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03-23-2013, 04:17 PM
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I have the feeling Bergevin is not gonna do a damn thing and it's gonna be Gainey/Gauthier all over over again.

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I have the feeling Bergevin is not gonna do a damn thing and it's gonna be Gainey/Gauthier all over over again.
Just ignore the 20 - 5 - 5 record. This is nothing like the last few regimes.

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03-23-2013, 04:27 PM
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I have the feeling Bergevin is not gonna do a damn thing and it's gonna be Gainey/Gauthier all over over again.
When the HABS had the best Hockey Teams ever 50's - 60's - 70's etc. never had a true enforcer except John Ferguson

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03-23-2013, 04:29 PM
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When the HABS had the best Hockey Teams ever 50's - 60's - 70's etc. never had a true enforcer except John Ferguson
Difference was, a lot of good players they had could bash heads. The idea of skilled guys at that time that could not defend themselves did not exist. There was no Desharnais or Gionta.

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03-23-2013, 04:30 PM
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I have the feeling Bergevin is not gonna do a damn thing and it's gonna be Gainey/Gauthier all over over again.
Yup. It is. I got a crystal ball. Says Montreal will never be physical for the next 100 years.

Sorry.

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03-23-2013, 04:31 PM
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Just ignore the 20 - 5 - 5 record. This is nothing like the last few regimes.
I remember the Habs finishing first in the East one season when Carbo was coaching.

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03-23-2013, 04:36 PM
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I remember the Habs finishing first in the East one season when Carbo was coaching.
The Carbo team was a mediocre even strength team with a ridiculously good power play that relied too much on Kovalev and Markov. Carbo was also a terrible even strength coach

The Habs this year are a well above average 5 on 5 team with mediocre special teams yet is still finding a way to win. This team doesn't have nearly the same good luck that team did.

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The Carbo team was a mediocre even strength team with a ridiculously good power play that relied too much on Kovalev and Markov. Carbo was also a terrible even strength coach

The Habs this year are a well above average 5 on 5 team with mediocre special teams yet is still finding a way to win. This team doesn't have nearly the same good luck that team did.
There are also far more injuries this year.

The 2008 team was running at 100%. It collapsed in the playoffs because Mark Streit was injured.

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03-23-2013, 04:43 PM
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Difference was, a lot of good players they had could bash heads. The idea of skilled guys at that time that could not defend themselves did not exist. There was no Desharnais or Gionta.
They had smaller gifted players then too ie. the Pocket Rocket and the Road Runner - they took their lumps so does Gio & DD etc.

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The Carbo team was a mediocre even strength team with a ridiculously good power play that relied too much on Kovalev and Markov. Carbo was also a terrible even strength coach

The Habs this year are a well above average 5 on 5 team with mediocre special teams yet is still finding a way to win. This team doesn't have nearly the same good luck that team did.
I blame the lucky tie


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There are also far more injuries this year.

The 2008 team was running at 100%. It collapsed in the playoffs because Mark Streit was injured.
The 2008 team was the only Habs team in the past few years with luck. No injuries (until the playoffs), Kovalev, Markov, Plekanec and Streit, Higgins and Kostitsyn all playing some of the best hockey of their careers. Actually everyone seemed to be "on" that year except Ryder. Well the 2010 playoff run certainly had that element, but the season leading up to it was anything but lucky.

I don't really feel that this year. We are getting injuries and inconsistency, it's just that there always seems to be someone else ready to step up. That doesn't mean we don't have work to do, it just doesn't feel like a flash in the pan.

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True Enforcers - we don't really have any - Prust will back you though and PK can send a message - Tinordi has got the tools to be a Lucic Crusher but is that really the HABS game plan anyways
With all due respect Tinordi is nowhere near ready to go against the likes of Lucic IMO.
When he's 25 or 26 and has had the time to grow into his body he might stand a chance, but right now he should stay away from that kind of stuff unless he's forced to defend himself or a teammate.

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Please, explain to us, considering how good Kassian is, why he wasnt playing before going to the Sens ?
Can you explain me why Halpern was on waivers?

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Can you explain me why Halpern was on waivers?
No-one, including Rangers fans, has been able to explain that so far.

Best guess is that the Rangers are making room under the contract limit to do something else and hence had to waive someone that they thought actually would get claimed.

That's just in case you were actually interested in a logical answer...

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03-23-2013, 05:17 PM
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No-one, including Rangers fans, has been able to explain that so far.

Best guess is that the Rangers are making room under the contract limit to do something else and hence had to waive someone that they thought actually would get claimed.

That's just in case you were actually interested in a logical answer...
so, they waived the 2 who sucked the most to make space.

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03-23-2013, 05:21 PM
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True Enforcers - we don't really have any - Prust will back you though and PK can send a message - Tinordi has got the tools to be a Lucic Crusher but is that really the HABS game plan anyways
so much fail

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03-23-2013, 05:25 PM
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If JT goes against lucic right now, might as well send him to the leafs, cause itll be Komi 2.0. He may be able to in a couple years but not now. Please. Not now.

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03-23-2013, 05:37 PM
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Would the Habs be higher or lower in the standings if we had Tom Pyatt on our team and not Brandon Prust?

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Would the Habs be higher or lower in the standings if we had Tom Pyatt on our team and not Brandon Prust?
Tom Pyatt was a superstar on this board. He was skating SO fast!

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Tom Pyatt was a superstar on this board. He was skating SO fast!
He's an unphysical version of Prust, provides good secondary scoring from the bottom 6 and eats up penalty killing minutes at a decent performance level.

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so, they waived the 2 who sucked the most to make space.
No, they did what I said

Waiving players who then clear waivers doesn't make any contract space at all.

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When the HABS had the best Hockey Teams ever 50's - 60's - 70's etc. never had a true enforcer except John Ferguson
Fergie definitely helped Montreal's smaller players but he was also a fine hockey player himself and did not hurt the team at all when he was on the ice. Some of today's enforcers can barely skate let alone know how to use their hockey stick.

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Frazer McLaren just scored on Boston, with assists from Colton Orr and Jay McClement.

McLaren is +1 with 5:41 of playing time 47 minutes into the game.

Are Orr and McLaren costing Toronto the game? No, Toronto is beating Boston 3-1.

ETA: Colton Orr defeats Shawn Thornton:



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Frazer McLaren just scored on Boston, with assists from Colton Orr and Jay McClement.

McLaren is +1 with 5:41 of playing time 47 minutes into the game.

Are Orr and McLaren costing Toronto the game? No, Toronto is beating Boston 3-1.

ETA: Colton Orr defeats Shawn Thornton:

Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn now and then

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