO issue with Halpern. Honestly don't know how his game has changed the last three years, but I'll reserve judgment until he plays.

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If nothing else Halpern is a massively better hockey player than Nokelainen.

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Someone who can win a key faceoff late in a game plus can kill penalties and it cost nothing. I'll take it.

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