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03-25-2013, 11:47 AM
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A Myers thread turning into a discussion of Stastny's value?

Color me surprised.

I'd imagine that Buffalo would want multiple cost-controlled assets back for Myers. For a team that already has Leino and Vanek, it might be difficult to take on Stastny's contract and fill the other holes in the line-up.

Most Flyers fans will hate my Couturier + Mezsaros for Myers + forward prospect proposal, but I think it makes a lot of sense for both organizations. Mezsaros is under contract one more year at a reasonable price, and could be paired effectively with Sekera. Couturier gives the Sabres a bona fide blue-chip piece to add to their line-up now and going forward, freeing guys like Hodgson and Grigorenko to play a more offensive role.


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03-25-2013, 11:52 AM
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A Myers thread turning into a discussion of Stastny's value?

Color me surprised.

I'd imagine that Buffalo would want multiple cost-controlled assets back for Myers. For a team that already has Leino and Vanek, it might be difficult to take on Stastny's contract and fill the other holes in the line-up.

Most Flyers fans will hate my Couturier + Mezsaros for Myers + forward prospect proposal, but I think it makes a lot of sense for both organizations. Mezsaros is under contract one more year at a reasonable price, and could be paired effectively with Sekera. Couturier gives the Sabres a bona fide blue-chip piece to add to their line-up now and going forward, freeign guys like Hodgson and Grigorenko to play a more offensive role.
Maybe in the offseason after they know where they're drafting.

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03-25-2013, 11:53 AM
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Wait till everyone gets out of work later, and this thread really takes off....What will Myers' value be then ?

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03-25-2013, 11:56 AM
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Maybe in the offseason after they know where they're drafting.
Meaning that this isn't a deal that the Flyers do if they have the 1st overall (and pick Seth Jones)? I'd buy that.

But if they are anything other than #1, I think this is a deal worth doing. Obviously MacKinnon and Drouin are potential game-breaks down the middle, but even if the Flyers end up 4-7 or so, there's a decent chance that they end up with a two-way center (Barkov, Monahan, Lindholm, etc.), and, of course, they already have Laughton.


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03-25-2013, 12:00 PM
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Steve Mason. Won the calder the year before Myers, lots of potential. #1 goalie for #1 D-man.

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03-25-2013, 12:01 PM
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Nope. Not even close. Only way Myers gets moved is if someone pays through the nose for his potential. We're not going to sell him at his lowest for pennies on the dollar. Kid has the ability to dominate games and still has plenty of development time left.
And it looks like he's on track to do the same thing this year as the last 2: start off a mess because he was injured/not in game shape, and end the season as our de facto #1D. Aside from one gross mistake yesterday, he's been

much, much better and steadily improving since Rolston took over.


This year he had an injury playing in Austria that affected his start in both conditioning and health. On top of that he had the pressure of his new contract kicking in this year where with salary plus sign on bonus put him around $10M.


If buffalo trades him it will be based on full potential--not bottom dollar prices.

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03-25-2013, 12:03 PM
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Worst possible time to trade Myers. At this point, you have to stick with him - he's definitely going to find his game again and improve. I'd like to see what he does next year with either a new coach or at least a full year of Rolston. I think a lot of his trouble stems from poor off-season conditioning.

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03-25-2013, 12:04 PM
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A writer in Edmonton hears from a former coach who shall remain nameless that the Sabres might be listening to offers and that means he's on the trading block?

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03-25-2013, 12:06 PM
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sabres fans u want picks prospects or roster players ?

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03-25-2013, 12:08 PM
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MIN: Scandella + Phillips + Hackett/Kuemper/Gustafsson


Or

Scandella + Hackett/Kuemper/Gustaffson + 2013 1st


Overpaying, underpaying, what?

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03-25-2013, 12:09 PM
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What would Buffalo want for the guy? I understand anything less than an overpayment is unacceptable but what particular pieces would you be trying to acquire for him?

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03-25-2013, 12:11 PM
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A writer in Edmonton hears from a former coach who shall remain nameless that the Sabres might be listening to offers and that means he's on the trading block?
We've had speculation threads based on less,

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03-25-2013, 12:14 PM
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Phaneuf's regression basically correlates with him taking on greater defensive responsibilities with Regehr. Slot him back to a risk-taking, vanilla-minute-eating, offensive-zone-starting #3, behind an elite goaltender/shutdown pairing and he probably looks a lot better.

Myers came into the league playing top competition, and has regressed in no small part due to the way the organization has fixated on bulking him up, regardless of the effects on his best asset, mobility. He also spent his second season playing about 30 games with a decent partner, playing with scrubs like Shaone Morrison and Chris Butler the other 80.

So yeah, the topical Myers/Phaneuf comparisons are there, but they really just don't have all that much in common when you get down to specifics.
True - but I'm not sure an organization would want to part with top prospects as well as take on that contract - all in hopes Myers recovers his form. To me that's where the similarity with Phaneuf comes in. It's just too much risk. To me the Sabres are likely better off just holding onto him.

If they part with him now they'd be selling low.

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A writer in Edmonton hears from a former coach who shall remain nameless that the Sabres might be listening to offers and that means he's on the trading block?
Nailed it.

I'm sure plenty of teams hope Buffalo shops Myers when his value is at an all time low. There's nothing there that says the team actually is considering it.

Bah.

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A Myers thread turning into a discussion of Stastny's value?

Color me surprised.

I'd imagine that Buffalo would want multiple cost-controlled assets back for Myers. For a team that already has Leino and Vanek, it might be difficult to take on Stastny's contract and fill the other holes in the line-up.

Most Flyers fans will hate my Couturier + Mezsaros for Myers + forward prospect proposal, but I think it makes a lot of sense for both organizations. Mezsaros is under contract one more year at a reasonable price, and could be paired effectively with Sekera. Couturier gives the Sabres a bona fide blue-chip piece to add to their line-up now and going forward, freeign guys like Hodgson and Grigorenko to play a more offensive role.
I do kind of hate it. Too early to give up on Couturier.

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03-25-2013, 12:20 PM
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Nailed it.

I'm sure plenty of teams hope Buffalo shops Myers when his value is at an all time low. There's nothing there that says the team actually is considering it.

Bah.
Yup. To paraphrase a poster on the Sabres board: Trading Myers now would be like selling your Apple shares in 1995.

Almost no d-men are finished products at the age of 23. Chara's resume at that age certainly wasn't as impressive as Myers'. The Sabres organization knows exactly what he's capable of; I doubt they're moving him, and if they do, it certainly won't be for the low-ball offers most people here are throwing around.

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03-25-2013, 12:22 PM
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Buffalo just gave myers a 10 million signing bonus.

Yes, I'm sure they are eager to trade a 23 year old, 6'8'' d-men who can skate like the wind whom they just paid 1/4 of his 7 year contract up front to for scraps.

Myers value to Buffalo is much greater than any team would be willing to pay at this point. This article is PURE speculation from the Edmonton beat writer.

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03-25-2013, 12:24 PM
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I do kind of hate it. Too early to give up on Couturier.
I don't see moving a 20 year-old Couturier for a 23 year-old Myers as "giving up" on him.

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This is the dumbest article I've ever read.

He's untouchable.

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I'd love him on the Leafs. That potential top pairing RHD for Dion.

Frattin, Percy, 1st?

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I'd imagine the Flyers would push hard. But I have a hard time imagining they would get him withough either B.Schenn or Couts involved.
I understand it would probably have to be Couts tho since we have Luke and Brayden. Like someone else mentioned they should wait until the offseason to see where/who they are drafting. If they end up with a top pick and Jones is available I'd draft him and keep Couts. If Jones is gone I'd be interested in taking one of the high potential centers and trade Couts+ for Myers or someone more proven.

If the Flyers end up with a not so great pick I probably do this in the offseason too.

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I'd love him on the Leafs. That potential top pairing RHD for Dion.

Frattin, Percy, 1st?
I'm sure Regier would be enthralled with the idea of trading him within the division.

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I'm sure Regier would be enthralled with the idea of trading him within the division.
It'd help you put up points.

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Yea, trade Myers while his value is at an all-time low .. to the Maple Leafs while you're at it

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Would Winnipeg do Byfuglien for Myers?

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