HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Boston Bruins
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

2013 League Rumors/Trades/Signings Discussion III

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
03-25-2013, 06:42 AM
  #1001
DKH
Registered User
 
DKH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 31,042
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to DKH
Quote:
Originally Posted by ODAAT View Post
I`ll believe it when I see it (Iggy moving), I have less confidence in Feaster accepting the Flames won`t make the playoffs than Iggy accepting a move somewhere.

Would Iggy be a fit on the Bruins?? Yep, but he`ll cost a price, and it will be much higher than the one the Penguins paid for Morrow who`s a guy who is not close to having the game he had. I don`t want to see the Bruins hand the farm over for Iggy but....... I`d give up a 1st rounder/Krug and a Caron to get him, like Morrow, Iggy`s game isn`t as relevant as it once was, nor has his game fallen as much as Morrow`s either

The Flames, totally guessing will be asking for a 1st, Spooner and a Krug/Caron, switch Koko with Spooner and I`m in
This place had become Las Vegas meets Disney

DKH is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 06:48 AM
  #1002
SpokedLightning
Overpaid 4th Liner
 
SpokedLightning's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Tampa
Country: United States
Posts: 6,790
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by DKH View Post
This place had become Las Vegas meets Disney
It is entertaining reading though.

SpokedLightning is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 06:54 AM
  #1003
Kaoz*
Ima Krejciist.
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Nova Scotia
Country: Canada
Posts: 28,635
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by thegodfather View Post
But why does it have to be a UFA or prospect...

Who's to say it's not Seguin.

With the salary cap coming down, work will have to be done with the current Bruins lineup to get this team closer to the cap next year.
Seguin's already the best right wing we have. He can't be the second best as well. And the 3rd, and the 4th, and the 5th.

Kaoz* is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 06:56 AM
  #1004
TCL40
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 20,278
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ODAAT View Post
bye bye Horty if so
I am fine with this.

Horton was already a streaky player, with a lot of talent when we got him, now he is worse than streaky and his talent seems to have disappeared since his concussions. About the only thing left behind is the streaky part.

Whether the team picks up Iginla or not, I am to the point where I hope they do not re-sign Horton and look for some other sniper type winger.

TCL40 is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 06:59 AM
  #1005
Fenian24
Registered User
 
Fenian24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,665
vCash: 500
Before Chiarelli took over, the Bruins last really good team was the 2001-2002 team that led the eastern conference in points but lost to the Canadiens in the first round. Even when they were up 3 games to 1 I said the slow defense would do them in, they needed at least one fast defenseman to offset molasses Gill if nothing else.
These are the defensemen that moved, as well as a couple scorers that may have helped the cause:

Tom Poti
Darius Kasparaitis
Jaro Spacek
Pavel Bure

Draft picks and prospects were the major piece in these deals going back to the other teams.
Here is a list of the Bruins top prospects from that year:

Lee Goren
Jay Henderson
Andy Hilbert
Cameron Mann
Kyle Wanvig
Nick Boynton
Jonathan Girard
Martin Grenier

Boynton had a nice career, Girard could have been special but tell me you wouldn't have traded the whole list for a better shot at a cup.

Don't overrate the Spooners, Knights, Subbans etc for a "rent a player" who can win you another cup, even if the current group pans out and has some legit NHLers in it they don't equal another championship.
The Bruins have a chance this year, with only Pittsburgh in the east looking like a better team and the Sabres having their number, to make another final and win another cup, I would rather have that then ten years of getting bounced in the second round with Spooner, Knight and Subban

Fenian24 is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 07:00 AM
  #1006
ranold26
Registered Loser
 
ranold26's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: 127.0.0.1
Country: Canada
Posts: 17,733
vCash: 500
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...ticle10275932/

Get ready for the rumors to fly off the handle

ranold26 is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 07:01 AM
  #1007
cat400
Registered User
 
cat400's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,314
vCash: 500
ON Sportsnet's Flames Game last night John Shannon wondered whether Iggy had lost a step and his goal-scoring hands (that was before he scored in the 3rd).

Doug MacLean was excited that Iggy was finally going to get a centre to complement his talent.

cat400 is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 07:02 AM
  #1008
Alicat
City of Champions!
 
Alicat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Titletown
Country: United States
Posts: 24,082
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ranold26 View Post
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...ticle10275932/

Get ready for the rumors to fly off the handle
So glad I have a busy day today to stay distracted lol.

__________________
The Butler did it. In the end zone. With a pick!

I am Boston Strong
6.15.11
4.15.13

Alicat is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 07:03 AM
  #1009
Kaoz*
Ima Krejciist.
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Nova Scotia
Country: Canada
Posts: 28,635
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ranold26 View Post
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...ticle10275932/

Get ready for the rumors to fly off the handle
Feaster will want a kings ransome... wouldn't be surprised to see Iginla stay in Calgary and walk in the summer as a FA.

What a **** show Calgary is.

Kaoz* is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 07:05 AM
  #1010
SpokedLightning
Overpaid 4th Liner
 
SpokedLightning's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Tampa
Country: United States
Posts: 6,790
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaoz View Post
Feaster will want a kings ransome... wouldn't be surprised to see Iginla stay in Calgary and walk in the summer as a FA.

What a **** show Calgary is.
If I "had" to make a bet this would be my wager.

SpokedLightning is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 07:07 AM
  #1011
Fire Julien
Registered User
 
Fire Julien's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Bergen
Country: Norway
Posts: 19,938
vCash: 500
Malcolm Subban
Jared Knight
Johnny Boychuk
Jordan Caron
2013 1st
2014 1st

for

Jerome Iginla
Jay Bouwmeester
2013 2nd
2014 2nd

Fire Julien is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 07:13 AM
  #1012
ODAAT
Registered User
 
ODAAT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Halifax
Country: Canada
Posts: 31,258
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by DKH View Post
This place had become Las Vegas meets Disney
DisVegas

I see Iggy heading to LaLa land myself

ODAAT is online now  
Old
03-25-2013, 07:14 AM
  #1013
5Minutes4Fighting
Killer B's!
 
5Minutes4Fighting's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Northern NJ
Country: United States
Posts: 990
vCash: 500
I don't understand how anyone gives up a # 1 in a deal for a rental unless they sign an extension as part of the deal....especially for a guy on the back end of his career.

5Minutes4Fighting is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 07:15 AM
  #1014
ODAAT
Registered User
 
ODAAT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Halifax
Country: Canada
Posts: 31,258
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TCL40 View Post
I am fine with this.

Horton was already a streaky player, with a lot of talent when we got him, now he is worse than streaky and his talent seems to have disappeared since his concussions. About the only thing left behind is the streaky part.

Whether the team picks up Iginla or not, I am to the point where I hope they do not re-sign Horton and look for some other sniper type winger.
Streaky I can accept, disinterest, or at least the appearance of, not so much. Tis what I have said about DK but much less so this year and no reason for me to give a free pass to anyone else if I won`t to DK.

30 games in, if Horty isn`t comfortable by now.....

ODAAT is online now  
Old
03-25-2013, 07:15 AM
  #1015
Kaoz*
Ima Krejciist.
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Nova Scotia
Country: Canada
Posts: 28,635
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ODAAT View Post
DisVegas

I see Iggy heading to LaLa land myself
Problem with LA is that they're in Calgary's division next year. I doubt LA wants to bolster Calgarys future with guys like Bernier and Toffoli, and I doubt Calgary wants to send their franchise player to a place he may resign in and whom they'd see rather consistently over the next few years.

Kaoz* is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 07:16 AM
  #1016
ODAAT
Registered User
 
ODAAT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Halifax
Country: Canada
Posts: 31,258
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaoz View Post
Problem with LA is that they're in Calgary's division next year. I doubt LA wants to bolster Calgarys future with guys like Bernier and Toffoli, and I doubt Calgary wants to send their franchise player to a place he may resign in and whom they'd see rather consistently over the next few years.
So, I know your not a fan of proposing things, if you were however a betting man, what do you believe Feaster would ask for Iggy from Chia, and what would you say Chia is willing to part with?

ODAAT is online now  
Old
03-25-2013, 07:16 AM
  #1017
Ruzicka38
Oh man
 
Ruzicka38's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hopedale
Country: United States
Posts: 1,724
vCash: 500
Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't want Iginla. There are two reason: the first is that I don't want to give up Spooner and the second is that the Bruins are not going to win the cup this year.
Look at their defensive depth. Look at their play in pressure situations (3rd periods). Look at Rask in the post-season (this will get the LF to lynch me). Look at their abysmal scoring. Iginla is not enough to fix ALL of these. Iginla is his prime probably would not have been enough to make this team a champion. They need a minor shakeup in the off-season and they need to fix the holes I mentioned above.

/rant

Ruzicka38 is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 07:17 AM
  #1018
JoeIsAStud
HFBoards Sponsor
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 5,456
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Caballo Blanco View Post
Malcolm Subban
Jared Knight
Johnny Boychuk
Jordan Caron
2013 1st
2014 1st

for

Jerome Iginla
Jay Bouwmeester
2013 2nd
2014 2nd
Can we get a 75 million dollar salary cap next year as part of the deal?

JoeIsAStud is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 07:18 AM
  #1019
cat400
Registered User
 
cat400's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,314
vCash: 500
Eric Francis who covers the Flames has his take on trading Iginla.

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/03/24...of-flames-team

"With Iginla’s contract set to expire July 1 — his 36th birthday — the general belief is Iginla will fetch at least a late first-round draft pick and a prospect as a rental player. However, with at least three of the teams on his list extremely keen to add the future hall of famer in the next nine days, the competition could spur a club to cough up a top-nine forward, as well, if not a conditional pick should Iginla choose to re-sign with his new team."

cat400 is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 07:24 AM
  #1020
ODAAT
Registered User
 
ODAAT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Halifax
Country: Canada
Posts: 31,258
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by cat400 View Post
Eric Francis who covers the Flames has his take on trading Iginla.

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/03/24...of-flames-team

"With Iginla’s contract set to expire July 1 — his 36th birthday — the general belief is Iginla will fetch at least a late first-round draft pick and a prospect as a rental player. However, with at least three of the teams on his list extremely keen to add the future hall of famer in the next nine days, the competition could spur a club to cough up a top-nine forward, as well, if not a conditional pick should Iginla choose to re-sign with his new team."
OOOH, I`ll play

1st/Caron and Krug I`ll wager

Be happy to give them the 1st pick, Whitfield and Pandolfo though

ODAAT is online now  
Old
03-25-2013, 07:24 AM
  #1021
Taz#24
Registered User
 
Taz#24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Washington DC
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,843
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to Taz#24
I'm guessing...

Quote:
Originally Posted by DKH View Post
This place had become Las Vegas meets Disney
It will take SPOONER, SUBBAN and a 1st to get IGINLA. If that's the case I think it's too much future for a stretch-run/playoff rental no matter how legendary he is.

The only way I would consider a deal of this nature is if FEASTER allows PC to negotiate an extension (2 years) prior to any deal and even then I would want Leland IRVING and Brian MCGRATTAN added to the deal. IRVING for depth in goal and take some sting off of losing SUBBAN, MCGRATTAN because teams are starting to beat us at our thing, team toughness. THORNTON is still a gamer and a very good fighter but he's not a spring chicken, CHARA shouldn't be fighting because he's typically our best D, LUCIC is playing less then inspired of late and MCQUAID is a middle-weight who can hold his own with the heavy's but his presence doesn't keep them honest. If PC does negotiate a new contract for IGINLA, HORTON's gone after this season. Maybe PC can even try and sub HORTON for a prospect in an IGINLA deal and allow Feaster to do the same (negotiate an extension with HORTON prior to a deal). At the risk of breaking up the LUCIC/HORTON bromance, something like SPOONER or SUBBAN, HORTON and a 1st for IGINLA, IRVING and MCGRATTAN.

MARCHAND-BERGERON-SEGUIN
LUCIC-KREJCI-IGINLA
For now...PAILLE-PEVERLEY-CARON
MCGRATTAN/PANDOLFO-CAMPBELL-THORNTON

With KELLY
MARCHAND-BERGERON-SEGUIN
LUCIC-KREJCI-IGINLA
CARON-KELLY_PEVERLEY
PAILLE-CAMPBELL-THORNTON
Depth-MCGRATTAN/PANDOLFO.

CHARA-BOYCHUK
SEIDENBERG-HAMILTON
FERENCE-MCQUAID
JOHNSON

RASK
KHUDOBIN

Taz#24 is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 07:25 AM
  #1022
Kaoz*
Ima Krejciist.
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Nova Scotia
Country: Canada
Posts: 28,635
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ODAAT View Post
So, I know your not a fan of proposing things, if you were however a betting man, what do you believe Feaster would ask for Iggy from Chia, and what would you say Chia is willing to part with?
Too much. The rumor from the article Randy quoted was a 1st, roster player, and prospect.

The roster player will no doubt not be a Chris Kelly or Rich Peverley type. Maybe they like Spooner enough that he fills this qualification, maybe not. The prospect will most likely be whatever prospect Calgary considers Bostons #1 (Subban likely). And the 1st likely won't have any conditions on it.

Wouldn't be surprised to see them ask for even more, a 2nd or some other prospect like a Knight, Krug, Bartkowski, etc etc...

I have no doubt Feaster is asking for the moon in regards to Iginla and the thought of paying up scares me just a lil. He strikes me as the type who would sooner have the option of telling the fans and ownership group that Iginla leaving was of his own designs in FA then he would lose on a trade so that made a lot of sense when I read it.

Kaoz* is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 07:25 AM
  #1023
ODAAT
Registered User
 
ODAAT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Halifax
Country: Canada
Posts: 31,258
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruzicka38 View Post
Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't want Iginla. There are two reason: the first is that I don't want to give up Spooner and the second is that the Bruins are not going to win the cup this year.
Look at their defensive depth. Look at their play in pressure situations (3rd periods). Look at Rask in the post-season (this will get the LF to lynch me). Look at their abysmal scoring. Iginla is not enough to fix ALL of these. Iginla is his prime probably would not have been enough to make this team a champion. They need a minor shakeup in the off-season and they need to fix the holes I mentioned above.

/rant
I`d be shocked if Chia moved Spooner, many here say they don`t care, but I can see it now, next year or shortly after, Spoons putting up pt after pt and Iggy can`t keep up with the play and those same fans who were "all on board" now, will have long abandoned Chia`s train

ODAAT is online now  
Old
03-25-2013, 07:27 AM
  #1024
ODAAT
Registered User
 
ODAAT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Halifax
Country: Canada
Posts: 31,258
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaoz View Post
Too much. The rumor from the article Randy quoted was a 1st, roster player, and prospect.

The roster player will no doubt not be a Chris Kelly or Rich Peverley type. Maybe they like Spooner enough that he fills this qualification, maybe not. The prospect will most likely be whatever prospect Calgary considers Bostons #1 (Subban likely). And the 1st likely won't have any conditions on it.

Wouldn't be surprised to see them ask for even more, a 2nd or some other prospect like a Knight, Krug, Bartkowski, etc etc...

I have no doubt Feaster is asking for the moon in regards to Iginla and the thought of paying up scares me just a lil.
With you there, I`m an admitted conservative Web GM

I cringe at the thought of pure rentals for high prices. Long proven that the "big splash" guys guarantee no more than making the smart moves for half the price

ODAAT is online now  
Old
03-25-2013, 07:27 AM
  #1025
4ORRBRUIN
Registered User
 
4ORRBRUIN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: boston
Country: United States
Posts: 3,611
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ranold26 View Post
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...ticle10275932/

Get ready for the rumors to fly off the handle
Do you think Chia drove up the price on the Pens ? Seems like they paid a high premium for Morrow.

4ORRBRUIN is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:00 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2015 All Rights Reserved.