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The Process of Trading Jarome Iginla Has Begun - Part 2

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03-24-2013, 06:17 PM
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Getting excited to see what we get for Iginla (so long as Feaster doesn't botch it).
I'm not as worried. Feaster won't be the one running the show here - we all know ownership and King have had their hands in the Flames affairs over the last little while. This is a monumental process for the Flames organization; they're not about to let Feaster do as he pleases. Any deal will involve consultations at the very least from the higher ups.

The biggest concern would be the lack of a genuine hockey mind there. King is a newspaper guy, Edwards a business man, and Feaster a lawyer. Weisbrod and Goulet should hopefully have a lot of influence in what goes on.

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I'm not as worried. Feaster won't be the one running the show here - we all know ownership and King have had their hands in the Flames affairs over the last little while. This is a monumental process for the Flames organization; they're not about to let Feaster do as he pleases. Any deal will involve consultations at the very least from the higher ups.

The biggest concern would be the lack of a genuine hockey mind there. King is a newspaper guy, Edwards a business man, and Feaster a lawyer. Weisbrod and Goulet should hopefully have a lot of influence in what goes on.
Feaster has been silent since the ROR offer sheet. Anybody who has been around the Calgary oil business knows that Edwards doesn't have much patience for screwups (which is ironic given where our organization is at right now). Feaster might be the mouthpiece of the management team but I really do think this will be Weisbrod's call in terms of players.

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Iginla is one of my favorite players, i hope he doesn't get traded to the Bruins.

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Feaster has been silent since the ROR offer sheet. Anybody who has been around the Calgary oil business knows that Edwards doesn't have much patience for screwups (which is ironic given where our organization is at right now). Feaster might be the mouthpiece of the management team but I really do think this will be Weisbrod's call in terms of players.
Those were my thoughts as well. Feaster's time as the GM of the Flames is all but over. He'll be the face at the deadline, but I expect shortly after the regular seasons ends, he's let go. And it would be much deserved.

Hopefully Weisbrod goes for the best players offered or that he can get.

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Iginla is one of my favorite players, i hope he doesn't get traded to the Bruins.
The Bruins are an Iginla team. They hit, they fight, they play like Iginla and they will help him win.

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I'm not as worried. Feaster won't be the one running the show here - we all know ownership and King have had their hands in the Flames affairs over the last little while. This is a monumental process for the Flames organization; they're not about to let Feaster do as he pleases. Any deal will involve consultations at the very least from the higher ups.

The biggest concern would be the lack of a genuine hockey mind there. King is a newspaper guy, Edwards a business man, and Feaster a lawyer. Weisbrod and Goulet should hopefully have a lot of influence in what goes on.
Agreed I hope Weisbrod has the final call on any trades this season...

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Agreed I hope Weisbrod has the final call on any trades this season...
I honestly don't know too much about Weisbrod. Is he a good GM? Or is Feaster just a bad GM?

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The Bruins are an Iginla team. They hit, they fight, they play like Iginla and they will help him win.
Yup, still hope he doesn't go there! I prefer he stays out west.

Here's hoping LA or CHI offer the better packages for Iggy.

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I don't expect him to be traded if the teams he OKed a trade to are Pit, Van, Det, LA, and Bos...

I read somewhere that he doesn't want to be a rental player, he'll probably get a Doan like deal next season ($5m to $5.5m per season over 4 seasons), and the price is going to be way too much...

Pit: Out if Morrow for Morrow deal goes through;
Van: Cap issues...even if/when they trade or amnesty Luongo, they have cap issues;
Det: With or without him, they aren't a serious Cup contender...also have no clue what they have of value that is worth giving up;
LA: They need defense more than offense in the short and long term with the iinjuries and age of Mitchell and Greene;
Bos: They are going to run into cap issues...

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http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=419005

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Sources have told TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger that Iginla submitted a list of four teams he would approve a trade to: the Pittsburgh Penguins, Boston Bruins, Chicago Blackhawks and Los Angeles Kings.
DET not on the list YAY!

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I honestly don't know too much about Weisbrod. Is he a good GM? Or is Feaster just a bad GM?
Hes the "Assistant General Manager" sound familiar too you?

He is more of a "hockey guy" than Feaster...I dont think either is bad, Feaster is great at the signing and salary management aspect, but he has made some deft trades so far.

I think Weisbrod was brought in to help remedy that issue.

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Can someone explain to me why Pittsburgh is out now that we traded for Morrow?

I THINK we could slot Iginla in somewhere...

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Can someone explain to me why Pittsburgh is out now that we traded for Morrow?

I THINK we could slot Iginla in somewhere...
That's what I have been saying.
If PIT thinks this is the year. Might as well go for it all.

BOS might over pay to stop that from happening though

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Can someone explain to me why Pittsburgh is out now that we traded for Morrow?

I THINK we could slot Iginla in somewhere...
You could but:

1. It will cost you more now, because you overpayed for Morrow, Feaster will want a similar overpayment.

2. I think this was Shero's way of saying "we aren't willing to pay what you are asking for".

Just my take.

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Hes the "Assistant General Manager" sound familiar too you?

He is more of a "hockey guy" than Feaster...I dont think either is bad, Feaster is great at the signing and salary management aspect, but he has made some deft trades so far.

I think Weisbrod was brought in to help remedy that issue.
He was the player personnel guy in Boston that had a hand in building that team according to Chiarelli (who knows if he was just talkign up an old colleague).

There's an interview from last summer with Feaster talking about how he's not a 'hockey guy' and that he tries to lean on Goulet and Weisbrod as much as possible to formulate opinions. Management by committee.

I just think after the ROR fiasco (and especially given how big a trade this is for the franchise) that this stuff will run through Weisbrod and the guys upstairs.

They might still screw this up but I feel better knowing that this isn't going to be a Phaneuf-esque scenario in terms of how the deal is being conducted.

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You could but:

1. It will cost you more now, because you overpayed for Morrow, Feaster will want a similar overpayment.

2. I think this was Shero's way of saying "we aren't willing to pay what you are asking for".

Just my take.
This also make sense. For CAL sake I hope PIT is interested. CAL fans really deserves a good re-build

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I don't expect him to be traded if the teams he OKed a trade to are Pit, Van, Det, LA, and Bos...

I read somewhere that he doesn't want to be a rental player, he'll probably get a Doan like deal next season ($5m to $5.5m per season over 4 seasons), and the price is going to be way too much...
Do people really think he's going to get five a mil a year going forward? I'm just asking honestly.

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He was the player personnel guy in Boston that had a hand in building that team according to Chiarelli (who knows if he was just talkign up an old colleague).

There's an interview from last summer with Feaster talking about how he's not a 'hockey guy' and that he tries to lean on Goulet and Weisbrod as much as possible to formulate opinions. Management by committee.

I just think after the ROR fiasco (and especially given how big a trade this is for the franchise) that this stuff will run through Weisbrod and the guys upstairs.

They might still screw this up but I feel better knowing that this isn't going to be a Phaneuf-esque scenario in terms of how the deal is being conducted.
Agreed. Having more than one "head" in on this deal is a good idea, considering how significant it will be for the franchise.

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Do people really think he's going to get five a mil a year going forward? I'm just asking honestly.
Somewhere around there, yes.

For reference, Brian Rolston signed a 4yrs/20M deal at the age of 35 from the Devils in a much lower cap. Iginla will easily get ~5M for a two or three year deal.

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Do people really think he's going to get five a mil a year going forward? I'm just asking honestly.
He will still be a 60-70, 30 goal scorer.

5 Million for him is just about right...

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Iginla is one of the best conditioned players in the NHL. If he sticks to his regimen, he could be very effective when he's older like Selanne.

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He is more of a "hockey guy" than Feaster...I dont think either is bad, Feaster is great at the signing and salary management aspect,\.
yeah...what's so great if you have to trade a high pick to save salary?

The problem with the Flames is there long before Feaster showed up though. I dont think it can be fixed because that involved getting rid of the people above him as well.

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He will still be a 60-70, 30 goal scorer.

5 Million for him is just about right...
Agreed. It sounds like Nathan Horton territory for me as a Bruins fan. Were it to be a 3 year deal they'd consider I think. I'd rather have Iggy at 5 mil a year for 3 years or four if needs be than have to pay 5.5 or 6 for Nathan Horton for five years. He's been so hot and cold at times they've missed his scoring with the streakiness

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That's what I have been saying.
If PIT thinks this is the year. Might as well go for it all.

BOS might over pay to stop that from happening though
True, but Pit isn't going to have much left in the way of defensive prospects if they do trade for Iginla as well. Maatta/Pouliot + 1st would only be a starting point if we're looking at the Morrow trade as a comparison.

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Iginla for Toffoli straight up. Boom.

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