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03-24-2013, 02:43 AM
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This team has some glaring problems and even less depth now. Halpern was more valuable than Powe and Bickel, as well as Asham (jury is still out)
We need real bottom 6 help and guys who can play the center position on the third line. We have no chemistry whatsoever aside from our second line ( which should be our first at this point)

Hagelin-Stepan-Nash/Callahan
Kreider-Broken Beaver- Gaborik
Pyatt-Miller-Powe? Boyle ( one of the worst third lines in the NHL)
Haley-Boyle? Powe?/Asham ( horrible 4th line)

I would rather have a 37 year old Halpern than a Powe, Bickel, or Boyle

Now we see the mistakes Glen made over the summer letting our glue go.

Imagine this

Hagelin-Richards-Nash
Kreider-Stepan-Gaborik
Fedotenko-Mitchell-Prust
Pyatt-Boyle-Asham

Instead we have to rush a kid who is a turnover machine in Miller, b
Run with 2 4th line centers, 1 on the third line and one on the 4th.
Have a nursing home on the fourth line (aside from Haley)

And now we are bringing in friggin Newbury!!? All out of that glimmer of hope that he ignites Kreider's game....a disaster in the making. this is not a Mitchell/Hagelin situation, this is a 30 year old career AHLer who will never sniff a full time job in the NHL.

So even if Nash, or Gaborik does score a pretty goal on an individual move, we have a deeper underlying problem on our roster. Get well soon Glenn, we are hoping you will fix this mess in our bottom 6.

with the Rangers needing scoring they should have brought up Thomas again or for some grit recall Haley or give Yogan or Jean a look.. Newbury isnt in this teams future plans at least i hope not. he has been with the Whale for a bit now

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I find it appalling that fans are clamoring to replace an underperforming 40 goal scorer who looks to be regaining his form for depth players that could be had for little or nothing in the off season.
I for one only sell Gaborik for young players that are beyond depth that are cap friendly and make us a better team for 3-4 more years going forward . I don't feel this is a win this year team but with fresh legs and secondary and tertiary scoring next year they can perhaps contend .
Get younger , stronger , faster .
Identify a core add to it less over 30 UFA more under thirty RFA AND ELC . See what you have .
So they would just be getting Scraps or depth players but
Players with depth who play in all three zones and while no game breakers might balance your line up so the game Breakers like Nash can't be keyed on as easily and force othe teams to keep honest

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So they would just be getting Scraps or depth players but
Players with depth who play in all three zones and while no game breakers might balance your line up so the game Breakers like Nash can't be keyed on as easily and force othe teams to keep honest
What "scraps or depth players" would you trade Gaborik for who'd come even close to being worth an opposing team worrying about enough to "keep them honest"?

Unless we're getting back someone who's a top level offense threat - hey, say, someone like repeat 40-goal scorer Marian Gaborik - then no coach is going to worry about him instead of Rick Nash.

Even if you get back a younger, 20-20 version of Ryan Callahan, that does jack squat to draw defensive coverage from Nash's line.

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03-24-2013, 09:11 AM
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There is no match with SJ. Money has to go for money.

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They’ve been desperate to do something for weeks. It doesn’t really matter what: They’ll take a forward or a defenceman. They have dangled right winger Marian Gaborik to see what kind of return they can get. If they don’t make the playoffs, then coach John Tortorella is going to be in trouble.
http://www.ottawasun.com/2013/03/24/...trade-deadline

Desperate doesn't mean stupid.

Sather doesn't have the room to make a big move unless equal salary is going out.

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As I said before, I don't believe there is really any major move that is going to "right the ship" with this team at the moment.

Most of their problems are systemic in nature. The chances of of contending this year is slim imo.

So if the Rangers wish to be productive for the rest of the season:

Torts would be better off figuring out how to tweak his system and adapt a more effective transition game.

If we are going to actually be productive that is.

If they can move Gaborik for some a good package than they should do it. If it isn't good enough it won't hurt to wait for the offseason..

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Given Sathers medical issue what would Ranger fans think about a return of Maloney and change of coach to Dave Tippett for next season? Both Maloney and Tippett have contracts which expire at the end of the season. With Phoenix ownership issues they may not be renewed/want to renew.

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Given Sathers medical issue what would Ranger fans think about a return of Maloney and change of coach to Dave Tippett for next season? Both Maloney and Tippett have contracts which expire at the end of the season. With Phoenix ownership issues they may not be renewed/want to renew.
does ekman come as well?

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does ekman come as well?
You can bet Maloney would try to acquire him.

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The problem is the system and the players fear of going outside of it. A couple of games ago, Stepan Haglin, and I believe it was Callahan came in on a 3 on 2. Both defenders came over to Stepan and Haglin leaving Calllahan open in the middle. What does Stepan do, he dumps the puck in the corner. That's all the coaches fault. He has brain washed them out of being creative.

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Told the asking price for San Jose D Dan Boyle: A player who can help now and a meaningful draft pick @tpanotchCSN Carolina looking as well.
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If, however, the Sharks are willing to trade the 36-year-old Boyle, who has a year left on his six-year, $40 million contract with a whopping $6.6 million cap hit, the Flyers have interest.

Provided the price tag to acquire him is reasonable, according to an NHL source.

Boyle has a limited no-trade clause, which means there are eight teams in which Boyle would approve to be dealt to.

As CSNPhilly.com reported on Saturday, both Flyers general manager Paul Holmgren and hockey operations director Chris Pryor, were scouting the Sharks in Minnesota this weekend and are interested in 5-foot-10 Boyle beyond this season.
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There is no match with SJ. Money has to go for money.



http://www.ottawasun.com/2013/03/24/...trade-deadline

Desperate doesn't mean stupid.

Sather doesn't have the room to make a big move unless equal salary is going out.
only thing that works is a 3 way deal with Boyle to NYR, Gaborik to a 3rd team and SJ getting others.

I would not do Boyle for Gabby.......I would add B.Boyle and Stralman to a package as long as the Rangers get back a top 6 winger and a bottom 6

So if the NYR give up Gabby, Stralman, Boyle and get back D.Boyle, top 6, bottom 6 somehow, sure

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only thing that works is a 3 way deal with Boyle to NYR, Gaborik to a 3rd team and SJ getting others.

I would not do Boyle for Gabby.......I would add B.Boyle and Stralman to a package as long as the Rangers get back a top 6 winger and a bottom 6

So if the NYR give up Gabby, Stralman, Boyle and get back D.Boyle, top 6, bottom 6 somehow, sure
thats an awful deal unless couture is the top 6 and clowe is the bottom 6

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thats an awful deal unless couture is the top 6 and clowe is the bottom 6
we are both not the GM and it seems obvious they want Boyle. So what would they give up? It would have to include moving the Gabby contact

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If, however, the Sharks are willing to trade the 36-year-old Boyle, who has a year left on his six-year, $40 million contract with a whopping $6.6 million cap hit, the Flyers have interest.

Provided the price tag to acquire him is reasonable, according to an NHL source.

Boyle has a limited no-trade clause, which means there are eight teams in which Boyle would approve to be dealt to.

As CSNPhilly.com reported on Saturday, both Flyers general manager Paul Holmgren and hockey operations director Chris Pryor, were scouting the Sharks in Minnesota this weekend and are interested in 5-foot-10 Boyle beyond this season.
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Please god......stop looking at 35+ year old players to try and come here and "help" our Rangers teams. Dont go back to trading away our youth in an attempt to make an "impact" now. Losing Dubinsky, Anisimov, Prust, Feds and Mittchell hurt us more than anybody expected. Sather did a sh-t job replacing them, so, with any aquisition this season.......we are by no means becoming a stanley cup contender. Play this season out and re-tool during the summer.

End of story.

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Yes, Jean prob. needs more seasoning
yeah it prob means those players are no where near ready for NHL action.. everyone needs to relax with this system crap.. how is it a defensive system when DZ was basically playing rover the past 3 games and joining the rush.. torts is a good coach.. if richards and gabs were producing we wouldnt even be in this discussion.. when top six guys arent producing it exposes the rest of the flaws in the team..

cut the ****! he's elevated the play of stepan, hags, cally, mcd, mdz, staal and other guys.. everyone looks at the negative when we're loosing but look at the positives and its the players jobs especially when your a vet like gab or richards to have accountability.. there are no simple fixes.. its straight gut check time..

it all starts and ends with the players.. and torts hasnt lost the room.. the guys know what they have to do and its up to them.. as some poster mentioned this teams success begins and ends with richards.. richards cant be 5-6th in points on his team for us to do well..

and stop trading away young players.. we will never win in a cap league if we dont keep our young guys.. we need to build a team.. the nash trade has to be done 10/10 times bc good players dont come available to offten like that.. but dubi, aa, feds, prust are missed and slats screwed the pooch by signing/trading for these players that arent worth a damn in our system in pyatt, asham, powe, and counting on rookie kreider to step in from the get go and make an impact..

we just need to rebuild bottom 6.. we have the pieces in too good players moving forward with boyle 4c and miller 3c, and kreider, but add toughness and grit and we're set.. trading players like gab wont help it will hurt..bc your not getting the package and players that we need..


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Iginla list

Bruins
Penguins
Kings
Blackhawks

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Jarome Iginla file will grow in the coming days and according to the latest information, the Flames captain has submitted a list of teams he would agree to be traded.

The Bruins, Penguins, Kings and Blackhawks are courses listed by Iginla.

Flames obviously do not want to let go for a song and Iginla them seeking an established player in return and a draft pick of the first round.

This folder is for emotional and Flames Jarome Iginla, but for the sake of the future of the organization, a change seems necessary to allow Flames recover.
http://translate.google.com/translat...56546%2Fpublic

Iginla doesn't want to be a rental player. The Hotstove panel was discussing that last night. Does Iginla want a contract extension as part of the trade?

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Iginla list

Bruins
Penguins
Kings
Blackhawks



http://translate.google.com/translat...56546%2Fpublic

Iginla doesn't want to be a rental player. The Hotstove panel was discussing that last night. Does Iginla want a contract extension as part of the trade?
There may be some important news here if this outfit is legit.
Correct me If I am wrong, but I don't think the presence of the list was ever confirmed.
On March 19th, On TSN, McKenzie talked about Iginla
-Rumors that Iginla has given Calgary a list of 3 teams (PIT, DET, VAN), another says it's a 5 Team List (Including BOS, LAK). McKenzie says he cannot confirm that a list has been presented.
So Wings and Nucks are out and Hawks are in?

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the funny thing about the flames is everyone thought they were rebuilding when they made that mega trade with Toronto with Phaneuf.. its sad iginla stayed as long as he did bc they did a poor job rebuilding and now theyre trying round two and its a joke..

they are a mismatch of players that half we're signed via FA.. most of the fans on here are looking for drastic measures and thats not the answer..

look at the teams that won the championship the past few years..

most are homegrown, added a few UFA and struggled before they won it all.. everyone should be patient.. minor tweaks is what is all about.. and its on slats for not signing the appropriate players to help contribute to our core and top guys..

i dont want to turn into them or SJ by makig crazy trades..

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Renaud Lavoie is credible. Iginla wants to be traded to a Cup contender. Not a team on the fringes of the Cup.

http://www.cbc.ca/player/XBOX/Hockey...ID/2356886661/

Its a very small list. Like Nash.

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One note to pass along during my travel day: hearing Boston no longer has interest in #SJSharks Ryane Clowe.
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Wonder why? Injuries. Production.

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Source say the Pens and Stars have a trade in place for Brendan Morrow. However, he has yet to waive no trade clause.
https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/sta...17917311102977

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I believe Joe Morrow would go to Dallas as part of the deal for Brendan Morrow.
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Steep price.

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The Penguins definately need more offense!

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Pitt has a million D but B.Morrow doesn't much left in the tank.

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