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03-25-2013, 02:41 PM
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Pittsburgh loading up on slow players = better matchup for the Bruins.

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The Pens are doing what they should do. They get some depth to surround their stars. Good for them.

Now get Iginla, one depth Dmen, the Yeti and let's enjoy a good Bruins-Pens ECF.
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IMO Morrow and Murray were not very good this year, IMO The pens get them by their reputation not by their actual*play. myabe they can turn their play around with the pens but I'm not sold on their move.
Many times, ordinarily average players are able to play above their levels when they join talent-laden clubs like the Pens. I really hope Chia doesn't make a short sighted deal. Iginla alone isn't the answer for us this year. We have too many holes to fill at this stage of the season.

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Despres, Pouliot, Maata, Harrington, Samuelsson, Bortuzzo, Doumoulin...

Pretty sure they are covered on the backend for as long as they want to be..
Meanwhile, how many "impactful" players do the Bruins have in the pipeline? Two? Three, max?

The way I see it, much of the Bruins "future" is already here. Seguin, Marchand, Hamilton, etc. are here, and they're not going anywhere. The Bruins have a good team, and the only team I see stopping them as currently constituted is Pittsburgh. Why not try and bolster this current group and make another run at a Cup? If that means sacrificing one of Spooner/KoKo/Knight/Subban, so be it. I'd much prefer a deep playoff run with Iginla than another first round exit without him.

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As a pens fan... i'd like to acknowledge that the majority of your posters are not idiots like ours. Outside of HF most people are happy with the signings, but HF is losing their minds...


The guys roommate? Pens mortgaging our future? He gave up a few picks, not even a first, and a 1 D prospect when we have 5 that are for the most part interchangeable depending on the day.

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03-25-2013, 02:43 PM
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Despres, Pouliot, Maata, Harrington, Samuelsson, Bortuzzo, Doumoulin...

Pretty sure they are covered on the backend for as long as they want to be..
Just because you have 'em doesn't mean you should give 'em up for aging players making 4.1 mill producing at a clip of .37 ppg. This isn't economics...an excess of supply on one team should not drop the asking price on one of your premier D prospects. Its basic asset management, and that must be something Shero forgot about.

EDIT: RE: "Not even giving up a 1st"....doesn't mean he didn't get incredibly ****** value.

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Pittsburgh loading up on slow players = better matchup for the Bruins.
I couldn't agree with this more. One think that startled me about the matchup with Pittsburgh recently was how freakin fast they looked. Morrow and his SOG (yeah change of scenery should be awesome for him, he was their captain, a lifelong Star, and they were in a playoff spot) and Murray and his cement Grafs should help even that off really nicely.

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Rolston was actually pretty good for us.
Rolston Phase I was great for us.

Rolston Phase II, um, I barely noticed he was here.

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Rolston Phase I was great for us.

Rolston Phase II, um, I barely noticed he was here.
Rolston phase II had 15 points in 21 games. You should pay attention more if you barely noticed him.

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I couldn't agree with this more. One think that startled me about the matchup with Pittsburgh recently was how freakin fast they looked. Morrow and his SOG (yeah change of scenery should be awesome for him, he was their captain, a lifelong Star, and they were in a playoff spot) and Murray and his cement Grafs should help even that off really nicely.
Well, they also added a whole bunch of sand paper too, that's for sure. How did essentially this group of B's (minus Pouliot + Pandolfo) fare against a similarly big and tough group (albeit incredibly less talented) in the playoffs last year?

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People also need to separate being a good deal for Boston vs being a good deal for Pittsburgh...Bruins need an influx of talent, Pens, character, they already have an abundance of talent.

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And let me state I'm not a typical HF nutjob that thinks youth is the end all be all. Morrow could have been used to get a better player than B.Morrow.

I am all for the B's trading assets like Spooner, Knight, Koko, Krug, picks etc away. As long as it is for a significant improvement.

I'd, for instance, do something around Spooner + a high pick for Tanguay. That is no problem to me, since Tanguay is still a productive player. The issue with the Pens trades is that the guys they acquired are NO LONGER PRODUCTIVE ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY their: A) Contracts and B) Cost controlled assets given up

EDIT: BTW, we should totally look at Tanguay...

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Well, they also added a whole bunch of sand paper too, that's for sure. How did essentially this group of B's (minus Pouliot + Pandolfo) fare against a similarly big and tough group (albeit incredibly less talented) in the playoffs last year?
Pandolfo was the only plus? As down as some people are on Nathan Horton, he's a pretty big plus.

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Rolston phase II had 15 points in 21 games. You should pay attention more if you barely noticed him.
C'mon. His playoff presence made no difference at all.

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I couldn't agree with this more. One think that startled me about the matchup with Pittsburgh recently was how freakin fast they looked. Morrow and his SOG (yeah change of scenery should be awesome for him, he was their captain, a lifelong Star, and they were in a playoff spot) and Murray and his cement Grafs should help even that off really nicely.
They still are way faster then Boston. Hopefully a Montreal or NYR can pick them off early...

You think Morrow is going to sulk? Players of his makeup don't do that.. He *could* be their Recchi.

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Rolston phase II had 15 points in 21 games. You should pay attention more if you barely noticed him.
Rolston was a solid bottom six forward. If he is in any kind of shape would love to have him back. Played decent on the Powerplay as well.

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Pandolfo was the only plus? As down as some people are on Nathan Horton, he's a pretty big plus.
Yeah, I'd say one of the top 3 contributors in our cup run would be nice to have in this years playoffs.

Need I remind people that y'all were saying the same thing the year we won the cup about Horton before the playoffs. "Blah blah blah no effort, lazy, sucks, WAIVE HIM, blah blah blah nonsense"

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Pandolfo was the only plus? As down as some people are on Nathan Horton, he's a pretty big plus.
Fair enough, but that doesn't answer my question. Also, not sure Horton is a plus in any way shape or form right now.

Pittsburgh is already immensely talented. They just added two gritty character types to their lineup without sacrificing anything from their current roster.

Do you really think this Bruins club even with a healthy Chris Kelly can compete with them in a 7 game series? I don't.

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They still are way faster then Boston. Hopefully a Montreal or NYR can pick them off early...

You think Morrow is going to sulk? Players of his makeup don't do that.. He *could* be their Recchi.
Did I say I think he'll sulk?

No, I said why are people expecting him to crank things up because he got moved to Pittsburgh?

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Fair enough, but that doesn't answer my question. Also, not sure Horton is a plus in any way shape or form right now.

Pittsburgh is already immensely talented. They just added two gritty character types to their lineup without sacrificing anything from their current roster.

Do you really think this Bruins club even with a healthy Chris Kelly can compete with them in a 7 game series? I don't.
Yes, I personally do.

I didn't think Washington could compete with the defending cup champs last year. I didn't think we would blow a 3-0 series lead to Philly. All it takes is a hot goalie, or one important player getting snakebit or hurt and then everything goes to ****.

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Well, they also added a whole bunch of sand paper too, that's for sure. How did essentially this group of B's (minus Pouliot + Pandolfo) fare against a similarly big and tough group (albeit incredibly less talented) in the playoffs last year?
Is this because last year had everything to do with matchups and nothing to do with fatigue from being defending Champs? This notion that something can be learned from last year's deadline is completely off the mark IMO. Defending champs don't repeat these days. Doesn't happen. The Cup run is too grueling, and losing in that series or the one after was a virtual certainty.

Further if your point was accurate, wouldn't they struggle against "sandpaper" teams this year? I'd argue the opposite is true. The Bruins lose to fast, skilled teams. Like Montreal and Pitt. Pitt adding grit is good for them, but it will not be an issue for Boston. Skill is an issue for Boston.

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Fair enough, but that doesn't answer my question. Also, not sure Horton is a plus in any way shape or form right now.

Pittsburgh is already immensely talented. They just added two gritty character types to their lineup without sacrificing anything from their current roster.

Do you really think this Bruins club even with a healthy Chris Kelly can compete with them in a 7 game series? I don't.
My god, yes, easily. We've already been toe to toe with them in two games under suboptimal conditions. Do I expect to bury them? No not at all, but compete with them? Nothing over the past 2-3 seasons has shown me otherwise.

People underrate the hell out of the level of talent here given that fact that having a Norris and Vezina contender is in fact a talent. Nevermind that when our top 6 are playing well they can hang with anyone.

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Did I say I think he'll sulk?

No, I said why are people expecting him to crank things up because he got moved to Pittsburgh?
My mistake, it sounded like it...

He will be playing with Neal and Malkin when he comes back, no? You think he might do a teeny bit better?

I'm glad that the Bruins didn't get either, but let's please not pretend the Penguins are a worse team now, or that they didn't improve...seems like that's what you are doing..

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Fair enough, but that doesn't answer my question. Also, not sure Horton is a plus in any way shape or form right now.

Pittsburgh is already immensely talented. They just added two gritty character types to their lineup without sacrificing anything from their current roster.

Do you really think this Bruins club even with a healthy Chris Kelly can compete with them in a 7 game series? I don't.
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Yes, I personally do.

I didn't think Washington could compete with the defending cup champs last year. I didn't think we would blow a 3-0 series lead to Philly. All it takes is a hot goalie, or one important player getting snakebit or hurt and then everything goes to ****.
I think you are both right. It's one of the reasons I'm personally not getting bent out of shape right now. The road to Cup seems to be a crapshoot of who stays healthy, has a hot goalie etc. Ateam just needs to get in and they have a shot.

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