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03-24-2013, 05:47 PM
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Why should they? They make more money being Pay-TV-only. I don't watch that much TV, so what I can get OTA is sufficient for me, and I don't bother with cable or Fibe. The last CFL game I watched at home was the 2007 Grey Cup. However, the cable deal is lucrative enough that my lost viewership doesn't matter. Between TSN and RSN (their French language version) they get a ton of viewers. E.g. for the most recent Grey Cup (2012) http://ctvmedia.ca/tsn/releases/rele...5871&yyyy=2012
Putting the Grey Cup on CTV would probably net them a few extra hundred thousand viewers meaning more advertising revenue in the future.

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03-24-2013, 07:56 PM
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CFL needs to return to CBC yesterday.

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03-24-2013, 08:03 PM
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CFL needs to return to CBC yesterday.
Ew. CBC was why they were on their death bed. TSN is the ESPN of Canada. They can generate hype like no other sports network in Canada can. Plus the CFL wants to attract more young viewers. CBC is not the way to do that. People reluctantly turn on CBC for HNiC, but aside from that, most youth would never flip the channel to CBC.

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Putting the Grey Cup on CTV would probably net them a few extra hundred thousand viewers meaning more advertising revenue in the future.
TSN, with their Pay-TV subscription revenues, can offer more money than an OTA broadcast contract.

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Ew. CBC was why they were on their death bed. TSN is the ESPN of Canada. They can generate hype like no other sports network in Canada can. Plus the CFL wants to attract more young viewers. CBC is not the way to do that. People reluctantly turn on CBC for HNiC, but aside from that, most youth would never flip the channel to CBC.
Yep, CBC just did not devote the time to the CFL the way TSN has. A consistent CFL panel with good hosts, proper pre-game shows, and great coverage daily on Sportscentre s are just things the CBC had no chance of doing.


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03-25-2013, 08:44 AM
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Ew. CBC was why they were on their death bed. TSN is the ESPN of Canada. They can generate hype like no other sports network in Canada can. Plus the CFL wants to attract more young viewers. CBC is not the way to do that. People reluctantly turn on CBC for HNiC, but aside from that, most youth would never flip the channel to CBC.


I don't "reluctantly" turn on CBC for anything: I reluctantly turn on TSN to watch their B-grade hockey broadcasts that come nowhere near CBC's. No one generates hypes like HNiC: They're what TSN aspires to be.

Yes, I'd much rather watch ESPN-North spend 7 hours slobbering on the Buds and their trading of Dave Steckel for Ryan Lasch and a seventh-round pick.

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03-25-2013, 10:51 AM
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I don't "reluctantly" turn on CBC for anything: I reluctantly turn on TSN to watch their B-grade hockey broadcasts that come nowhere near CBC's. No one generates hypes like HNiC: They're what TSN aspires to be.
Watch a non-leafs game and you'll see CBC is the worst. I find TSN to be okay, much better since Pierre moved, their intermissions MUCH better than CBC. Sportsnet does an great job play-by-play (minus Denis on the sens broadcast - shutup Denis and let the other do his job!) but find the intermissions to be boring. As for hype, TSN hands down.

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Watch a non-leafs game and you'll see CBC is the worst. I find TSN to be okay, much better since Pierre moved, their intermissions MUCH better than CBC. Sportsnet does an great job play-by-play (minus Denis on the sens broadcast - shutup Denis and let the other do his job!) but find the intermissions to be boring. As for hype, TSN hands down.
I only watch non-Leafs games on CBC. The Oilers, Canucks and Jets games look awesome on CBC.

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03-25-2013, 05:10 PM
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I only watch non-Leafs games on CBC. The Oilers, Canucks and Jets games look awesome on CBC.
Canucks have perhaps the most biased announcer on TV today on CBC (and I am including home broadcasters), probably helps them. Makes games all but unwatchable for non Canuck fans however.

Jets broadcasts are absolute **** on CBC. a) We don't get the HD truck. CBC only has 3, and they never ever comes to Winnipeg, since 1 is in Toronto, 1 goes Ottawa to Montreal and other only travels EDM-CGY-VAN. b)We always get their "D" announcers, and their "A" crew over there is absolute garbage nowadays, nevermind their "D" crew. c)We get screwed hard with start times. 6pm on Fridays! People work. 2pm on Saturdays, we do not have ONE single Saturday night start in Winnipeg. For stupid CBC.

Not too mention they have an ignorant old man that has zero clue about the game of hockey first intermission, the worst music ever for pregame music (seriously who chooses that stuff), and overall just boring broadcasts.

I really hope CBC loses hockey altogether.

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Canucks have perhaps the most biased announcer on TV today on CBC (and I am including home broadcasters), probably helps them. Makes games all but unwatchable for non Canuck fans however.
Hughson is the bomb and I'm no Canucks fan.

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Jets broadcasts are absolute **** on CBC. a) We don't get the HD truck. CBC only has 3, and they never ever comes to Winnipeg, since 1 is in Toronto, 1 goes Ottawa to Montreal and other only travels EDM-CGY-VAN. b)We always get their "D" announcers, and their "A" crew over there is absolute garbage nowadays, nevermind their "D" crew.
I enjoy listening to Mark Lee; he's better than 90 per cent of the league, imo.

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c)We get screwed hard with start times. 6pm on Fridays! People work. 2pm on Saturdays, we do not have ONE single Saturday night start in Winnipeg. For stupid CBC.
They've ensured my viewership by doing this (though I'd prefer a later start too): I literally have nothing else to watch on Friday nights.

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Not too mention they have an ignorant old man that has zero clue about the game of hockey first intermission, the worst music ever for pregame music (seriously who chooses that stuff), and overall just boring broadcasts.

I really hope CBC loses hockey altogether.
Cherry is lolz.

I agree with you about the music; I really wish they'd just bust out the Stompin' Tom.

I really don't get what you find boring about their broadcasts: Their great production values? The lolzy Grapes? The best journalist in the game(save for maybe Brunt)?
Their intros that actually draw the viewer in?

No, I'd much rather watch "The Quiz": That really draws my attention.

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03-25-2013, 09:21 PM
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Jets broadcasts are absolute **** on CBC. a) We don't get the HD truck. CBC only has 3, and they never ever comes to Winnipeg, since 1 is in Toronto, 1 goes Ottawa to Montreal and other only travels EDM-CGY-VAN. b)We always get their "D" announcers, and their "A" crew over there is absolute garbage nowadays, nevermind their "D" crew. c)We get screwed hard with start times. 6pm on Fridays! People work. 2pm on Saturdays, we do not have ONE single Saturday night start in Winnipeg. For stupid CBC.

Not too mention they have an ignorant old man that has zero clue about the game of hockey first intermission, the worst music ever for pregame music (seriously who chooses that stuff), and overall just boring broadcasts.

I really hope CBC loses hockey altogether.

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to be fair winnipeg, ottawa got that treatment for about a decade when they only had 2 trucks... one for montreal/toronto, one for west.

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I hope that CBC looses all NHL rights soon, I live in Manitoba, every Saturday night guess who we get, the Leafs, of course I don't watch but hell, there are more Habs fans in Canada than Leafs fans but thats all we get, why? Because the habs viewers are split on 2 networks, CBC and RDS(french), if you combine both networks the habs always outdraw the Leafs but because the CBC ratings are only for their channel we get the Leafs, ugh.

TSN is excellent for CFL broadcasts, they show every game whereas CBC maybe showed 1/2? CFL is booming in Canada and I'm glad their tv money has increased, would rather watch CFL anyday over the all-hype league NFL.

That is all.

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I hope that CBC looses all NHL rights soon, I live in Manitoba, every Saturday night guess who we get, the Leafs, of course I don't watch but hell, there are more Habs fans in Canada than Leafs fans but thats all we get, why? Because the habs viewers are split on 2 networks, CBC and RDS(french), if you combine both networks the habs always outdraw the Leafs but because the CBC ratings are only for their channel we get the Leafs, ugh.

TSN is excellent for CFL broadcasts, they show every game whereas CBC maybe showed 1/2? CFL is booming in Canada and I'm glad their tv money has increased, would rather watch CFL anyday over the all-hype league NFL.

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i don't know if there are more Leafs or Habs fans

but the majority of habs fans live in Quebec and watch the french RDS channel

approximately 8 million french people

there is no benefit for CBC to show Habs games nationaly unless the Leafs aren't playing

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Not a CFL fan, figure I will give it a shot once Ottawa comes back again.

If TSN has all the games, can I expect a few not to be televised at all?

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i don't know if there are more Leafs or Habs fans

but the majority of habs fans live in Quebec and watch the french RDS channel

approximately 8 million french people

there is no benefit for CBC to show Habs games nationaly unless the Leafs aren't playing
There was a study posted about a year ago that showed the Habs are bigger than the Leafs in every province but Ontario I believe.

It was actually pretty surprising, their fanbase is quite a bit larger.

The biggest problem with CBCs model is that by only showing one team, they really limit their potential for growth. Show them all equally. Build fans for other teams. When they do this, they wont get screwed on nights that the Leafs dont play, or when they dont make the playoffs for nearly a decade.

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CFL needs to return to CBC yesterday.
So we can have games not televised during the first half of the season again?

TSN saved the league.

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Not a CFL fan, figure I will give it a shot once Ottawa comes back again.

If TSN has all the games, can I expect a few not to be televised at all?
TSN will televise every single CFL game. And all in HD.

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Good news for the CFL. Seems like the league has been as succesful as it's ever been since TSN got exclusive rights.

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GREAT NEWS, Proud of the CFL for getting to where there are now. This is what happens when you get a real commish . note to NHL

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It is really impressive to see what the CFL has become. Having grown up in the 90's, when the league looked to be on its death bed, with its ludicrous American expansion, the CFL was a joke a league (and lost a generation of fans in the process), its great to see it doing so well.

And with all the new stadiums, things are only looking up.


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Any word on availability in the US?

Last season the CFL started out on ESPN3, which my ISP blocks.

In July and August, I'd rather watch a CFL game that counts than an NFL preseason game where the entire second half is played by the third to nineteenth stringers.

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Any word on availability in the US?

Last season the CFL started out on ESPN3, which my ISP blocks.

In July and August, I'd rather watch a CFL game that counts than an NFL preseason game where the entire second half is played by the third to nineteenth stringers.
When I was in the States last July there was CFL games live on the NFL network- not sure how much they show though.

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Any word on availability in the US?

Last season the CFL started out on ESPN3, which my ISP blocks.
No they do not. ESPN3 blocks your ISP. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN3
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Some ISPs have complained to the FCC that ESPN3 violates the principles of network neutrality. ESPN3 bundles its content into the fees of the participating ISP, regardless of whether or not users partake in accessing its content. If a particular ISP does not pay subscription fees to ESPN, users of that ISP are blocked from accessing ESPN3. There is no way for individual users to overcome these access restrictions as ESPN3 does not provide subscription options for individual users or any other non-ISP entities.
ESPN3 treats ISPs like cable systems. Either all subscribers get the service, and the ISP pays for it, or none of the ISP's subscribers. This is entirely different from NHL Gamecentre Live, where individuals can subscribe, regardless of ISP.

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